# "I Love My Macintosh Almost As Much As My Perfect Pancake" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 21, 2002, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900 "2002-11-21T08:30:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/41 "2002-11-21T16:23:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \* > \*\*Bacon is best when burnt to a crisp? > you poor misguided fool. Run, do not walk, RUN, to the nearest airport and get thyself to either Ireland, the UK, or Denmark. > > We know bacon over here. It is tender. It is juicy. It is succulent. To taste it, to savour its ambrosiac flavour as it tantalizes your tastebuds is to know the feeling of Sunshine on an Elysian Field. > > mmmmmmm Bacon. > > I smell Bacon. Elvis is Innnnnnnnn the kitchen! \*\* You may be eating your bacon sandwich but you’re thinking of my sweet, sweet, Gypsy lovin’ ---
**Author:** ![Tansu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@Tansu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tansu)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/42 "2002-11-21T16:41:22Z")
**Kal** = Quality. I mean your humour, not your loving. I must make it clear that I have no idea about your loving. (I wouldn’t want **Washte** to have to kill me with her bare hands). ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/43 "2002-11-21T16:51:13Z")
First: the fact that folks are ranting about how much they hate the ads prove that the ads are getting at least part of the job done: they’ve made an impression, and you remember them. On some level, therefore, they are effective. Also, the fact that the ads are so frequently parodied, to me, smacks of envy. Second: it appears that some of you Wintel people still believe in the [Megahertz myth](http://www.apple.com/g4/myth/). Megahertz is not the sole measure of performance. Think about it this way: which puts out more power, a 4-cylinder engine at 4000 RPMs or an 8-cylinder engine at 3000 RPMs? Third: I find it very humorous that the same folks who used to call Macs “toys” now believe their systems are superior because they have more games. Mmmm, that’s irony you’re tasting! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/44 "2002-11-21T16:51:41Z")
The Mac-commercial guy who opened his IBM-type machine to solve a printer problem was the lamest. He probably wondered why his machine stopped working during that last blackout, too. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/45 "2002-11-21T17:15:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kal \* > \*\*You may be eating your bacon sandwich but you’re thinking of my sweet, sweet, Gypsy lovin’ \*\* Oh contraire, mon ami. You may be in the midle of your sweet sweet lovin’, but you are thinking of my bacon sandwich. ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Crunch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@Chief\_Crunch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Crunch)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/46 "2002-11-21T17:18:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Max Torque \* > **Second: it appears that some of you Wintel people still believe in the [Megahertz myth](http://www.apple.com/g4/myth/).** Read the fine print, boy-o. > [@](#): > > \*\*Based on a suite of performance tests using Adobe Photoshop 6.0. Wowee! They’re using a program that was **originally written** for the Mac as a benchmark. What are the **real life** benefits of this? You can apply a Gaussian blur half a second faster than me? A two gig Wintel notebook will run a person about fifteen hundred bucks. The top of the line one gig powerbook costs three grand. But, hey, whatever you got to believe that helps you make it through the day. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/47 "2002-11-21T17:21:52Z")
But without Mac ads, we’d have no Ellen Feiss. Beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep! ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/48 "2002-11-21T17:29:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Max Torque \* > First: the fact that folks are ranting about how much they hate the ads prove that the ads are getting at least part of the job done: they’ve made an impression, and you remember them. On some level, therefore, they are effective. Effective in that I’d be embarrassed to switch after that lameass campaign, yeah. 😃 I do see your point, but I don’t necessarily believe in the “bad publicity is still publicity” theory, at least in this instance. I don’t hate all of the Switch ads, I hate the ones that portray Mac users as PC-hating whiners or total morons. > [@](#): > > Third: I find it very humorous that the same folks who used to call Macs “toys” now believe their systems are superior because they have more games. Mmmm, that’s irony you’re tasting! If you’re including me among that number due to my “it doesn’t play my games” comment above, I’m not tasting any irony. I call all of my home electronics “toys”, and I’ve liked computers for their game possibilities all the way back to the first computer I owned, a Commodore Vic-20. For my most-recently purchased computer (I have 2 laptops and a desktop networked at home, running 3 different versions of the Windows OS) I chose the model that I did based heavily on video/audio options (built-in cards was the absolute dealbreaker), and video card will be the next thing I upgrade. ---
**Author:** ![Kwyjibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/59ef9b/32.png) [@Kwyjibo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kwyjibo)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/49 "2002-11-21T17:37:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Max Torque \* > \*\*Third: I find it very humorous that the same folks who used to call Macs “toys” now believe their systems are superior because they have more games. Mmmm, that’s irony you’re tasting! \*\* I know you and I have tossed this around a wee bit but… [IMHO] Mac’s, back in the day were, by far, the best computer you could use for multimedia applications. Hands down. But PC’s have caught up them in that aspect. (For the most part.) [/IMHO] As for the games, the lack of them has always always been a reason I have stayed away from them. Let’s be honest, Mac’s having a limited selection of games is nothing new. (But I do see the irony of what you are saying.) Now, I’d never buy a Mac because they are so damed expensive and I like to build my own PC, but _damn_, I’d love to have one anyway! (BTW: I have never seen any of these Mac ads.) ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/50 "2002-11-21T17:58:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lucki Chaarms \* > **crispy delicious submission** [hijack] [matt runs in screaming wielding a giant anime mallet] _ **CRISP!!!** _ _wham wham wham wham wham_ … I feel better. [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/51 "2002-11-21T18:10:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kal \* > \*\*She now knows that good bacon is tender and juicy. > \*\* aka soggy and greasy and partially cooked. Give me a perfectly crisp “snap” when I bite into my bacon, every time. And Mac rocks. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/52 "2002-11-21T18:13:33Z")
::stops in and looks around:: Hey! Who’s responsible for the millions of bacon shards all over the place? ---
**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/53 "2002-11-21T18:21:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Stoid \* > **aka soggy and greasy and partially cooked.** That describes the recipient of my sweet, sweet lovin’ ---
**Author:** ![jonpluc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/fbc32d/32.png) [@jonpluc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jonpluc)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/54 "2002-11-21T18:30:17Z")
Ill bet my Mac can make a perfect pancake better than your PC so NA NA NA!!! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Derfel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bb73d2/32.png) [@Lord\_Derfel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Derfel)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/55 "2002-11-21T18:31:55Z")
**Kwyjibo:** > [@](#): > > [IMHO] > Mac’s, back in the day were, by far, the best computer you could use for multimedia applications. Hands down. But PC’s have caught up them in that aspect. (For the most part.) > [/IMHO] [Not just IYHO…](http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2002/11_nov/reviews/cw_macvspciii.htm) Digital Video Editing (very pro-Mac, usually) agrees: > [@](#): > > Of course, Mac stalwarts will cling to the notion that Mac OS X is so much better and easier to use than Windows XP, but if you’re spending all day inside After Effects, which operating system you’re using makes little difference. What does make a huge difference is if you have to sit and wait for rendering any longer than necessary. And, according to our benchmarks here, if you have an After Effects composite that needs, say, two hours to render on the Mac, it’ll take you about an hour and 10 minutes on this PC. So, in addition to the extra $629 you must pay for the Mac, it will cost you plenty of time as well, especially while using After Effects. Time is money. After looking at these startling benchmark results, we have to gaze over at our beautifully-designed Macs and ask, “Is it worth it?” They do similar [comparisons](http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2002/07_jul/features/cw_macvspc2.htm) using Photoshop filters. The Mac wasn’t even close. I will add that I don’t dislike Macs - I think OS X looks fantastic, and I can see how their case designs appeal to certain people (just not me). But people who say Macs are faster for multimedia are demonstrably wrong. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/56 "2002-11-21T18:32:02Z")
Why did some people start calling ham “Candian Bacon”. Is that some sort of insult? Do Canadians really not know the difference between ham and bacon? Seems unlikely to me. I prefer my Bacon crisp and hard (insert your sexual metaphor of choice here), as undercooked pork products are not my scene, baby. ---
**Author:** ![Darkrabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@Darkrabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkrabbit)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/57 "2002-11-21T18:38:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Max Torque \* > … Second: it appears that some of you Wintel people still believe in the [Megahertz myth](http://www.apple.com/g4/myth/). Megahertz is not the sole measure of performance. Think about it this way: which puts out more power, a 4-cylinder engine at 4000 RPMs or an 8-cylinder engine at 3000 RPMs?.. The problem with this is that Intels/PC engines are 4 cylinders running a 3000RPMs and PowerPC/Apple engines run at only 1250RPMs. PPC processors are not doing nearly triple the work of a Intel processor. **Darkrabbit** “When I started at the design firm, my Mac was the fastest machine in the company for the sort of work that I do. But then I got transfered out of the Gaussian blur department” ---
**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/58 "2002-11-21T18:52:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tansu \* > \*\*I must make it clear that I have no idea about your loving. (I wouldn’t want **Washte** to have to kill me with her bare hands). \*\* That may be true, but your curiosity is aroused. Now whenever you so much as see bacon you will dream, **Tansu**. Oh, shall you dream… You have nothing to fear from **Washte** though; she laughs at other women who wish to be taught the secret, mystic arts of sweet, sweet, Gypsy lovin’ because she is safe in the knowledge that only she can undertake tuition. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \* > **Oh contraire, mon ami. You may be in the midle of your sweet sweet lovin’, but you are thinking of my bacon sandwich.** Your libidinous fantasies are really quite, quite sick. Nothing distracts me from my sweet, sweet, lovin’. Nothing! Although I may eat a bacon sandwich afterwards, while playing with my Speak and Spell. ---
**Author:** ![glarGH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/76d3ee/32.png) [@glarGH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glarGH)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/59 "2002-11-21T19:20:24Z")
I want bacon and maple syrup for breakfast. Also, I wish to offer my little tale of Mac Joy ™. I don’t know where these Mac ads get off saying that those boxes, however cute (they are), never fail. NEVER FAIL?? I work for some hippy organization here in Hawaii. They like Macs. Oh, ok, this will be fine, says I, being the sweet little glarGH I am. The damn thing died like 10 times, locked up every half an hour, needed its OS re-installed 4 times and actually lost those little screw things the monitor plugs into. SUCK! But it was really cute. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900/60 "2002-11-21T20:31:12Z")
> [@](#): > > The damn thing died like 10 times, locked up every half an hour, needed its OS re-installed 4 times and actually lost those little screw things the monitor plugs into. SUCK! Oh, well then. Your Mac sucked, so all Macs suck. My PC beeps (overheating alarm) everytime I try to launch Juno. SUCK!!! All PCs SUCK! Oh…wait. Maybe it’s just a particular problem with my individual PC. Oh, no. That can’t be it, because that would make, like, _sense_, to think that. PCs SUCK!!! PCs SUCK!!! ::shrug:: I like my Macs, a lot. I have owned quite a few PCs, and I feel that I was a little more familiar with Windows than your “average user”. (Which means, not _really_ knowledgable, but OK. And I’m not shy about opening up a manual.) And you know what? I like my Macs better. _My_ experience, _my_ choice, _my_ preference. And yeah, as it so happens, _I use Photoshop A LOT._ So the fact that my Mac runs Photoshop extremely well matters to me. Why the hell do some of you care what computer I use? And why do you care if I spend whatever I spend on my computer? (By the way, I didn’t spend a lot on this G4, thanks to eBay.) Do I start threads bitching about all you PC users? Does any other Mac user do that? Not that I know of. So what the hell is the deal here? Someone needs to link to Fenris’ thread “Platform Wars, last restort of the pathetic loser” (I’m too rushed for time to do it myself.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-macintosh-almost-as-much-as-my-perfect-pancake/137900.md?page=4)