# I like wine but

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Tags:** wine
**Created:** [June 20, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706 "2021-06-20T21:34:23Z")
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#### Post date: [June 20, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/1 "2021-06-20T21:34:23Z")

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There doesn’t seem to be any appetizer foods that go well with wine outside of cheeses or fruits.

I know plenty of entrees but no apps. You guys have a go to? (All suggestions welcome but I’m a fan of red wine myself)

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#### Post date: [June 20, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/2 "2021-06-20T21:37:47Z")

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Charcuterie? Many of those meats are tasty with wine, especially reds. I’d add in nuts, especially spicy or savory ones. Plus olives, some pickled vegetables, seafood cocktails.

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#### Post date: [June 20, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/3 "2021-06-20T21:42:26Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> appetizer

We like fresh crusty bread with garlic and olives with an olive oil dip.

Best on a warm summer’s evening, sitting outside while the ribs slowly bake in the oven.

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#### Post date: [June 20, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/4 "2021-06-20T21:43:02Z")

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Apps are the same as main courses at the root of it all. The same rules should apply to pairing as you would a main course. Think of how the app tastes (light, savory, sweet, herby, etc).

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#### Post date: [June 20, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/6 "2021-06-20T22:03:40Z")

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Light and white-ish? Sauvignon Blanc, Pinot Grigio

Darker, richer? A light red or a _high quality_ rosé.

Deep, savory? Zinfandel, Shiraz

Or do what I do and drink Bota Box Redvolution blend with _everything_!

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#### Post date: [June 20, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/7 "2021-06-20T22:18:43Z")

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I find any sort of herby egg/cheese dishes like tarts and quiche go well with a surprisingly wide variety of wine. Growing up in the American Southwest, something like [this](https://www.thegratefulgirlcooks.com/easy-chile-relleno-casserole/) was served at a local winery (although with fresh Hatch chile). Again, as **Bob\_2** mentioned, crusty bread is a good mix as well, and I’d also second **BippityBoppityBoo’s** charcuterie with a hearty red.

Another super easy one would be homemade hummus with herbal additions selected to match your wine, with whole wheat pitas or other carb options to scoop, along with veggies of choice. My personal favorite for red wine (since I don’t normally care for it) is [bacon wrapped dates](https://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-bacon-wrapped-dates-226082) [although I leave out the cheese more often than not] - salty, smokey and sweet, it compliments the few reds I do like.

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#### Post date: [June 20, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/8 "2021-06-20T22:20:46Z")

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Breadsticks are pretty good. Especially for dipping. 😋

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#### Post date: [June 20, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/9 "2021-06-20T23:07:17Z")

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Zinfandel, Shiraz, Cab and Petit Sarah are my jam and I will destroy half a box of Triscuits on the couch when I drink them. I nimble a fourth of one at a time. Bit of salty compliments the fruit notes, bit of a pallet cleanser for the heavier Cab, but they never fill me up like bread, cheese or meat, which do even if they are cut up into small portions.

They make a mess though.

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#### Post date: [June 20, 2021, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/10 "2021-06-20T23:50:44Z")

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A nice dry spicy Gewurztraminer with antipasti (salami, pickled stuff, olives, cheese) is great. Especially if you can get a northern Italian one, but those tend to be hard to come by.

If your apps are really light (say crackers and mild cheese, grapes), try a Chenin Blanc instead.

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#### Post date: [June 21, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/11 "2021-06-21T00:01:17Z")

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Another glass of wine? Don’t listen to me.

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#### Post date: [June 21, 2021, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/12 "2021-06-21T00:35:48Z")

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Tapas?

> **[Tapas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapas#Common_Spanish_tapas)**
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> A tapa (Spanish pronunciation: \[ˈtapa\]) is an appetizer or snack in Spanish cuisine. Tapas can be combined to make a full meal, and can be cold (such as mixed olives and cheese) or hot (such as chopitos, which are battered, fried baby squid, or patatas bravas). In some bars and restaurants in Spain and across the globe, tapas have evolved into a very sophisticated cuisine. In some Central American countries, such snacks are known as bocas. In par...

A lot of them are listed…

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#### Post date: [June 21, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/13 "2021-06-21T01:27:15Z")

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Nova lox with brie and some sourdough is my go too with a nice full bodied pinot noir.

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#### Post date: [June 21, 2021, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/14 "2021-06-21T09:46:52Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> There doesn’t seem to be any appetizer foods that go well with wine outside of cheeses or fruits.

The afforementioned tapas and antipasti and the Eastern Med/Ottoman Sphere equivalent: meze/mezze

> **[Meze](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meze)**
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> Meze (also spelled mezze or mezé) (/ˈmɛzeɪ/, /ˈmɛzɛ/) is a selection of small dishes served as appetizers in Albanian, Bosnian, Armenian, Kurdish, Levantine, Turkish, Bulgarian, Greek, Iraqi, Egyptian, Balkan, Caucasian and Persian cuisine, to name a few. It is similar to Spanish tapas and Italian antipasti. A mezze may be served as a part of a multi-course meal or form a meal in itself. In non-Islamic countries, or in areas without alcohol restrictions, mezze are often served with spiri The word...

All 3 of those often feature fish dishes.

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#### Post date: [June 21, 2021, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/15 "2021-06-21T10:19:22Z")

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I must confess the OPs question flumoxes me, because the whole point of wine is that it goes with basically all food.

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#### Post date: [June 21, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/16 "2021-06-21T22:53:16Z")

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A bunch of great suggestions above: Add a nice mineral Pinot Gris with shrimp cocktail, Stellenbosch Rose with charcuterie (lots of chutneys, pickles and mixed meats), pinot noir with blackened fish, Argentine malbec and steak bites… On and On.

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#### Post date: [June 21, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/17 "2021-06-21T22:57:09Z")

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There really are.

Thanks for the suggestions guys.

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#### Post date: [June 23, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/18 "2021-06-23T17:08:19Z")

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Chocolate and a bold red are epic together!

MtM

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#### Post date: [June 23, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/19 "2021-06-23T17:31:14Z")

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Antipasto, which is Italian meaning “against pasto.” Much the same way that provolone means in favor of “valone.”

Sorry, I stole that from Bob Newhart. But yeah, antipasto is what you need.

[Antipasto - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipasto)

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#### Post date: [June 24, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/20 "2021-06-24T17:46:06Z")

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Eliminate the middleman, just [have](https://www.diemersfontein.co.za/the-original-coffee-chocolate-pinotage-now-with-a-brand-new-look/) a [nice](http://www.darlingcellars.co.za/Wine.aspx?WINEID=46812&CLIENTID=1141&Archive=&Title=) [chocolatey](https://shop.grandeprovence.co.za/product/angels-tears-le-chocolat-pinotage/) [pinotage](https://diemersdal.co.za/product/diemersdal-pinotage/).

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#### Post date: [June 27, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-like-wine-but/944706/21 "2021-06-27T21:13:16Z")

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> [@Dallas\_Jones](#):
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> Antipasto, which is Italian meaning “against pasto.” Much the same way that provolone means in favor of “valone.”

Your post inspired me to look up the etymology. The “anti” is more like “ante,” as in “ante meridian” or AM, which means “before noon.” And “pasto” means meal, which makes sense given “pasta.” So antipasto means “before meal.”

On the other hand, “provolone” is just from “provola” which means “buffalo milk” and “-one” which is an intensifier. So it means something like “very buffalo milk.”

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