# I like Vista. Am I in the minority? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 12, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304 "2008-01-12T17:33:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/1 "2008-01-12T17:33:48Z")
I’ve had a Vista-run computer for a couple of months now… And I adore the OS. Admittedly I may be free of many of the common problems associated with it - such as driver compatibility - by having up-to-date hardware. One problem I do have, and it isn’t such a problem for somebody with patience, is the fact that unlike with XP my internet connection takes a minute or so to be operational after the OS has loaded (XP would have internet access immediately) And I have compatibilitiy issues with some software… but that can be expected with software designed on/for an older OS. Annoying features like Indexing, and UAC can be turned off… and it only takes a minute on google to find out how. ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/2 "2008-01-12T21:28:30Z")
I can’t say I adore Vista, but I like it well enough. I’m not about to strip my PC and go back to XP - I’ve had no problems with the OS itself, everything works and runs quite nicely. I can’t say that I’ve noticed my internet connection being any slower at startup than XP, but then my XP machine always took a moment or two to say hello to our router anyway, so there’s nothing new there for me. But yes, I think we are in the minority at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/3 "2008-01-12T21:51:04Z")
I’m enjoying it so far, though I have some hardware that doesn’t work with it yet (audio interfaces) which is a little frustrating. ---
**Author:** ![Surly\_Chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Surly\_Chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surly_Chick)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/4 "2008-01-12T22:45:58Z")
Gaaaaaaaaaaaa! I **hate** it. I got a new laptop with it about 5 months ago and I’ve had more crashes in that time than I’ve had in the past 5 years. ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/5 "2008-01-12T22:48:22Z")
[QUOTE=Surly Chick] Gaaaaaaaaaaaa! I **hate** it. I got a new laptop with it about 5 months ago and I’ve had more crashes in that time than I’ve had in the past 5 years. [/QUOTE] Something is wrong with your computer. I haven’t had a single crash with Vista. ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/6 "2008-01-12T22:49:12Z")
[QUOTE=Lobsang] Something is wrong with your computer. I haven’t had a single crash with Vista. [/QUOTE] I’ve had a couple of crashes, but they were after I was playing around in the registry and that was my own damned fault. But I haven’t had any crashes apropos of nothing. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/7 "2008-01-12T23:54:49Z")
Wouldn’t have paid real money to upgrade the old system to Vista, but so far after almost 2 months with the new machine, no reason for bitter hatred nor desire to replace it with XP, either. (“Windows Mail”, OTOH, is lameness on a stick; it’s actually \*\*missing \*\* features that were in the last versions of OE… by Og, M$ really can’t do a mail/news client right to save their lives… I guess I’ll be getting T-Bird and the paid version of Forte Agent…) ---
**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/8 "2008-01-13T01:37:34Z")
I think there’s two things that will make a person have a good vista experience: 1. Enough ram 2. The right usage patterns If you happen to not meet those criteria, you would be me. 😉 I say that because I was give a temporary Dell to live out of while I loaned out my Mac…I threw Ubuntu on it as a liveability experiment. That first day (in a work usage mode) mightily sucked. This weekend, mostly using it for google apps has been pretty okay. I’d imagine Vista would act the same way with slight differences. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/9 "2008-01-13T05:20:10Z")
WTF is a “right usage pattern”? ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/10 "2008-01-13T05:24:25Z")
[QUOTE=Unintentionally Blank] I’d imagine Vista would act the same way with slight differences. [/QUOTE] Are you saying that Using Vista would be similar to using Ubuntu? ---
**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/11 "2008-01-13T05:28:15Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] WTF is a “right usage pattern”? [/QUOTE] gmail. Web Surfing. not much more. Vs Video editing, LAMP stuff. Games. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/12 "2008-01-13T05:46:28Z")
[QUOTE=Lobsang] Something is wrong with your computer. I haven’t had a single crash with Vista. [/QUOTE] No, I think _you_ have a magic computer, Lob. Windows explorer crashes 75% of the time I do searches (this started happening after an automatic, un-uninstallable, update 3 months ago), and when it comes to real, full on crashes, I’ve had that happen about half a dozen times because of drivers issues since I got this computer last winter. That’s already 3 times as often as XP ever crashed on me. What I can’t figure out is why the crashes are suddenly caused by the same drivers the computer has been using for weeks or months at a time. How do they become _un_compatable after working for so long? You definitely seem to be in the minority, Lobsang. ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/13 "2008-01-13T05:51:42Z")
I haven’t used it much at all myself, but the only good thing I’ve found about it is that it has MahJongg (a game to which I’m addicted). In a year or two more I’ll probably _trust_ it, but I still don’t like it. (Which is just fine for me; disliking Vista pushed me to replace my busted laptop with a Mac rather than another Windows machine, and now I’m in love.) ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/14 "2008-01-13T06:10:46Z")
I had my first crash on Vista yesterday, but I’ve been running it on my laptop for two or three months. My laptop isn’t my primary machine so it doesn’t get as much use, but when I have used it, it’s been pretty good (touch wood). ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/15 "2008-01-13T06:25:26Z")
[QUOTE=Unintentionally Blank] gmail. Web Surfing. not much more. Vs Video editing, LAMP stuff. Games. [/QUOTE] I don’t do video editing or LAMP but I do play games. I play a lot of games - WoW, FEAR, Doom 3, CoH, Portal, HL2, TF2. I’ve not had any of my games crash. The times I’ve had the crashes were just when I was browsing online. Not even watching videos, just browsing the dope using Firefox. ---
**Author:** ![Barrington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Barrington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barrington)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/16 "2008-01-13T16:26:13Z")
[QUOTE=JRDelirious] (“Windows Mail”, OTOH, is lameness on a stick; it’s actually \*\*missing \*\* features that were in the last versions of OE… by Og, M$ really can’t do a mail/news client right to save their lives… I guess I’ll be getting T-Bird and the paid version of Forte Agent…) [/QUOTE] Not wishing to hijack the thread, just a recommendation for using Agent for email as well as Usenet - it’s _much_ better than T-bird, and since you’re buying it anyway, why not? ---
**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/17 "2008-01-13T17:00:49Z")
I’m sorting around for new mail solutions and am likeing Google Mail. Apple’s Mail App had great spam filtering, Thunderbird _might_ eventually learn to be good at it, but I’m getting more and more that the apps aren’t filtering. I’m hoping the wizards at Gmail can do a better job. ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/18 "2008-01-14T01:09:39Z")
Yeah, overall I’m pretty satisfied. The Windows Key-search feature is killer. It’s _kind_ of like having a command prompt back, but better. It’s like just hit a key, type, “excel,” “int,” “word,” or even the more obscure programs that I rarely use and it’s right there. For someone that uses keyboard shortcuts over the mouse, it’s awesome. It’s been pretty stable for me, although the main reliability problem I’m having is with IE7 and Gmail. They don’t get along well for some reason, but I’ve been very unimpressed and annoyed with the newer versions of Firefox. I used to be a Firefox convert but I’ve since returned to IE. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/19 "2008-01-14T01:28:56Z")
[QUOTE=threemae] Yeah, overall I’m pretty satisfied. The Windows Key-search feature is killer. It’s _kind_ of like having a command prompt back, but better. It’s like just hit a key, type, “excel,” “int,” “word,” or even the more obscure programs that I rarely use and it’s right there. For someone that uses keyboard shortcuts over the mouse, it’s awesome. [/QUOTE] Interesting. That’s pretty much what Quicksilver and Spotlight do on the Mac, but Quicksilver is a third-party program. ---
**Author:** ![Mahna\_Mahna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Mahna\_Mahna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahna_Mahna)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304/20 "2008-01-14T01:40:46Z")
My biggest beef with Vista were the preset User Controls: > [@](#): > > Are you sure you want to proceed? > Really sure? > Like, really really sure? > OK, one last chance to say no before I do it! > … > Awww hell, I’m such a nice OS that I’ll give you one more chance. You still sure? Then I turned those off and it’s been a glorious partnership ever since. I really do wish that developers would get hopping on updating their software to be compatible with Vista, though… particularly my corporate VPN client. It’s not a big issue, though, because it gives me a convenient excuse as to why I don’t work from home. 🙂 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-vista-am-i-in-the-minority/433304.md?page=2)