# I love Jesus (the rapist)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-jesus-the-rapist/504472>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 27, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-jesus-the-rapist/504472 "2009-07-27T19:34:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![ashman165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@ashman165](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashman165)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-jesus-the-rapist/504472/101 "2009-07-27T22:41:44Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Correction: _moronic_ internet atheism. 😃

Restrict your commentary to the OP; you aren’t **Liberal** and **Tom** won’t protect you; **TubaDiva** isn’t here with anyone’s personal information to blackmail or harass anyone so you can’t rely on that. In other words, restrain yourself to the OP.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-jesus-the-rapist/504472/102 "2009-07-27T22:42:30Z")

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> [@ashman165](#):
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> Thanks, but that doesn’t answer the question I asked. Does the bible, or god, support rape or not? I’ll thank you to move your non-responses to another thread. In this tread, if you can’t answer the question presented, then shut the fuck up.

THIS PASSAGE of the bible doesn’t support rape. It smacks it with a (civil) _punishment_. How many damn times am I going to have to repeat that before you manage to correctly parse the words in the quote you yourself selected?

And all my responses have been on topic, except the ones explaining the wordplay, which you _liked_. So _you_ STFU.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-jesus-the-rapist/504472/103 "2009-07-27T22:42:58Z")

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> [@ashman165](#):
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> Great, if you can’t restrict your comments to the OP, you aren’t welcome here. Your name isn’t **Liberal** ; you aren’t free to hijack any thread and do what you want with the consent of **Tom** , and **TubaDiva** doesn’t have my personal information to blackmail me. I’ll tank you, given the above reasons, to restrict your commentary to the actual OP.

Admit it: you’re fishing for a banning just so you can squeal “Help, help, I’m being oppressed! See the violence inherent in the system!”, aren’t you? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![ashman165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@ashman165](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashman165)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-jesus-the-rapist/504472/104 "2009-07-27T22:46:12Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> Rape is the crime whose civil legal punishment is being described in the passage you quote. You will note that it doesn’t go unpunished, either.

So, an appropriate punishment is forcing the rape victim to marry the rapist?

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> Who me? I’m a card-carrying atheist, like I said. What do you _think_ I say about Biblical inerrancy?

I have no opinion on that as I lack sufficient information. But I’ll thank you to stick to the OP as this isn’t a blog post created by **Liberal** and **Tom** can’t make it as much; nor is it would seem the case that, **TubaDiva** has my personal information to blackmail me. Even if it did, nothing in my personal information can be used against me with local law enforcement, so she’s SOL.

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> Also, biblical literalists are dumber than the average bear.

Indeed, they are.

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> But I’m pretty sure that even some of _them_ are aware that certain bits of the bible are jewish legal codes and their failure to mention non-legal punishment doesn’t in the slightest imply that non-legal (as in, divine) punishment will not also occur.

I don’t doubt that, but such wasn’t my question. My question was, as the OP painfully, in small words for the functionally illiterate (and to keep **Tom** and **TubaDiva** from contacting people to have myself done away with) delineates isn’t about the bible as a whole. It’s about whether the bible supports or in the alternative allows for rape.

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**Author:** ![ashman165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@ashman165](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashman165)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-jesus-the-rapist/504472/105 "2009-07-27T22:48:57Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> THIS PASSAGE of the bible doesn’t support rape. It smacks it with a (civil) _punishment_. How many damn times am I going to have to repeat that before you manage to correctly parse the words in the quote you yourself selected?

So, the _civil_ punishment for rape should be a mere payment? What about the _ **criminal** _ punishment? What has the bible to say of that?

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> And all my responses have been on topic, except the ones explaining the wordplay, which you _liked_. So _you_ STFU.

And you are free to play the wordplay game. Merely do it elsewhere. This isn’t such a place. To stay within the rules, as **TomnDebb** has outright said that is okay, anyone who lacks the mental firepower to stay on topic is far too stupid to participate in this conversation as nothing someone who’s that cerebrally retarded has to say will further the conversation.

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**Author:** ![ashman165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@ashman165](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashman165)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-jesus-the-rapist/504472/106 "2009-07-27T22:49:59Z")

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> [@Malacandra](#):
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> Admit it: you’re fishing for a banning just so you can squeal “Help, help, I’m being oppressed! See the violence inherent in the system!”, aren’t you? :dubious:

Please restrain your comments to the OP. Even, I’m sure, **TomnDebb** will agree with that.

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**Author:** ![ashman165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@ashman165](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashman165)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-jesus-the-rapist/504472/107 "2009-07-27T22:51:28Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> THIS PASSAGE of the bible doesn’t support rape. It smacks it with a (civil) _punishment_. How many damn times am I going to have to repeat that before you manage to correctly parse the words in the quote you yourself selected?
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> And all my responses have been on topic, except the ones explaining the wordplay, which you _liked_. So _you_ STFU.

Just so we’re all clear here: all of your comments have been on topic, except for the ones that haven’t?

I appreciate the effort to stay on topic except for when you don’t. Do better.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-jesus-the-rapist/504472/108 "2009-07-27T22:54:30Z")

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Meh. It wasn’t even an entertaining troll.

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