Fury. I like this movie but a lot of people who I’ve discussed it with miss what I feel is the central point of the movie. They see it as a war movie and judge it by the standards of that genre.
But I feel the central point of the movie isn’t about war. It’s about not being at war (even though no scenes in the movie are set before or after the war). It’s about how being in a war has transformed the characters (although for most of the characters we aren’t shown the transformation itself - we only see the results of the transformation that occurred before the movie began).
There’s a new guy, Ellison, who joins the crew and we see him being transformed into an experienced soldier. The others in the crew accept this as normal. But seeing this transformation makes Wardaddy realize that all of the crew, including himself, have similarly been changed. And Wardaddy also realizes the war is approaching its end. And he begins to wonder what will happen to them when the war is over. How will they function as people who are adapted to living inside a war when there is no longer a war? Are they capable of changing back into people who can function in a peacetime world?
The issue is that certain fans will say that all they want are good stories…and then they will nitpick stories featuring --usually-- not white male heroes and tear them down. Sometime with very valid critiques.
But they will not apply their same very stringent criteria to other stories …ESPECIALLY with franchises they grew up with because they lack the emotional maturity to understand nostalgia.
There’s an instagrammer who has been posting clips of the original Star Wars movies critiquing them the way fans do modern Star Wars…its pretty great. Nostalgia is a helluvadrug.
The Last Jedi for me, as well. I thought that the overall plot wasn’t great, and there were certain elements (the entire subplot on the casino planet, for example) that were particularly bad.
The toxic fanboys just savaged that movie for a bunch of reasons, IMO, in addition to Luke’s portrayal. They had already been angered by the lead character in the previous movie (The Force Awakens) being a woman, and another main character being black…and then, in The Last Jedi, the filmmakers had the temerity to introduce another prominent female character – Rose – who wasn’t thin and gorgeous.
So, yeah, I really don’t like that movie, but I really don’t want to be lumped in with those guys.
I think this is a factor. A lot of these guys who complain movies aren’t as good as they were when they were twelve are refusing to consider the possibility that it’s not the movies that have changed. And even the ones who acknowledge that it’s their age and not the movies that have changed may be looking back at their childhood nostalgically. They may be comparing their adult life to how they now see their childhood rather than remembering how they felt at the time.
Not to get political but this is vey true of that type. At the recent RNC convention, attendees were asked “when was America great” and overwhelmingly the people interviewed–regardless of their age–named a time when they themselves were kids. So it might have been the 70s or the 50s or the 90s. It wasn’t that the country was better…its that they were kids and saw things as kids did.
I will still stand behind my opinion that the distaff Ghostbusters was no worse and maybe better than the sequel. Okay, that might be damning with faint praise, but it wasnt bad.
I can’t say Justice league was great- just entertaining and not that bad.
I didn’t like Brokeback Mountain when it came out. Didn’t want to voice it much to be grouped in with homophobes or anti-gays. I just found the relationship to be too forced or assumptive. Like just because these two guys happen to be the only gays out in Wyoming they must get together. It felt like a straight person wrote it.
It would be like having the only black guy in town as your friend and then one day a black girl starts working at your office and later you tell him “You have to meet this new girl, I just know the two of you will hit it off.”
I hope I’m not doing that, specifically being toxic, or wanting a male lead.
I liked the female Ghostbusters but it might be because I hadn’t seen most of the leads in anything until then. We weren’t watching SNL, so I didn’t know Kate M. I don’t like some of the humor of Melissa McCarthy movies and I know that’s me, not her, but I found her great in this. The one I didn’t like was Kristen Wiig. I don’t find her funny. Leslie Jones was great as well.
I didn’t like Jodie with three companions. Once they dropped the two men, sadly they picked up one, I thought Jodie and Yaz worked much better. Ryan and Graham could have switched lines most of the time and it wouldn’t be obvious. They had no personalities of their own. The Flux as an overall storyline was blah but some of the individual episodes were good. Really, what annoys me is Chibnell. I hate how they made the Doctor special. The Doctor felt like an everyperson who happens to be an alien. Nine calls himself a coward. They run a lot. Making The Doctor the foundling of Time Lord society still annoys tf out of me.
I already analyzed The Acolyte to death on that thread. My main gripe with it is I don’t know who the main character is, similar to The Phantom Menace. It’s just a bunch of things that happened, not a cohesive story.
I’m pretty sure I don’t do that. I hope. I did need a new perspective, especially on how women were written. I hope that I would see that contrast today and see how much better today’s movies are. I recently rewatched some 80s moves and found them lacking. Top Gun’s whole romantic sub plot made no sense and was only done to weaken Kelly McGillis’ character. In making Axle a smart cop who finds clues, Beverly Hills Cop makes me wonder how the other characters were detectives. I also don’t understand how anyone believe Axle’s BS when he talked his way into something. Even back then, I found the over the top violence of Arnold’s movies unrealistic but part of the charm.
I’m sorry if I’m coming off too defensive. It’s a bad habit of mine to want to defend myself or make myself understood. Again, getting a new perspective now that I’m older, it’s probably a trait that made people think I lie.
I definitely don’t think that. I hated high school and have no wish to relive that time. Being a nerd and pushed to the bottom of the social status wasn’t fun. Equally, being a incel, before that was a term, wasn’t fun. I much prefer most of the world today. Liking technology, I like the new computers. Medicine has saved my life a lot and while most of it existed back then, laparoscopic technology didn’t. I can talk to women and make friends with them.
I haven’t seen it but when your choice is one, wouldn’t you try and make it work? In this case, as far as either of them knew, weren’t they the only choices?
It’s not the same thing but as a gamer in Iowa, before the internet to help find a group, I had to take what I got. The only thing I learned is that no game is better than a bad game.
