# I like that the light is shining on the racists. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 17, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337 "2009-07-17T14:21:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/41 "2009-07-17T17:11:55Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > Sure. > > White people have dominated the power structure of the US since it’s inception, and that includes the Supreme Court. That domination was a result of a combination of being the majority (close to 90%, like Biggirl cited), and discrimination. Why weren’t there any white women on the Court? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/42 "2009-07-17T17:12:05Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > The Lord doesn’t take kindly to your type, **mags**. He dislikes racists. And since He’s to polite to tell you himself: Fuck you and the White Supremacist dildo you rode in on. Hey, nitwit. If I’m such a racist, my thinking must be really weak, right? So why don’t you try countering my initial post showing the weak-mindedness of your OP. You people are pathetic. :eek: What a racist remark!!! Unless, by “you people” I mean imbeciles who cry racism at every opportunity. Which I do. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/43 "2009-07-17T17:13:30Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Wow, threads about racism. I never get tired of them. I’m sorry the OP lured you in with promises of candy and hookers. Or hookers named Candy, or candy hookers… anyway considering the group of people who hang out here, I think the board’s surprisingly tolerant of racism. Everybody’s quick to condemn racist comments by Free Republic posters and public figures, but my experience is that mild to moderate racism - asking if black people are dumber than white people, for example, without using the word “nigger” - is more often met here by comments like “The science is inconclusive” than “That’s racist and stupid.” ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/44 "2009-07-17T17:27:09Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > You people are pathetic. > > :eek: What a racist remark!!! Unless, by “you people” I mean imbeciles who cry racism at every opportunity. Which I do. And you people are racist. You people deserve not one bit of consideration from me, only more of the same broad brush strokes you people give minorities. And by ‘you people’ I mean **magellan**. ---
**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/45 "2009-07-17T17:28:31Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > …asking if black people are dumber than white people, for example, without using the word “nigger” - is more often met here by comments like “The science is inconclusive” than “That’s racist and stupid.” But, but…the NBA. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/46 "2009-07-17T17:42:48Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > And you people are racist. You people deserve not one bit of consideration from me, only more of the same broad brush strokes you people give minorities. > > And by ‘you people’ I mean **magellan**. Then is should be soooooo easy to show holes in my analysis of your OP. But you haven’t done so. I guess, unsurprisingly, you’re not up to the task. You’d rather try to shout down dissent of your world view by both false and fallacious ad hominem attacks. It just keeps getting better and better. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/47 "2009-07-17T17:44:01Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Why weren’t there any white women on the Court? Could it be that until the early sixties most women were homemakers, and the raising of children and such meant many, many fewer women were getting the education and experience to make them merit consideration? For most our history it was taken as a given that a woman’s place is in the home. Why do you think it was? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/48 "2009-07-17T17:47:16Z")
Obviously, because most of the people in charge of picking the nominees were sexist. ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/49 "2009-07-17T17:47:37Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > Hey Buchanan, the problems began when we let the GD Irish into the country. Been downhill since that. 😉 Even better - the founding fathers were concerned about letting in ANY Catholics. Patrick Henry discussed perhaps letting them come and work the fields, rather than having all of these black slaves. It was a question of which would be a bigger issue over time - African slaves or or Papists ( as they were seen by the enlightened Protestants of the colonies). ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/50 "2009-07-17T17:48:26Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > For those of you who don’t know what I’m talking about, search out our friendly neighborhood racists posts in The Pit. I don’t have the stomach for it right now. Are you sure you haven’t confused **magellan** with someone else, like maybe **LonesomePolecat**? I’ve never noticed any racism in anything **magellan** has posted. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/51 "2009-07-17T17:49:35Z")
This racist SDMB poster doesn’t understand that spewing on about white people’s accomplishments to the exclusion of others comes off as racist. Who is magellan01? That is correct! ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/52 "2009-07-17T17:49:50Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Could it be that until the early sixties most women were homemakers, and the raising of children and such meant many, many fewer women were getting the education and experience to make them merit consideration? For most our history it was taken as a given that a woman’s place is in the home. > > Why do you think it was? But you’re making it sound like it just so happened that women were in the home. They were there because most men, and people, thought women had lesser minds and honestly couldn’t have handled being educated. That they were like children–not bad, but just not suited to the rigors of such things, had to be given limited rights/responsibilities. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/53 "2009-07-17T18:03:12Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > But you’re making it sound like it just so happened that women were in the home. They were there because most men, and people, thought women had lesser minds and honestly couldn’t have handled being educated. That they were like children–not bad, but just not suited to the rigors of such things, had to be given limited rights/responsibilities. I don’t disagree with this. I’d just add that a lot of women held those opinions, as well. Not that that matters much. I’m just not sure what point **Dio** was trying to raise. That our society looked at women very differently than men, (to the detriment of all, I’d add) is plain. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/54 "2009-07-17T18:04:55Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I don’t disagree with this. I’d just add that a lot of women held those opinions, as well. Not that that matters much. I’m just not sure what point **Dio** was trying to raise. That our society looked at women very differently than men, (to the detriment of all, I’d add) is plain. I think the difference is that your description makes it sound like things just happened to be differently whereas others might describe it as systematic oppression. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/55 "2009-07-17T18:13:40Z")
Everyone’s missing the most important aspect of the clip. At the beginning, when it shows a bit of Obama’s speech to (I think it was?) the NAACP, check out his skin tone. He’s obviously had it darkened for the occasion. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/56 "2009-07-17T18:14:19Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > This racist SDMB poster doesn’t understand that spewing on about white people’s accomplishments to the exclusion of others comes off as racist. It shouldn’t. Not when it is the answer to the question. Why is it that the first 43 Presidents were all white? Answer: it was basically a white country. For the vast majority of the time it was about 90% white. Pretty much every thing of note that happened to any person was happening to a white person. This is unsurprising since the largest group that was not white was subjugated—first held in slavery and then held down through laws and policies that made it impossible for any one of them to have achieved such a high office. How is that in any way racist? Please be specific. Or, you can further align with that nitwit OP and revert to the oh-so-dependable ad hominem. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/57 "2009-07-17T18:18:34Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > But you’re making it sound like it just so happened that women were in the home. They were there because most men, and people, thought women had lesser minds and honestly couldn’t have handled being educated. That they were like children–not bad, but just not suited to the rigors of such things, had to be given limited rights/responsibilities. It sounds like they would hope that that a wise white man with the richness of his experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a woman who hasn’t lived that life. Which is obviously crazy talk, and racist and sexist to boot. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/58 "2009-07-17T18:22:38Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > It shouldn’t. Not when it is the answer to the question. Why is it that the first 43 Presidents were all white? Answer: it was basically a white country. For the vast majority of the time it was about 90% white. Pretty much every thing of note that happened to any person was happening to a white person. This is unsurprising since the largest group that was not white was subjugated—first held in slavery and then held down through laws and policies that made it impossible for any one of them to have achieved such a high office. > > How is that in any way racist? Please be specific. > > Or, you can further align with that nitwit OP and revert to the oh-so-dependable ad hominem. I’m sorry, you forgot to phrase you bigoted spew in the form of a question. We cannot accept that. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/59 "2009-07-17T18:23:13Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Fuck you and the White Supremacist dildo you rode in on. Reminder: [QUOTE=Restricted language in the Pit] The following expressions should not be directed at other posters. * * * fuck you [/QUOTE] > **[Restricted language in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858)** > > The following expressions should not be directed at other posters. cunt and variants, e.g., cuntlapper motherfucker cocksucker fuck you and variants, e.g., go fuck yourself, fuck off and die suck/lick my dick/cock and variants Expressions not... No warning issued. **Gfactor** Pit Moderator ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337/60 "2009-07-17T18:30:00Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] How is that in any way racist? Please be specific. Or, you can further align with that nitwit OP and revert to the oh-so-dependable ad hominem. [/QUOTE] > [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I’m sorry, you forgot to phrase you bigoted spew in the form of a question. We cannot accept that. Thanks for clearing that up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-that-the-light-is-shining-on-the-racists/503337.md?page=4)