# I lost my fire arm collection **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 10, 2013, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738 "2013-01-10T13:03:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![randomface](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@randomface](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randomface)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/121 "2013-01-11T22:54:21Z")
Everything you have in your home is inherently dangerous in some situation. Even a fire extinguisher. In a fire, it’s at risk of exploding if you don’t use it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/122 "2013-01-11T23:01:31Z")
> [@randomface](#): > > Everything you have in your home is inherently dangerous in some situation. > > Even a fire extinguisher. In a fire, it’s at risk of exploding if you don’t use it. Whoa, you’re right! So many people were killed by exploding fire extinguishers last year! We should do something about that!:rolleyes: A gun in the home is 10 times more likely to harm the people who live there than it is to protect them. Keeping one around is almost always a stupid thing to do. And don’t tell me how you’re not like all those foolish, irresponsible gun owners who don’t take proper precautions. Everything THINKS they’re responsible, right up until the horrible moment that something happens that proves that they’re not. ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/123 "2013-01-12T00:52:42Z")
> [@August\_West](#): > > You really should be pleased, as an _Esox lucius_ that all of **Sigene** ’s guns are now in the hands (fins?) of your brethren in an icy lake somewhere ;). Oh great. Now I have to get a gun to defend myself against them.😛 > [@August\_West](#): > > I dispute your definition of a “responsible gun owner”. Anyone who loses a firearm in “condition one” (round chambered and the safety off) is, by any reasonable definition, **not** a responsible gun owner. Anyone even _carrying_ a firearm in condition one had better be actively trying to shoot something. I used the term “responsible gun owner” in jest, from the owner’s standpoint because every gun owner thinks he’s responsible even if he’s careless with his weapons. And even if he takes every precaution with his guns today, that doesn’t mean he will tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/124 "2013-01-12T01:09:42Z")
I don’t have some b.s. story about losing my gun. The truth is, I sold it to some guy on the street to have money to spend on hookers. Please don’t tell my wife. ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/125 "2013-01-12T01:17:55Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > …allow people like me to pursue our hobby without fears that we are a public menace. If you’re not a menace, how did a boneheaded roommate end up with your gun illegally in his trunk without your knowledge? You might _think_ you’re responsible, and maybe you are for the most part, but don’t you agree that shouldn’t happen to what is popularly thought of as a “responsible gun owner”? ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/126 "2013-01-12T01:42:55Z")
> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > There are no “responsible” gun owners. Only lucky ones. Keeping a firearm at home is an inherently dangerous thing to do. > > Now, sometimes circumstances justify doing something dangerous to prevent something worse from happening. But we should stop creating a false dichotomy between good, responsible gun owners and bad, irresponsible ones. It would be like saying that good, responsible drivers don’t have to wear seat belts or obey speed limit laws because we can trust them to always act responsibly and not get into accidents. Amen, brother. I suspect that every gun owner’s definition of “responsible” is self-biased. The guy in Oregon probably thought he was being responsible by taking “protection” for himself and others in the theatre and having it ready to use at a moment’s notice. The boys who found the gun were more responsible than he was. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/127 "2013-01-12T01:47:34Z")
Good memory, Esox Lucius. From the original thread “Tell me about your Ruger MKII” > [@Tell me about your Ruger MKII](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-ruger-mkii/238185/2): > > Mine’s about as basic as you can get. 4" barrel, non-adjustable sites, blue finish. > > Got it as a birthday present from a girlfriend, a roommate “accidentally” put it in his car trunk and it was taken by the police, struggled with the cops to get it back, had to get a new case, lock and magazine for it because the originals were “lost” by the ex-roommate. How was he able to get access to this gun? Did you have any preventative measures in place to ensure your roommates and guests did not have access to it? ---
**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/128 "2013-01-12T01:55:59Z")
Those are good guns. I’ve got a Ruger MKIII that I’m about to have the barrel threaded so I can put a suppressor on it. I’m also going to have my Savage .22 rifle threaded so I can use it on that. The cans I shoot will never hear what shot them! ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/129 "2013-01-12T02:31:06Z")
> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > A gun in the home is 10 times more likely to harm the people who live there than it is to protect them. Keeping one around is almost always a stupid thing to do. Wrong. You’re misinterpreting the statistic. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/130 "2013-01-12T02:43:07Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Okay, how about this approach: Given your responsibility as a member of the bar, what would you advise a client who asked you that question? :dubious: For you, my non-refundable fee is $300/hour with a four hour minimum, payable in advance. Pay up and I’ll answer your question. ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/131 "2013-01-12T03:03:22Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > Good memory, Esox Lucius. From the original thread “Tell me about your Ruger MKII” Actually, he mentioned it in this thread too, post 119, to complain that having the gun registered didn’t do much good because the police didn’t inform him when they found it.:rolleyes: Methinks they might have been hoping to save themselves the trouble of finding it again sometime in the future. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/132 "2013-01-12T03:16:10Z")
And this is why it’s a waste of time to try to talk to these people. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/133 "2013-01-12T03:43:15Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > And this is why it’s a waste of time to try to talk to these people. I’ve lost track of who is dissing whom. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/134 "2013-01-12T15:11:03Z")
> [@Esox\_Lucius](#): > > If you’re not a menace, how did a boneheaded roommate end up with your gun illegally in his trunk without your knowledge? He did not possess is illegally. Also, having an unloaded gunin your trunk isn’t illegal. In any case, your comment completely sidesteps the failure of the LAPD to make any effort to contact the registered owner. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/135 "2013-01-12T16:09:01Z")
[Here’s my tale of a responsible firearms owner (Me)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=583949) See, we do exist ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/136 "2013-01-12T17:16:54Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > For you, my non-refundable fee is $300/hour with a four hour minimum, payable in advance. Pay up and I’ll answer your question. As said before, you’re not helping your cause here. This board is about \*fighting \*ignorance, not promulgating it, which is unfortunately what you’ve been doing. Or are you \*really \*that profoundly ignorant about something you have absolutely no excuse for being ignorant of? If so, you may turn in your law license at the door. If not, then what was your purpose in proclaiming such a silly falsehood to be fact? You gotta take responsibility for your words and actions in this world, friend. Now step up. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/137 "2013-01-12T21:37:11Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I have no duty to you or anyone else to “reduce collateral damage from guns”. > [@](#): > > Bullshit. > [@](#): > > You lose. > [@](#): > > Pay up and I’ll answer your question. Guns don’t scare me; Gun owners who really don’t give a shit about other people scare me. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/138 "2013-01-12T22:54:38Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Guns don’t scare me; Gun owners who really don’t give a shit about other people scare me. People who don’t give a shit about other people scare me. ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/139 "2013-01-12T23:53:36Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > He did not possess is illegally. Also, having an unloaded gunin your trunk isn’t illegal. Illegal or not, you apparently lost track of the gun and didn’t know where it was despite being a “responsible” gun owner. The point is that just like everyone thinks he’s a good driver when clearly we aren’t all good drivers, every gun owner thinks of himself as responsible with his gun, yet guns are lost, stolen and accidentally discharged regularly. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738/140 "2013-01-13T00:31:17Z")
Which is not a discussion which I was pursuing, so you’re just making a personal attack rather than address the failure of registration. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-lost-my-fire-arm-collection/646738.md?page=8)