# I knew Jack Chick was stupid...but not THIS stupid!

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**Created:** [March 12, 2001, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703 "2001-03-12T21:29:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2001, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/21 "2001-03-13T16:00:42Z")

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_choking helplessly on coffee_

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2001, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/22 "2001-03-13T16:41:55Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \*  
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> Sam Gipp , a former Pastor, is an Evangelist, teacher, author and Bible Conference speaker. He has the unique ability to digest large amounts of information \*\*

That means he’s the only person in Jack Chick’s band of Merry Men who can read at an eighth grade level.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2001, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/23 "2001-03-13T17:15:07Z")

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Totally non-PC, but cluing one in as to how far back one particular insult for gay people goes (and perhaps the origin of it) was the quote made in 1603 after James succeeded his “heart-of-a-king” mother’s cousin on the throne of England:

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> Elizabeth was our king, and now James is our queen!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2001, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/24 "2001-03-13T17:16:11Z")

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You could also argue for Queen Victoria, as was said, George V for helping the country through the first World War, George VI for helping the country through the 2nd World War, um…let’s see…hmmm.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2001, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/25 "2001-03-13T17:25:53Z")

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I think it’s wrong to consider Jack Chick as stupid.  
I think he knows exactly what his target market is looking for, and I think he very calculatedly gives it to them, furthering his own ends in the process.

That doesn’t make him stupid.

That would be forgivable.

He’s something much worse than stupid.

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**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/26 "2001-03-14T09:09:55Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \*  
\*\*[sub]sulking because Andros beat her to it[/sub]  
Oh, well.

[http://www.chick.com/information/authors/gipp.asp](http://www.chick.com/information/authors/gipp.asp)

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> Sam Gipp , a former Pastor, is an Evangelist, teacher, author and Bible Conference speaker. He has the unique ability to digest large amounts of information \*\*

Which he then proceeds to turn into shit. 😃

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/27 "2001-03-14T17:51:33Z")

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**Steve** , thank you very much. It’s good to knwo that even in the midst of toasting a waste of perfectly good bilirubin like Brother Chick, we can still manage to eradicate some ignorance. Honestly, I never knew Richard was homosexual. Kinda puts Robin Hood in a different light, eh? 😉  
No one’s mentioned William I. Or is he not considered a great monarch?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/28 "2001-03-14T18:26:06Z")

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Well, thanks to Yahoo, I was able to find a collection of Dr. Gipp’s writings at his home page here:  
[http://www.biblebelievers.com/GippPage1.html](http://www.biblebelievers.com/GippPage1.html)

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/29 "2001-03-14T18:32:46Z")

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William I? The Conqueror himself? Class act… I’d put him in at No. 4, after Elizabeth I, Victoria, and Henry VIII. Of course, all this is pretty much subjective…

…but I’ll run a bit further, anyway. Always heard good things about Edward III. Henry II, lots of good points, got to be in the top ten somewhere. Henry VII, absolute scumbag, but a highly successful scumbag nonetheless. George III, generally positive, apart from going barmy and letting some colonial tax evaders and left-wing troublemakers get out of hand in, ohhh, about 1776. Charles II, did a good job of the Restoration. Henry I, good organizer, at least…

Doesn’t leave room in the top ten for James I. (Or Richard I either, who would probably make most people’s lists - personally, I think he’s over-rated…) So, to drag this somewhere within a hundred miles of the OP: no, in this Briton’s opinion, James I is not in the running for “one of England’s greatest monarchs”. Doesn’t even make it to the finals. No disrespect to him, he was better than a lot of the others, but… no. I’m afraid I think Jack and his mates are no better on history than they are on theology.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/30 "2001-03-14T18:46:02Z")

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> **King James I of England, who authorized the translation of the now famous King James Bible, was considered by many to be one of the greatest, if not the greatest, monarchs that England has ever seen.**

Not to quibble, and it’s not like us Yanks have been, or are, led by Solons, but isn’t that damning with faint praise?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/31 "2001-03-14T19:30:55Z")

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What about Edward I? Conquered Wales, almost conquered Scotland, managed to restore peace to the realm…I’d put him pretty high up there.

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**Author:** ![Kyberneticist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kyberneticist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyberneticist)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/32 "2001-03-14T19:35:54Z")

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Thought these links might be appropriate to the thread.  
[http://www.queenjanesversion.com/](http://www.queenjanesversion.com/)  
[http://www.queenjanesversion.com/preface.htm](http://www.queenjanesversion.com/preface.htm) (Covers history of King James as discussed in this thread in a more insulting fashion)

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/33 "2001-03-14T20:18:01Z")

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Oh good GOD! Now Chick is claiming that the Vatican was behind WWI, because Kaiser Wilhelm was a “good Roman Catholic…” the FUCK?

He was NOT! He was LUTHERAN!! Good god almighty! Chick is so fucking stupid! _weeping_

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**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/34 "2001-03-14T20:52:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Polycarp \*  
> Totally non-PC, but cluing one in as to how far back one particular insult for gay people goes (and perhaps the origin of it) was the quote made in 1603 after James succeeded his “heart-of-a-king” mother’s cousin on the throne of England:
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> > Elizabeth was our king, and now James is our queen!

Well, remember that (possibly bi-sexual, possibly homosexual) Gaius Julius Caesar was dogged by his enemies as “every queen’s king and every king’s queen!”

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/35 "2001-03-14T21:47:48Z")

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'Shame Charles I couldn’t make the list, but he had a habit of losing his head when the going got tough.  
sorry. Don’t know what came over me.

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2001, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-knew-jack-chick-was-stupid-but-not-this-stupid/57703/36 "2001-03-22T02:41:50Z")

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Who wants to be the first to ask Cecil, “Was King James I gay?”

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