# I like Jewish girls

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 2, 2000, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569 "2000-04-02T23:09:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2000, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/21 "2000-04-03T01:50:00Z")

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> Originally posted by WallyM7:  
> \*\*I just saw Shayna’s pic.
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> I think I’m in love.\*\*

Just you keep in mind who’s got first dibs on the Naked Twister and the full contact origami with her, buster.

Me, that’s who.

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2000, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/22 "2000-04-03T02:02:00Z")

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I can dream, can’t I?

Or should that be in the musical questions thread?

Shayna, marry me. I’ll do the dishes, I’ll scrub the floors. I’ll shower you with cubic zirconias.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2000, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/23 "2000-04-03T02:12:00Z")

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**Shayna** wrote:

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> Spoke, if you want to know about conversion, Bricker’s the man to talk to - he knows more about Judaism than even I do!

With all due repect to Bricker, I was hoping you might agree to give me a little personal tutelage, Shayna. 😉

(By the way, is it now time to change the title of this thread to “Flirting III”?)

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**Author:** ![Doug\_Bowe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@Doug\_Bowe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_Bowe)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2000, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/24 "2000-04-03T04:26:00Z")

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> Originally posted by spoke-:  
> **OK, put me in the “Shayna is a hottie” camp, too. I’m not Jewish, but I am willing to learn! 😉**

–Does that include the cutting ceremony?

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2000, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/25 "2000-04-03T04:33:00Z")

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Yes, I must point out that even those already circumcised as infants would be required to undergo a ritual nick as part of the conversion process.

Not to put a damper on anything… just keeping the facts straight.

🙂

- Rick

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2000, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/26 "2000-04-03T05:57:00Z")

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_throwing his $.02 in_  
Just took a look at Shayna’s pic… Oy tate, s’iz git!!! 😉

I met a wonderful Jewish woman at college who didn’t return my interest. (Such is life.) She was a complete package - great personality, wonderful looks, and that glorious mane of red hair. For a while I thought it was because she was Jewish and hence a little more exotic than the other women I’d been dating, but after some thought I could point out women who had the same kind of personality and intelligence she did and were Protestant or atheist or whatever.

None of 'em had that red hair though… _sigh_

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All I wanna do is to thank you, even though I don’t know who you are…

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**Author:** ![Boris\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@Boris\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boris_B)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2000, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/27 "2000-04-03T06:07:00Z")

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I guess I can’t figure what people mean by “Jewish”. When I was growing up, I learned it was a religion, like Shintoism or Zoroastrianism or Christianity. Then, I met about a kazillion Jewish athiests and agnostics who assured me it was an ethnic group.

At some other point I learned that an ethnic group was a group of people with a set of things in common. It can include language, physical features, geographical area, religion, and some other things I’m forgetting. This conformed to personal observation: African-Americans have dark skin and curly black hair; Latinos have have darker skin than Europeans but not so dark as Africans; Northern Europeans have pale skin, high cheekbones, and a variety of hair colors. No part of the definition of “ethnic group” necessitates _everyone_ in the group to look typical. That’s why typical looks are called typical, they are of the type but not necessarily of everyone in the type.

So the next time someone with chocolate-brown skin, kinky hair, and a kora under one arm tells me he’s a full-blooded Swede directly descended from Gustavus Aldolphus, I’m going to be a teensy bit surprised. And in case you’re wondering, I wouldn’t comment on it; I almost never comment on anyone’s personal appearance because, as we have seen, a lot of those comments are going to come off sounding stupid and I never have any idea which one will.

I might make an exception if someone asked how they looked, but I can’t find Michelle’s picture at [Fathom.org](http://Fathom.org) and I don’t know what you mean by a TM site.

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**Author:** ![Major\_Feelgud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3be4f8/32.png) [@Major\_Feelgud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Major_Feelgud)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2000, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/28 "2000-04-03T06:15:00Z")

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Jewish people in the US come from all over the world and many look different. Originally Jews were Semites and look Middle Eastern. Many European Jews married “whites” in Europe and can even look Nordic with blonde hair and blue eyes. Nowadays, especially in the US, if you saw a person in a bathing suit, with hair tied up, etc., I don’t believe you can tell if a Jewish person is one or not.

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**Author:** ![Major\_Feelgud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3be4f8/32.png) [@Major\_Feelgud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Major_Feelgud)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2000, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/29 "2000-04-03T06:20:00Z")

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BTW, I seen Jewish girls with red hair. Being a Jew is a religion or a race or a nationality, all or none of the above. It’s whatever a Jew wants it to be. Some Danes are dark, some Irish are dark. It’s believed that the Welsh sprung from some possibily Semitic group so if you go to Wales, don’t be surprised to see short and dark Welsh amongst short and fair Welsh. Both Celts and Moors lived in Spain so you can see the typical Spanish as well as fair Spanish. Some Celts lived in Turkey so don’t be surprised to see blue eyed Turks. Austria is the gateway between the East and West so despite Halder, even native Austrians can be dark.

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**Author:** ![Boris\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@Boris\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boris_B)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2000, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/30 "2000-04-03T06:26:00Z")

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That last post wasn’t supposed snippy. Really. I just get frustrated by the seemingly endless variety of things that will offend or annoy people. And the fact that I never know what they are, since there is no obvious pattern.

Example: It is a major sin to ask someone how much money they earn, but when I got run over by a car a couple of years ago a lot of people wanted to know _exactly_ how much money I was getting in the settlement. My attempts to be vague and hem and haw were completely unsuccessful at stopping the interviews. No rhyme or reason. Sorry for getting off the topic.

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**Author:** ![Bucky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Bucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bucky)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2000, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/31 "2000-04-04T05:32:00Z")

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1. Shayna is a maidel hottie.

2. Yes, that’s at least one of “the looks,” but lots of shiksas have it, too.

3. Rick–Stripes. But I don’t think that’s the kind of training most of us want.

For the record, when I taught out East I had very long and curly black hair. Many many students thought that I was a Hassidic rabbi if they just went by “the look.”  
Oy, tell that one to Gramma Opal!

Reb Bucky

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2000, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/32 "2000-04-04T05:55:00Z")

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I’m not gonna get bent all out of shape about this either, but as Boris noted, Judaism is not a “race,” it’s a religion. When people say you “look Jewish,” what they mean is you look Eastern European.

Which I do—classic Fanny Brice; light skin, dark hair & eyes, big—I mean “aristocratic”!—nose.

Since I was born into a Jewish famuily but I’m an atheist, do I have that classic “atheist look?”

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2000, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/33 "2000-04-04T05:56:00Z")

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I’m not gonna get bent all out of shape about this either, but as Boris noted, Judaism is not a “race,” it’s a religion. When people say you “look Jewish,” what they mean is you look Eastern European.

Which I do—classic Fanny Brice; light skin, dark hair & eyes, big—I mean “aristocratic”!—nose.

Since I was born into a Jewish famuily but I’m an atheist, do I have that classic “atheist look?”

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**Author:** ![rackensack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@rackensack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rackensack)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2000, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/34 "2000-04-03T18:12:00Z")

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Bricker:

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> Yes, I must point out that even those already circumcised as infants would be required to undergo a ritual nick as part of the conversion process.

Actually, it’s more of a (you should pardon the expression) “prick”, at least in my case. Administered by an MD/mohel with a syringe.

As for a “look” particular to Jewish women, I must admit that while any generalization is odiously inaccurate concerning a majority of the individuals to whom it might be applied, my wife is definitely of a “type” that would probably be considered stereotypically Jewish, and it happens to be a type that I respond strongly to: dark, curly hair, dark eyes, slightly crooked nose, etc. I still don’t think I believe in love at first sight, but I must say she made a strong impression on me when we first met; I recall mentioning her to my sister and other people in casual conversation just afterward, even though at that point I had no idea that I’d ever see her again or that we would ever date, much less marry eventually. She is the only woman I ever actively pursued after being told that she wasn’t available (she had an “understanding”, though not a formal engagement, with another guy at the time).

Our kids, however, will apparently grow up to confound every stereotype of “Jewish” physical types. My son’s hair is dark blonde and his eyes are grey, while my daughter has new-penny copper-colored hair and dark brown eyes (I have brown hair with some red – it was about my daughter’s color until I was six or seven – and dark brown eyes). Facially, they both very strongly resemble my side of the family (my son is a dead-ringer for me at the same age, except for the hair and eye color), while my daughter looks a lot like my mom’s family, who’re mostly English and Scotch-Irish with a little Italian thrown in.

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“Ain’t no man can avoid being born average, but there ain’t no man got to be common.” _–Satchel Paige_

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**Author:** ![rackensack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@rackensack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rackensack)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2000, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/35 "2000-04-03T18:38:00Z")

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I just know that this is going to turn into a double-post, but the previous attempt doesn’t display from any of three different machines, so . . .

Bricker:

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> Yes, I must point out that even those already circumcised as infants would be required to undergo a ritual nick as part of the conversion process.

Actually, at least in my case, it was more of a (you should pardon the expression) “prick”, administered by an MD/mohel, with a syringe and needle (the better for collecting the “drop of blood” for _hatafat dam brit_ without undue trauma).

As for a “look” particular to Jewish women, I must admit that while any generalization is odiously inaccurate concerning a majority of the individuals to whom it might be applied, my wife is definitely of a “type” that would probably be considered stereotypically Jewish, and it happens to be a type that I respond strongly to: dark, curly hair, dark eyes, slightly crooked nose, etc. I still don’t think I believe in love at first sight, but I must say she made a strong impression on me when we first met; I recall mentioning her to my sister and other people in casual conversation just afterward, even though at that point I had no idea that I’d ever see her again or that we would ever date, much less marry eventually. She is the only woman I ever actively pursued after being told that she wasn’t available (she had an “understanding”, though not a formal engagement, with another guy at the time). Obviously, there are many qualities about her beyond her appearance that appeal to me, but it was definitely something that drew my attention in the first place.

Our kids, however, will apparently grow up to confound every stereotype of “Jewish” physical types. My son’s hair is dark blonde and his eyes are grey, while my daughter has new-penny copper-colored hair and dark brown eyes (I have brown hair with some red – it was about my daughter’s color until I was six or seven – and dark brown eyes). Facially, they both very strongly resemble my side of the family (my son is a dead-ringer for me at the same age, except for the hair and eye color), while my daughter looks a lot like my mom’s family, who’re mostly English and Scotch-Irish with a little Italian thrown in.

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“Ain’t no man can avoid being born average, but there ain’t no man got to be common.” _–Satchel Paige_

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2000, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/36 "2000-04-03T18:45:00Z")

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Trust the CGI. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2000, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/37 "2000-04-04T03:31:00Z")

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We now know Shayna is gorgeous.

Being half Japanese, Michelle probably does not have the typical Jewish “look”. But I think we settled the issue of her good looks last year when she was overwhelmingly voted a “hottie”.

[http://fathom.org/teemingmillions/profiles/michi4.gif](http://fathom.org/teemingmillions/profiles/michi4.gif)

As for Eve, I’ve seen her picture on the cover of one of her books, so I know she’s good looking.

So while they may not have a typical look, it certainly appears our Jewish Dopettes are all lovely.

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2000, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/38 "2000-04-04T04:18:00Z")

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Little Nemo said:

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> As for Eve, I’ve seen her picture on the cover of one of her books, so I know she’s good looking.

Sometimes, an understatement is a crime. You, Nemo, should be sentenced to 30 days in the electric chair.

Eve is _beautiful._

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**Author:** ![Jo3sh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a587f6/32.png) [@Jo3sh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jo3sh)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2000, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/39 "2000-04-04T04:50:00Z")

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> Originally posted by aha:  
> \*\*  
> Is it too late for me to convert???  
> \*\*

One word:  
Bris

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A committee is a lifeform with six or more legs and no brain.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2000, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-jewish-girls/15569/40 "2000-04-04T05:00:00Z")

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Okay, how’s this.

Eve’s a hottie. A looker. A cutie. A stone cold fox. The cat’s pajamas. She walks in beauty like the night. If Eve was president, she’d be Babe-raham Lincoln. She be fine. On a scale of one to ten, she’s a fifty eight and a half. Her eyes are like doves, her teeth is like a flock of sheep unshorn, her cheeks are like halves of pomengranate, and her neck is like the Tower of David.

I tell ya, it’s getting so you can’t even give a compliment around here without getting flamed.

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