# I know the JFK assassination conspiracy theories have been beaten to death but... **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 13, 2003, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016 "2003-11-13T13:21:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/81 "2003-11-20T06:17:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Carnac the Magnificent! \* > \*\ ***Minty,** two questions: > 2) In “The Men Who Killed Kennedy,” one of the experts claims that he super-enhanced some photograph to clearly show a hidden sniper. Your thoughts on his claim, please. \*\* “Super-enhancing” any photo is just going to blow up into a grainy mess that can be interpeted as anything you want. I have yet to see any such photo that “clearly show a hidden sniper”. Such things are often worse than seeing faces in clouds. Buffs have been [blowing up photos](http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/experts.htm) for some time and seeing what they want to see, but not what is actually there. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/82 "2003-11-20T08:12:34Z")
Some of those “buffs” work for the FBI and use a digital enhancement technique for investigative purposes. I saw and interview with Oswald’s brother this morning. He said that Oswald did it for the attention. So…why did Oswald deny doing it? I wasn’t impressed. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/83 "2003-11-20T08:45:45Z")
Thanks for the heads up, Tom. I will be particularly interested in what the Jennings program may have to say. > [@](#): > > **Minty Green** Cite, please? Much of the information that I have shared with you is from the multi-hour series _The Men Who Killed Kennedy_. I believe that it was shown on _Bravo_. Each year they seem to add information as more is released to the public. I’ve watched, I think, about nine hours of it this week. As I mentioned before, it also comes from a forty year interest in the subject as I have watched it unfold before me. Although I neither believe nor disbelieve the theories presented in Oliver Stone’s film _JFK_, the facts themselves are fascinating. Eye-witness confusion under the stress of the moment is a little different than a doctor’s observations about entrance and exit wounds. And it is also different than misremembering that someone took your film or your camera while holding you at gunpoint or identifying themselves as with the government. I doubt that an unreliable doctor would have been allowed anywhere near the President of the United States. There can be an excuse to explain every little inconsistency. But when there are a thousand inconsistencies – nothing explains that. > [@](#): > > What makes you think it’s info about Oswald? I know the National Archives and the Kennedy family are keeping materials about JFK secret, but that’s understandable in trying to protect his privacy and his public image. I _don’t_ think it is about Oswald. That’s my point. I think there is much we don’t know that has nothing to do with Oswald. And I believe that you are mistaken if you think that the Kennedy family is the only one who has sealed the records. That’s not what we were told in the 1960’s. I think that his privacy and his public image have been fairly thoroughly explored and exposed compared to what it was forty years ago. I guess there could be more revelations. But at the time of his death, we didn’t know that he didn’t have the perfect marriage, that he cheated on Jackie, that he had any ties to the Mafia or that he was in constant pain which required a great deal of physician perscribed medication. We did know that he had a bad back. Friday and Sunday nights – depending on which network you listen to – tapes that were made by Robert Kennedy are going to be played for the first time. They were made shortly after the assassination for the purpose of enlightening the public on some issues at some point in the future. According to the _Today_ show, they have been in the possession of Ethel Kennedy who has decided that this would be an appropriate time to release them. I don’t expect any major revelations that haven’t already been discovered. But I think we would have been surprised back then. But who knows? These autopsy photos of Kennedy show his face intact and clearly identifiable. Warning, these are very graphic: The original autopsy photos are in the movie JFK. They have also been shown two or three times this week on television. Since you live in Dallas, I would think that you would be familiar with both the photos and the film. If the photo that you have is of JFK, it is of the right back quarter of his head. I find the “information” that you are providing to be disingenuous and encourage anyone seriously interested in exploring the truth – one way or another – to read for themselves from other sources. **Mr. Miskatonic** : I did not find this woman believable either in previous years and I don’t even remember if she was included in this years screening of the series. She was not one that I was referring to. Thanks! > [@](#): > > **Flash-57** : Generally, that’s a laudable idea, but many times, a discussion will get to a point where it’s obvious that no amount of additional discussion will change anyone’s mind. That may be true now, but there was a time when pretty much all of us bought the Warren Report hook, line and sinker. When someone presents misinformation such as bogus autopsy photographs, it is important to show the real thing. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/84 "2003-11-20T08:48:02Z")
Sorry, the links didn’t take. I hope these do. If not, I will post them manually: (Again, a warning. Very graphic:) [http://www.jfklancer.com/pub/md/jfk03clr.JPG](http://www.jfklancer.com/pub/md/jfk03clr.JPG) [http://www.jfklancer.com/aphotos.html](http://www.jfklancer.com/aphotos.html) ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/85 "2003-11-20T08:49:17Z")
Dman. No smiley intended at all. ---
**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/86 "2003-11-20T10:39:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by hansel \* > \*\*What possible agenda could they have? > > There’s another explanation: those arguing so vehemently that LHO acted alone are simply tired of the conspiracy theorists and their bullshit questions. Yes, there are unresolved questions; there are also questions that seem unresolved to some only because _they_ have an agenda. > > When the truth seems obvious to you, and someone’s dragging out the same, tired arguments for the 100th time, that you know to be bogus, how patient are you? \*\* On the “History Channel” all week they have showing the Kennedy shooting. It is well documented with plenty of new evidence and new scientific studies. If you miss it you can buy the tapes from [thehistorychannel.com](http://thehistorychannel.com). I believe this presentation is the most accurate I have seen. I was listening to the radio at the time it happened and heard the interviews. I will never believe the Warren report, it made no sense to me. I believe it was ordered by LBJ. Incidentally, for skeptics most are very gullible. Love ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/87 "2003-11-20T13:04:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Carnac the Magnificent! \* > > 1. Sorry to be macabre, but can you provide some orientation to that ghastly photo of JFK that you linked above? Is that a picture of the top of his head, his face, what? It’s the right side of his forehead. I believe that’s his right eyebrow at the bottom center of the picture, trailing off to the left/ > [@](#): > > 1. In “The Men Who Killed Kennedy,” one of the experts claims that he super-enhanced some photograph to clearly show a hidden sniper. Your thoughts on his claim, please. Tea leaves, clouds, and wishful thinking. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/88 "2003-11-20T13:33:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zoe \* > Much of the information that I have shared with you is from the multi-hour series _The Men Who Killed Kennedy_. [Not really your best source](http://www.jfk-online.com/tmwkk.html). Incidentally, I think I found the other person who claims to have had his film confiscated. Somebody above already debunked Beverly Oliver’s story. It should come as no surprise that the guy interviewed on THWKK, [Gordon Arnold](http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/arnold1.htm), is also a faker. > [@](#): > > These autopsy photos of Kennedy show his face intact and clearly identifiable. As is to be expected, given that he wasn’t shot through the face. And that first photo you link to shows the head wound fairly clearly, even under the mass of bloody hair. (It’s the star-shaped pattern, near where the scalp meets the forehead.) > [@](#): > > If the photo that you have is of JFK, it is of the right back quarter of his head. I assure you, this is not the case. Note in particular how the sharp edges of the wound in my photo correspond with the sharp edges of your photo. Still don’t believe me? Okay, let’s go with the photos off the other page you linked to (even though it’s a hideously misleading collection that focuses on the untouched left side of the head, photos with “scalp pulled to the left” to cover the large head wound, and photos that have nothing to do with the head wound.) [Here](http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/Autopsy_photos/autop04.JPEG) you can see the doctor holding up Kennedy’s head by sticking his thumb in the head wound. [Here](http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/Autopsy_photos/AP_XRAY.GIF) is an xray showing the wound to be exactly where I said it was. [And another here](http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/Autopsy_photos/X_AUT_2.JPG). > [@](#): > > I find the “information” that you are providing to be disingenuous and encourage anyone seriously interested in exploring the truth – one way or another – to read for themselves from other sources. And I find you to be in serious denial of reality and easily swayed by any damn fool thing some nut puts on television, no matter how incredible. But we really don’t need to go into name-calling, do we? Let’s stick with the evidence, please. ---
**Author:** ![GodlessSkeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@GodlessSkeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GodlessSkeptic)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/89 "2003-11-20T15:16:46Z")
_The Men Who Killed Kennedy_ (which originally premiered on _The History Channel_ ironically enough) was one of the most inaccurate, pandering pieces of misinformation I have ever seen. Did any of you guys catch that _Forensic Files_ thing last night?Amazing!They went through each of the major conspiracy theoriist arguments one by one investigating the claims with the latest technology and found and proved conclusively that: 1)The Single Bullet Theory IS consistent with the wounds sustained by Connelly and JFK. 2)There was no assassin behind the grassy knoll and even if there had been he would had a LOS that would have only enabled a shot to the right side of JFK’s head/face. There were of course no such entry wounds on JFK. 3)There were not four shots fired, only three and the tape that certain “investigators” claimed(from a mic in the motorcade cops) captured four shots not only contained NO gunfire but was actually from several minutes AFTER the assassination took place when they were securing the TBD. 4)The doctors who did the original examination on JFK had never dealt with such a thing before and had no clue about gun-shot wounds etc…This is where a lot of the conspiracy theorists get the fuel for their nonsense and explains why there was some initial confusion about entry wounds and such. Contrary to what ZOE asserted earlier, they did indeed have less than competent doctors working on the Pres. but this is really not THAT incredible considering the time(40 years ago) and circumstances(how often is a president gunned down up to that point anyway?). SUbsequent autoposies performed by competent M.E\>s would confirm the Warren commission’s findings. Remember if a show like the FOrensic files has ANY agenda it would be to make the conspiracy theorists happy since they make up the vast majority of Americans(especially people who get their JFK info from TV/movies) so why would they spend time, money “covering up” some dark conspiracy when this would run contrary to their agenda(which is ratings)? And to go to all that trouble of recreating the shots fired to demonstrate that the bullets from teh Manlicher Carcanno would behave just as they did according to the SBT? They could have just put out a poorly researched bunch of hooey that cost them next to nothing and their audience would have been happy so long as it alleged a massive cover-up. You guys really need to visit the McAdams site that Minty keeps linking to. You keep bringing up crap that is thoroughly refuted all in one convenient place for you and the details are all laid out so if you find something fishy you can easily counter it right? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/90 "2003-11-20T15:20:30Z")
Last night on (IIRC) TLC, they had another program on the assasination where they re-created the whole damned thing, with an army sharpshooter and the same rifle and everything. Outside of the crappy rifle jamming about 20% of the time, their shooter consistently nailed Oswald’s shots in the time allotted. I’d read about other re-creations, but it was pretty illuminating to actually see them done. They also timed the walk down to the TSBD’s lunchroom, destroying Stone’s notion that Oswald would have had to run down there, and timed Oswald’s walk to where a police officer was murdered later that day. ---
**Author:** ![GodlessSkeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@GodlessSkeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GodlessSkeptic)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/91 "2003-11-20T15:48:39Z")
Both JFK and Robert Kennedy were staunch anti-communists and it was continued pressure applied by the Kennedys that got us into Viet Nam. Kennedy often expressed that anyone not in support of the war in Viet Nam was not a patriot(remind you of anyone?). JFK ran as a conservative Democrat and said he had more in common, politically with Richard Nixon than anyone in his party. He was also no friend to the civil rights movement. You can read all about it at the McAdams site. ---
**Author:** ![mipsman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mipsman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mipsman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/92 "2003-11-21T02:14:42Z")
Minty, you are a real piece of work. The anonymity of the Internet has saved you a lot of orthodontia work, hasn’t it. Proof by obnoxious assertion. Are you by any chance a Fundamentalist? For every expert who says the fragments left in Connally were too little, there is one who says there is too much. One doctor says there were autopsy irregularities, another says it was standard. But YOU know the truth. You dismiss Marina Oswald’s comments right after the assassination and deMohrenshildt’s from much later comments (or is it the other way around?) I have no doubt that some people lied or were intimidated. But you believe what you want. (See, I do not care what you believe.) Jump up and down, scream, rant, rage that you know what happened and why won’t everybody believe you BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE PROOF AND THERE ARE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. Tell you what, PROVE that Oswald owned the Mannlicher, (not assert, not quote, prove) and we skeptics will have one less question. I am not sure if I have heard this before but since the “Magic Bullet” is so undeformed, has there been a ballistic match of it to the Mannlicher? Minty, from previous posts you seem to be an attorney. That comes as no surprise to me whatsoever. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/93 "2003-11-21T03:25:55Z")
Oh goodness, some random nut on the internet is making poorly-veiled allusions to knocking my teeth out. The horror! The horror! By the post, I’m guessing you’re declining, once again, to put the motherfucking evidence on the table? ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/94 "2003-11-21T03:34:08Z")
mipsman, we’ve named experts who say the fragments in Connally were small enough to have come from CE399. You say there are experts who say otherwise. Can you name one? What doctor says there were autopsy irregularities? And you keep saying there are “UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.” What are they? We’ve asked more than once. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/95 "2003-11-21T04:02:17Z")
Oh, and since you _did_ manage to ask two legitimate questions in that ignorant little post of yours: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mipsman \* > (Tell you what, PROVE that Oswald owned the Mannlicher, (not assert, not quote, prove) and we skeptics will have one less question. His palmprint was on the rifle barel. He purchased it using his known alias of A. Hidell and his personal P.O. box, rented under his own name. His handwriting was identified on the order coupon, the envelope, and the money order. His handwriting was identified on the post office box application and the change-of-address card forwarding his mail from New Orleans. The handgun he was carrying when arrested–the same gun he used to shoot Officer Tippett–was also purchased under the Hidell alias. He was photographed by Marina while holding the rifle. Marine confirmed she took the photographs, and that the rifle belonged to Lee. Marina confirmed that Lee kept it rolled up in a blanket in Ruth Paine’s garage. Ruth and Michael Paine both confirmed that the blanket bundle had been kept in Ruth’s garage. Police officers at Ruth Paine’s house discovered several hours after the assassination that the blanket bundle was empty. Fibers from Oswald’s shirt were found on the rifle. Happy? Whether you choose to accept those established facts is your own business. Of course, whether you choose to accept that the sky is blue is also your own business. But I wouldn’t go shouting all over the place that the sky is neon green, because you’ll look like an idiot doing it. > [@](#): > > I am not sure if I have heard this before but since the “Magic Bullet” is so undeformed, has there been a ballistic match of it to the Mannlicher? [Yes](http://www.archives.gov/research_room/jfk/warren_commission/warren_commission_report_chapter3.html#testimony). And the fact that you either didn’t know that basic fact, or couldn’t even be bothered to find out, does wonders for you gullibility. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/96 "2003-11-21T05:22:38Z")
**Minty** , why would you choose to show a post-autopsy photo of Kennedy’s face? As strange as it may seem, back in the dark ages of the early 1960’s, doctors could distinguish between entrance wounds and exit wounds. (It wasn’t just Presidents who got shot by rifles in Texas.) I am _not_ a conspiracy theorist. I don’t know who conspired to kill him or why. I have no trouble acknowledging that Oswald shot him. But he wasn’t the only one. I don’t even know if Oswald knew there would be anyone else. The two hour Peter Jennings program did not address any of the reservations that I have and underscored some of the objections to the lone gunman theory. I do find it interesting that they claimed that Johnson went to his grave believing that there was a conspiracy. (I don’t know that I agree that Johnson thought that.) As I said earlier, most of my information has come from a forty year interest. The particular cite that I gave for certain information was the documentary _The Men Who Killed Kennedy_. I have certainly not been limited by that program only, but it does present a variety of opinions and **many** interviews with those involved including the doctors. CurtC, I will see if I can find a link to what the doctors in Dallas had to say. > [@](#): > > **Godlessskeptic** : it was continued pressure applied by the Kennedys that got us into Viet Nam. _reliable_ and diversified cite? > [@](#): > > Kennedy often expressed that anyone not in support of the war in Viet Nam was not a patriot… I **never** heard JFK make any such claim and unlike our current President, he held frequent press conferences. Can you provide a sound clip or a _reliable_ cite for such an accusation? You are giving skeptics a bad name. I did hear RFK speak on Vietnam in person and he was certainly in support of total withdrawal. BTW, **Minty Green** , judging from an earlier comment you made, I take it that you never read McNamara’s more recent confessions that he lied about the war in Vietnam. > [@](#): > > **Minty** :But we really don’t need to go into name-calling, do we? Let’s stick with the evidence, please. I have not resorted to namecalling. Would you provide a evidence for that accusation, please? Namecalling is not permitted in Great Debates. Your posts continue to be disingenuous in their claims and this is another example. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/97 "2003-11-21T06:17:26Z")
**CurtC** , what I saw on television was a face to face interview with one of the doctors and a film of another doctor making the announcement to the press. However, for what it’s worth, here is a link to the _Warren Report’s_ testimonies from various doctors and nurses at Parkview in Dallas and from the doctors at Bethesda: [http://www.geocities.com/jfkinfo3/](http://www.geocities.com/jfkinfo3/) ---
**Author:** ![Doc\_Nickel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@Doc\_Nickel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doc_Nickel)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/98 "2003-11-21T06:34:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mipsman \* > **[…] BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE PROOF AND THERE ARE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.** -Of **course** there are unanswered questions. As I already pointed out, this is not an Agatha Christie novel or a Sherlock Holmes short story. There’s so-called evidence that’s purely irrelevant (like the three bums- whoa, homeless people near train tracks in a big city! Veeery suspicous!) claims that are wholly illogical (shooters firing from storm drains, an angle from which the shot would have been impossible) and reams of unsubstantiated, random and chaotic eyewitness reports from untrained observers looking the wrong way when it happened. Goddam straight there’s unanswered questions. There’s unanswered questions about September 11th, but does that mean four airplanes were NOT hijacked by Islamic fundamentalists? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/99 "2003-11-21T11:48:23Z")
Not to change the subject, but is the Zapruder film available online anyplace for viewing? The frame-by-frame breakdowns are interesting and informative, but I’d like to see it and hear it realtime if it’s possible. I think ordering it on DVD would be silly… ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-know-the-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-have-been-beaten-to-death-but/213016/100 "2003-11-21T11:53:50Z")
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