# I just saw The Grudge. Good heavens. (Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 25, 2004, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963 "2004-10-25T00:32:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![papergirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aca169/32.png) [@papergirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/papergirl)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/1 "2004-10-25T00:32:50Z")
It seemed like a good idea. I love scary movies, especially atmospheric, low-gore, creepy movies. My sister does too, so we went together. All I can say is, it’s a damn good thing we saw it in broad daylight, else I might still be sitting in the lobby waiting for daybreak. It was \creepy\. I won’t post my few questions until I know some other folks have seen it. Right now I have to go remove all my closet doors, shut all my cats outside, and send my four-year-old son to live with my mother until he quits looking like that creepy little cat boy in the movie. I guess I’d better pull out the bathtub, too, and eliminate all attic access in my house. That oughta help. Anyone else seen this yet? Whadja think? ---
**Author:** ![Heart\_On\_My\_Sleeve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/77aa72/32.png) [@Heart\_On\_My\_Sleeve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heart_On_My_Sleeve)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/2 "2004-10-25T01:29:46Z")
Just got back from seeing it. I liked that there were plenty of “jump and scream” moments. I had to go to the bathroom (didn’t want to), but as I was leaving the I need to learn how to do spoiler box, but highlight white area to reveal: croaking noise started and I practically RAN out of the theater. I felt like an idiot because there were people right outside. I have to let it sink in though, but ask questions! ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/3 "2004-10-25T04:00:34Z")
I haven’t seen _The Grudge_ yet (hopefully Tuesday when I get paid!) but I did see the original, _Ju-on_ a couple weeks ago…and I thought _that_ was the creepiest ghost movie I had ever seen. Now, since I’ve seen _The Ring_ and _Ringu_ and thought that the remake was far superior in just about every way, I have high hopes that _The Grudge_ will not disappoint either. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/4 "2004-10-25T04:13:57Z")
I saw the theatrical version of _Ju-On_ before seeing The Grudge … and Ju-On was scarier, in my opinion. _The Grudge_ was just too similar to the plot for me to be much surprised. I was expecting more changes, like there were from _Ringu_ to _The Ring_. It was still pretty scary, but nowhere near as scary as it could have been. The first part was really scary – especially the first scene – but the surprises went downhill from there on. And the ending, I thought, was much better in _Ju-On_. Oh well. I ordered DVDs of the TV-movie versions of _Ju-On_ and _Ju-On 2_ – the way I understand it, the TV movie versions are often called Ju-On: The Curse and the theatrical versions are often called Ju-On: The Grudge – and reviews lead me to believe that the TV versions are quite a bit scarier than the theatrical versions. I guess I’ll know soon enough… ---
**Author:** ![Israfel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/87869e/32.png) [@Israfel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Israfel)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/5 "2004-10-25T05:24:28Z")
I saw “The Grudge” a few days ago and absolutely loved it- such a shame that the reviews have been so mixed. I’ve also seen Ju-on, and while I enjoyed both, I generally prefer the American remake. ---
**Author:** ![Anastasaeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Anastasaeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anastasaeon)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/6 "2004-10-25T06:40:04Z")
This post has spoilers for both this movie and The Ring, so please skip it if you haven’t seen the movies yet and want to. I don’t know how to make that cool Spoiler box. * * * I saw The Grudge. It didn’t scare me _at all_, but it scared the bejiminies out of my husband. I liked it. I love creepy, low gore, horror movies, too, and I wanted a mystery. It was pretty easy, sure, but this movie is my kind of brain junk food 😃 I loved the Ring, too, but I almost didn’t - until the end. When I thought it was going to wrap up nicely and sweetly, I was about to get out of my seat and walk out, thinking “Ugh, pulease.” Then the little boy said the magic words: “You weren’t supposed to _help_ her!” YAY! Hubby told me later that he had wanted to hide his head on my shoulder. I asked him why he didn’t, and he told me “I was trying to be the man, waiting to comfort you when you got scared, but you _never_ did!” (said in a playground-style “NOT FAIR!” tone). Now everytime hubby hears a low clicking/burping sound (I burst out laughing because I thought that was a burp on the other end of the line - I honestly did) he leaps out of bed and turns on all the lights. He’s also keeping the cats out of the bedroom at night. My hero. ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/7 "2004-10-25T12:04:05Z")
> [@Anastasaeon](#): > > When I thought it was going to wrap up nicely and sweetly, I was about to get out of my seat and walk out, thinking “Ugh, pulease.” Then the little boy said the magic words… Same here! I got genuine chills from that moment in the film, and for that, I’ll always love _The Ring_. I even got chills from it a second time when I watched it on DVD! One of the best creepy moments in film and without any special effects or special makeup or anything…just a precocious child delivering a line in wide-eyed horror to the mystified heroine (and audience). ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/8 "2004-10-25T12:05:35Z")
P.S. "Don’t you understand…? _She never sleeps…!_ ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/9 "2004-10-25T13:10:32Z")
Saw the Grudge when it opened Fri. night here. The place was packed with screaming high-school aged kids which made it actually more enjoyable to watch. I loved it, I thought it was the best scary movie I can remember seeing. The lighting, effects and nuance in the ghostly shapes were perfect in their placement and actions. The teasers you see on commercials for the film are not even close to the best parts of the movie, like on other films trailors where they have to show the best scene because they only have a couple in the whole film. This film has lots of scary moments and eerie elements to it. ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/10 "2004-10-25T13:13:37Z")
PS, the Ring 2 will be coming out next spring, Yay!!. Shouldn’t have helped her. I wished Naomi Watts was in the Grudge. She has much a much better ‘scared’ face than Sarah Gellar. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/11 "2004-10-25T15:18:41Z")
Yep, this really scared the bejeebies out of me. It’s not a complex story or anything deep, but it’s full of enough “scare the crap out of you” moments that it was worth the price of admission. Normally I’d love a wet Japanese woman in my bed…maybe not now. When I got home around midnight and took my dog out for her last walkie of the night, a cat started meowing from the woods we walk along. We made that a very short constitutional. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/12 "2004-10-25T15:56:59Z")
I didn’t like _The Ring_ at all, but I’ve been told that _Ringu_ is scare-the-pants-off-you fantastic. Since _The Grudge_ had retained the original Japanese director, I was hoping it’d be pretty good. I _love_ horror movies. Most of them don’t scare me, though. Sometimes I jump, but it’s not terribly scary. I spent at least three-quarters of _The Grudge_ using the Manual Eye Filter, scrunched down in my seat. My best friend, as rabid a horror fan as I am, had her fingers in her mouth and kept repeating “No, no, no, no, no!” softly to herself. It was daytime when we went into the theater, but dark when we came out, and we all but _ran_ to the car. (Two chubby girls who don’t run very often–this was highly unusual.) Then we had to go home to my apartment–where my black, yellow-eyed cat was waiting for us. And the little Asian kid who lives downstairs. Scary, scary, scary. I _loved_ it. ---
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/13 "2004-10-25T16:31:44Z")
Me, to kung fu wifey: “Small children are really scary. Let’s not have any. _Especially_ not Japanese ones.” ---
**Author:** ![papergirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aca169/32.png) [@papergirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/papergirl)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/14 "2004-10-25T18:04:54Z")
I warned you about those spoilers, now… One question: When SMG went into the Room of Doom, after having witnessed the professor fleeing the house, what did she see that was making that incredibly loud, rhythmic pounding noise? My sister thought the father had hung himself (or his wife) and it was the body swinging against the wall, but I’m not sure–it seemed too loud and continual for that. Did anyone see something I missed? And why the hell did They take Yoko’s jaw? Was that significant on some level I missed? And where can I get a copy of Ju-on? I gotta get that… (Okay, more than one question, but I got carried away.) ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/15 "2004-10-25T18:25:32Z")
It did really well at the box office this past weekend. In fact so well, they’re writing a sequal as we speak. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/16 "2004-10-25T18:28:21Z")
Bah, _sequel_. ---
**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/17 "2004-10-25T18:31:18Z")
I probably won’t be able to see it until it comes out to rent. So what’s the deal with the cats? Is it because of the meowing sound the little boy makes in the trailer, \* (That’s creepy enough ),\* or something else? ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/18 "2004-10-25T19:21:39Z")
> [@hillbilly queen](#): > > So what’s the deal with the cats? Is it because of the meowing sound the little boy makes in the trailer, \* (That’s creepy enough ),\* or something else? There’s only one cat, and I’m not entirely sure what the deal is, but I happen to own a cat that looks exactly like it, and the poor thing is wondering why I’m scared of him this week. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Israfel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/87869e/32.png) [@Israfel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Israfel)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/19 "2004-10-25T19:33:43Z")
Answers to spoilers, so…more spoilers ahead: > [@bodypoet](#): > > I warned you about those spoilers, now… > One question: When SMG went into the Room of Doom, after having witnessed the professor fleeing the house, what did she see that was making that incredibly loud, rhythmic pounding noise? My sister thought the father had hung himself (or his wife) and it was the body swinging against the wall, but I’m not sure–it seemed too loud and continual for that. Did anyone see something I missed? Pretty sure it’s the father. As far as why it was so loud and continual- most likely just to make it creepier. Unless I’m misremembering things, this scene was added in the remake. > [@](#): > > And why the hell did They take Yoko’s jaw? Was that significant on some level I missed? I don’t think there’s any significance- just a reason to show some freaky imagery. The jaw stuff is new to the remake as well. > [@](#): > > And where can I get a copy of Ju-on? I gotta get that… It had a limited theater release recently, and it’s being released on DVD in November. Alot of the people who have already seen it were watching bootlegged copies. ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963/20 "2004-10-25T20:16:36Z")
Anybody interested in the movie and even those that already saw it you can all go here and interact with the houise that the movie took place in. Don’t go upstairs!! [http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/thegrudge/](http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/thegrudge/) Click on “Enter Site” then type in your name. Pretty cool, even a little scary. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-saw-the-grudge-good-heavens-spoilers/270963.md?page=2)