# I, Libertarian, never lie and I'm always right! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 26, 2001, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747 "2001-10-26T09:37:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/1 "2001-10-26T09:37:30Z")
I am **Libertarian** , and if I say that petty verbal disputes, extreme contempt for another’s views, specious straw man arguments, blatant evasionary tactics, and outright mockery of anyone who **DARES** to disagree with me is reasoned debate, then it’s **reasoned debate, dammit!** And if anyone should _dare_ to think differently, I’ll start a series of disingenuous rants against you in the Pit! For I am **Libertarian** , and I am incapable of anything BUT “reasoned debate”! So vote for me! ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/2 "2001-10-26T09:39:51Z")
I would just like to go on record that this trend of “calling someone out” by acting as a parody of that person is starting to get obnoxious. Especially when the OP is so short. C’mon, man, if Lib is so horrible, you should be able to dig up more material than that. I give it a 4.2, and that’s mostly because he didn’t screw up the coding. ---
**Author:** ![aegypt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@aegypt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aegypt)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/3 "2001-10-26T09:45:59Z")
Sometimes short is sweet. ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/4 "2001-10-26T10:02:36Z")
Sadly, also sometimes sweets are short. Give me long-lasting puddings, dammit! pan ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/5 "2001-10-26T10:12:31Z")
Tu quoque! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/6 "2001-10-26T10:18:01Z")
Et tu? ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/7 "2001-10-26T10:30:56Z")
Gesundheit. ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/8 "2001-10-26T11:03:30Z")
You don’t sound anything like him. Here, let me try: “I’ve read through your cites, yet remain unconvinced. What is more, your argument makes use of the logical fallacy known as [Libertarium Discordia](http://www.metzelfeste.de/ez/ez_pics/bart-s.gif). It is my worthless opinion that you should correct this error. I will then welcome your argument with open arms, embrace it, perchance even fondle it underneath the willow tree in my front yard.” BTW, If you are going to flame someone and believe you are in the right, I’d recommend providing links or quotes. In the absence of such support for your gripe, I’ll have to make an assessment using my own personal experience with the person in question, in which case I have to say I’ve found him to be an effective and reasonable debator. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/9 "2001-10-26T11:55:37Z")
And **Libertarian** let me be the Theta and the Nu. What Greek letters are _you_ offering, **ambushed**? ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/10 "2001-10-26T13:46:43Z")
Who wants Pi? [sub]ouch! who threw that?[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![tradesilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@tradesilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tradesilicon)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/11 "2001-10-26T14:45:20Z")
I disagree. ---
**Author:** ![DPWhite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d26b3c/32.png) [@DPWhite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPWhite)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/12 "2001-10-26T14:58:56Z")
Oh please. I’ve read your exchanges, and you seem to be getting off easy. He’s not that bad a guy and all you have to do to get him to stop using the straw man arguments is point them out (gently). ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/13 "2001-10-26T15:10:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cheesesteak \* > \*\*Who wants Pi? > > [sub]ouch! who threw that?[/sub] \*\* Pi r squared. “No way man, Pies are round!” [sub]Is there some sort of (super) code like the (sub) code?[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/14 "2001-10-26T15:24:09Z")
[sup]yes there is[/sup] ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/15 "2001-10-26T15:27:47Z")
[sym]p[/sym]r[sup]2[/sup] ‘sup’ and ‘sym’ ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/16 "2001-10-26T15:30:18Z")
> [@](#): > > Is there some sort of (super) code like the (sub) code? Yup. Use “SUP” in place of “SUB”. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/17 "2001-10-26T15:33:37Z")
“Lord, my load is heavy.” — Lily Tomlin ---
**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/18 "2001-10-26T22:36:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Who wants Pi? > > [sub]ouch! [/sub] I understood there would be Punch and Pi. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/19 "2001-10-26T22:47:25Z")
GODDAMMIT! MORE PEOPLE WILL COME IF THERES PUNCH AND PIE! whats the password? i don’t know! Bacon? close enough… Poo-head! ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747/20 "2001-10-26T23:06:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DPWhite \* > \*\*Oh please. I’ve read your exchanges, and you seem to be getting off easy. He’s not that bad a guy and all you have to do to get him to stop using the straw man arguments is point them out (gently). \*\* Okay, then, YOU try it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-libertarian-never-lie-and-im-always-right/89747.md?page=2)