# I lied. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 3, 2006, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lied/351027 "2006-04-03T04:58:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lied/351027/121 "2006-04-03T14:56:12Z")
I think Updike deserves the pile-on. But I don’t think we need to lower ourselves to anywhere near his level. He’s a sorry person. That’s all there is to it. We really can leave it at that, and simply never forget it. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lied/351027/122 "2006-04-03T15:03:10Z")
I was “on a break” this weekend and missed some interesting shit, looks like. Updike, I am probably not going to believe anything you ever say again (unless backed up by shitloads of verifiable cites). Better yet, I’m going to act as if you don’t exist. It’s OK to be wrong or mistaken, it’s OK to stick to a false idea and argue for it. But to pull a big ass lie out of your ass for no reason is a whole nother thing. You fucked up big time. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lied/351027/123 "2006-04-03T15:05:26Z")
I find it amusing that **Updike** ’s plans in this thread seemed to be to apologise to anyone and everyone for anything, whilst of course not really meaning it. _That_ plan didn’t last long. I too hope he’s allowed to stay. I don’t think there’s any rule against being a liar, even if he did choose to lie and gain advantage from a tragedy. Sure he’s a jerk, but plenty of people are jerks in the Pit (albeit not to this level of jerkishness). Of course, I suspect that if he is allowed to stay, and the mods present him with that option, he’ll throw a hissy fit and walk off on his own, in order to preserve his [del]dignity[/del] [del]honour[/del] ego. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lied/351027/124 "2006-04-03T15:11:16Z")
Who else expects **Updike** to come back as a guest under a new name and get banned before the day is out? ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lied/351027/125 "2006-04-03T15:14:20Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > I think Updike deserves the pile-on. But I don’t think we need to lower ourselves to anywhere near his level. He’s a sorry person. That’s all there is to it. > > We really can leave it at that, and simply never forget it. Only problem, **E-Sabbath** , after this vile display, I no longer consider him a person. Co-opting the tragedy that took place in New York for his personal gain is **beyond** reprehensible. > [@Colibri](#): > > The only thing you can do now is leave and not come back. There is no hope for you here. The sooner, the better. Go away. ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lied/351027/126 "2006-04-03T15:16:59Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > I think Updike deserves the pile-on. But I don’t think we need to lower ourselves to anywhere near his level. He’s a sorry person. That’s all there is to it. > > We really can leave it at that, and simply never forget it. Very nicely put. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lied/351027/127 "2006-04-03T15:17:52Z")
I don’t give a damn whether he stays or goes. To care either way, would give him more importance than he is worth. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lied/351027/128 "2006-04-03T15:23:06Z")
> [@davenportavenger](#): > > There are conservatives on this board who have supported him in the past, neither one of you, but others who are not making their presence known on this thread. Search for old threads where **Updike** is involved and you’ll see who I mean. Those are the people who would have supported him if his dead-parent scheme wound up working. But like I said, it’s a hunch, I can’t prove it. If your “hunch” is that people would have said, “You have to be lying, I don’t believe it”, well, you’re too late-even before **tomndebb** came up with proof several people, even well-known conservatives, called bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lied/351027/129 "2006-04-03T15:37:26Z")
You can’t ban **Updike**. If you ban him this thread is closed, and who will then become _Anti-Doper of the Year_ in the annual awards? ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lied/351027/130 "2006-04-03T15:38:14Z")
aye aye aye. oy vey. It’s passover, so i’ll try to keep things peaceful. Updike has asked forgiveness, and in this holy season, it’s kind of a loaded request, but I will give it to him. I forgive you updike, and hope you will respect this season of peace. happy passover. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lied/351027/131 "2006-04-03T15:39:56Z")
> [@TVeblen](#): > > Fair’s fair. **Updike** made his assertions very publicly so open reaction was invited. This thread stays open. > > And **Updike’s** posting privs are under discussion. > > Veb After a bit of discussion, we’ve decided that a banning is in order. IL’m closing this thread. Lynn For the Straight Dope [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lied/351027.md?page=6)