# I love meat!! Glorious steak! Wonderful ham! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 23, 2000, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540 "2000-07-23T11:36:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/21 "2000-07-24T03:50:52Z")
I don’t view this thread as a mockery of vegetarian values(hell, my fiancee is a veggie), but a celebration of the wonder that is MEAT! Turducken, anyone? **Kinsey** , you old pervert, the Meat prayer is yours to distribute as you will.Any profits should be sent to the American Beef Council, or whatever they call themselves. And on a final note: _You don’t win friends with sal-AD, you don’t win friends with sal-AD_ ---
**Author:** ![Feynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@Feynn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feynn)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/22 "2000-07-24T04:42:10Z")
I think this is just the meat eaters checking in here and says nothing against those who choose an alternative lifestyle such as vegetarianism. I have nothing against vegetarians, it just leaves that much more meat for me. I had strip loins the other day so tender you could cut them with a fork, you really have to meet my butcher… ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/23 "2000-07-24T05:26:18Z")
While the rest of you may not be overtly veggie-baiting, the OP sure did it’s share: > [@](#): > > Humans were made to eat anything which would not eat them first, and to polish off fruits and grains as an appetizer and to help their bowels work. I have had some acquaintances who were ‘Vegans’ – (Crap that name sounds like something out of a grade B science fiction movie.) Oh, no veggie-baiting there… > [@](#): > > My teeth, I learned, are designed to grind seeds, masticate plant fiber and **cut, rip, shred and hold meat**. Most of us have those little ‘vampire’ teeth poking out like fangs. Well, they used to be. Fangs are not used to sneak up on a cabbage. They are used to grab and hold meat! Even our intelligence evolved from hunting live prey, not sneaking up on a leaf. Who are you trying to convince? Surely not other meat-eaters. They all eat meat, they all enjoy it, no need to “justify” it to them with this stuff about the pointy teeth. It sounds defensive. It is obviously not directed at meat-eaters. > [@](#): > > I know of no herbivore which developed much in the way of intelligence but I know of several animal omnivores which have displayed smarts. And what’s this all about? > [@](#): > > Pack me a chicken with tomato, celery, bread, mushrooms, onions, garlic, green peppers and small potatoes, toss it in the oven and I’m happy. I care. > [@](#): > > Cover me a thick steak with tomatoes, onion, a squeeze of mango, sliced carrots and garlic, poke it in the oven and serve it up and I’m pleased. I care. > [@](#): > > If you wish to browse in the back 40, please do, but cut me off a hunk of that cow there and throw it on the fire as you pass by. Who “wishes” to browse the back 40? Not meat eaters, once again. > [@](#): > > Meat lovers of the world unite! Why do you need to unite? You are the vast majority. It’s not like you’re some endangered species, or some oppressed minority. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![PRISM02](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@PRISM02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PRISM02)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/24 "2000-07-24T07:51:10Z")
Drainthelizard: Feel free to use it if you wish. My OP is after an annoying discussion with a couple of acquaintances that day concerning the magical, mystical, life giving qualities of eating roots and nuts and plants, sipping the pure juices of vegetables and fruits and avoiding the horror that is red meat. Red meat, after all, comes from living animals (as opposed to dead)?, who are terrified prior to death and these fear chemicals flood their meat, which is ripped from their very bones in a savage style. Would I eat Bambi? Would I eat Ferdinand the bull? Not to mention he chemicals the farmers pour into _THE MEAT_ and the horrific conditions they keep some fowl, plus the slaughter of innocent, young cows for veal. Bambi and Ferdinand have a stay of execution by me. The rest? Run 'em in boys. I, like most people who eat meat, have no stomach for the slaughter and dressing out process, but that does not mean I don’t like the end product. I like juicing fruits and vegetables – when I can afford the outlandish prices. ($1 for one bruised California peach, 1 for two small bell peppers, .98 for one American Tomato, $.75 for one large apple.) If you are a vegetarian who minds his or her own business, then this post is not for you. I apologize for insulting your feelings. However, if you don’t mind your own business, then fuck off and stop bugging me! Go browse in the back 40 along with the cows. I love meat **and** vegetables! If you wish, for some strange reason, to change the nature of your being, please do so but don’t harp at me when I cut into a bloody steak or slice up a chicken. Ground round by the pound! Tenderloin tender and rare! Chicken that’s crispy! Ham juicy and seasoned with honey! Oh yeah, the last I read, we got our larger brains by being predators not prey and the consumption of protein helped. Herbivores are and were prey also, but never developed much in the way of intelligence. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/25 "2000-07-24T08:21:16Z")
> [@](#): > > If you are a vegetarian who minds his or her own business, then this post is not for you. I apologize for insulting your feelings. Oh sure. You apologize, and then continue to insult. > [@](#): > > If you wish, for some strange reason, to change the nature of your being I see you get to decide what the nature of _my_ being is. Why the hell do you care anyway? Why are you entitled to an opinion on the nature of _my_ being? > [@](#): > > Oh yeah, the last I read, we got our larger brains by being predators not prey and the consumption of protein helped. Herbivores are and were prey also, but never developed much in the way of intelligence. You are insulting. It’s silly. Now, I understand how irritated you have been by in-your-face veggies, and you have every right to be. How rude of them to annoy someone who is minding their own business. Insult them if you wish. But just _them_. They have it coming for being obnoxious. But don’t insult the rest of us who _are_ minding our own business. As I have stated before, I am often pestered and bugged (while I am minding my own business) by meat-eaters, who want to “taunt” me, wave meat in my face, and basically be jackasses. The mere mention of “vegetarian” is like waving a red flag in front of them. Their comments resemble yours in every way. And let me tell you, I am also sick of hearing people tell me about their pointy teeth, and how they love their vegetables too, and all the other tired crap. It’s all been done, over and over. I’ve heard it a million times, it’s been DONE, my dear. And I still mind my own business. I don’t _start_ threads like this. ---
**Author:** ![Kipper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Kipper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kipper)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/26 "2000-07-24T08:49:58Z")
If god wanted us to be vegetarians why did he make animals taste so good. ---
**Author:** ![PRISM02](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@PRISM02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PRISM02)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/27 "2000-07-24T13:13:45Z")
[quote] yosemitebabe[unquote] If you don’t like the fucking post, then **don’t** read the fucking post!! There are lots of posts I don’t read and no one twisted your fucking arm to read the damn thing and respond to it. Now go kick a cabbage, smoke some wheatgrass, sneak up on a turnip or harass a broccoli. In the mean time, guys, pass me that pork rib and a side of BBQ sauce, please and a fresh cold beer. ---
**Author:** ![PRISM02](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@PRISM02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PRISM02)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/28 "2000-07-24T13:15:19Z")
Well, the quotes screwed up on that one, but I think you all get the meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Flypsyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f0a364/32.png) [@Flypsyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flypsyde)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/29 "2000-07-24T13:42:08Z")
> [@](#): > > Since this is or shortly will be a vegans-vs-carnies fight, I’ll just send it to the Pit. My money’s on the carnies. Those guys who run the Tilt-A-Whirls are a bunch of mean cusses. ---
**Author:** ![lunapark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/278dde/32.png) [@lunapark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lunapark)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/30 "2000-07-24T14:12:22Z")
Prism said: [QUOTE] I like juicing fruits and vegetables – when I can afford the outlandish prices.{/quote] Yea, and meat is so cheap. ---
**Author:** ![magdalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@magdalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magdalene)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/31 "2000-07-24T14:13:23Z")
Prism, you love meat AND porn? Will you be my friend? ---
**Author:** ![nebuli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/0ea827/32.png) [@nebuli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nebuli)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/32 "2000-07-24T14:20:17Z")
> [@](#): > > Bambi and Ferdinand have a stay of execution by me. Dibs on Ferdinand. ---
**Author:** ![Heloise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e36b37/32.png) [@Heloise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heloise)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/33 "2000-07-24T14:23:30Z")
I love meat (except pork, it’s killer on my stomach) and I love vegetables. I once considered being a vegetarian, just for all the health reasons that are given, but couldn’t stand the thought of someone eating a grilled filet mignon while I was munching on salad or a gardenburger. Sorry, no can do. But, I have admiration for those who are willing and able to make the cut in their diet for health/animal rights/whatever reason they choose to do so. I have no problem with vegetarians, be they vegan or otherwise, as long as they don’t call me a killer or try to stick their fingers in my hamburger to keep me from eating it, or otherwise try to deter me from my Carnivore’s Delight. Vegetarian/omnivore/carnivore, whatever you happen to be doesn’t matter to me, as long as you let me eat in peace. ---
**Author:** ![Phobos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Phobos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phobos)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/34 "2000-07-24T14:34:37Z")
Lisa: I don’t eat meat from animals. Homer: Not ham? Lisa: No. Homer: Not bacon? Lisa: No! Homer: Not even pork chops? Lisa: Dad! They’re all from the same animal! Homer: Oh right Lisa, a _magical_ animal! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/35 "2000-07-24T14:51:06Z")
The poster formerly known as Mark Serlin posts an antagonistic thread which is pretty meaningless without the context. When called upon it, he explains who it _IS_ directed towards and then insults even more. Gee, I love meat too, Serlin, but I don’t feel the need to be a complete and raving prick for no reason to tell of my particular dietary habits. I realize what Serlin is complaining about, of course. It pisses me off when PETA-types scream at me that “Meat is Murder.” It annoys me when what I choose to eat or not eat is questioned by others. But you know what, dick cheese? You just did the exact same fucking thing to the many vegetarians here who never once complained about what you’re eating. Hypocrite much? Oh right. You’re Serlin. It’s your whole way of life. Almost forgot. :rolleyes: Putz. * * * Yer pal, Satan _I HAVE BEEN SMOKE-FREE FOR: Three months, two weeks, one day, 12 hours, 51 minutes and 30 seconds. 4261 cigarettes not smoked, saving $532.68. Life saved: 2 weeks, 19 hours, 5 minutes._ Visit [The Fabulous Forums of Fathom](http://fff.fathom.org/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?) ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/36 "2000-07-24T15:45:33Z")
Reminds me of a bumber sticker I once saw . . . “Vegetarian - American Indian word translating as ‘One who cannot hunt’” . . . or something like that. At this point, i feel it necessary to point out that Hampburger Helper is the manna upon which we should all rely. Eat it every day - yum. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/37 "2000-07-24T16:08:55Z")
Meat eaters tend to eat heribvorous animals. Vegetarians are herbivorous animals. To us meat eaters, Vegetarians are …food! Mmmmm. Vegetarians! Somebody round them up. I’ll start the Barbecue. (No wonder the Veggies seem so nervous) ---
**Author:** ![Hayley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Hayley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hayley)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/38 "2000-07-24T16:30:13Z")
Vegetarians - where? This thread seems to be filled with meat-eaters fanatically defending their views against … who, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![PRISM02](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@PRISM02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PRISM02)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/39 "2000-07-24T16:43:40Z")
I will admit that I have some sympathy for Vegans (gosh, I can’t help but keep thinking of the planet Venus when I hear that word) because companies produce vegetable based meat substitutes that cost less than hamburger but costs more to buy than sirloin. A neighbor chick of mine was a vegetarian and she kept insisting on making snide remarks to me when I BBQed in our shared back yard, like how the aroma of charred, dead flesh annoyed her and it turned her stomach to see slabs of animal tissue sizzling over the coals. She had PETA and Animal Rights stickers all over her car, bought vegetables by the carload, was thin as a rail and poked fun at my little pot belly. (I called her a poster person for starving people.) She tried to get the land lord to make me stop BBQing in the back yard. The land lord laughed. I snuck a ‘Beef is good food’ sticker on her car and from her rantings and ravings, one would have thought I left beef fat on her door step. My other neighbors were amused by the war between us and observed it all with delight. I think they were placing bets. I kept peeling animal rights stickers off of my door and she seemed to find her car a target for ‘Eat More Beef’ bumper stickers by some mysterious person. ( 😃 ) Someone dropped me a pamphlet about the wonders of going vegetable. I sent her a catalogue for ordering smoked meats. The battle ended when I got a new job, made more money and moved to a new apartment across town. I think my neighbors were disappointed because the entertainment stopped. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2000, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540/40 "2000-07-24T16:43:50Z")
We aren’t defending anything. We are testifying. Christians testify as to their faith without defending it, why can’t we? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-meat-glorious-steak-wonderful-ham/26540.md?page=3)