# I love my wife dearly but she is a brainwashed Evangelical Trump supporter

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 22, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477 "2021-12-22T13:48:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/141 "2021-12-27T16:57:29Z")

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Every time you capitalize TRUTH, it reinforces my belief that perhaps you should seek some counselling.

> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Once again, as a non-American I don’t think you have any idea how destructive the Trump presidency (and the people who caused it) was to the US and the fabric of our nation.

A really good way to start recovering from all that damage would be to not burn up your commitments and vows over a political spat about a man who isn’t even President anymore.

I’d say the same thing to someone thinking of divorcing their spouse of 47 years because they supported Biden. Politics just shouldn’t be that important. We are all victims of 24/7 media building ratings by turning politics into national bloodsport, but the truth is that if you didn’t watch TV or read papers and didn’t know who the President was, you probably couldn’t tell by how it affected your life. How is your life different now that Biden is President, aside from your tribal and mood affiliations? What concrete changes are you seeing that actually affect you?

On the other hand, a 65 to 75 year old woman having her partner walk out on her will radically change the life of both. The financial hit they would take is orders of magnitude greater than anything Trump could do to them.

If you are pitting a President against your wife of 47 years, you may have some issues that could use a professional to sort through.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/142 "2021-12-27T17:04:51Z")

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I agree, the OP needs to do a cost-benefit analysis. Sit down and consider the pros of leaving your wife (in the name of truth) and the cons of doing so - and the pros and cons of staying. Assume that she’s unchangeable.

Also, would the _threat_ of divorce change her?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/143 "2021-12-27T17:07:14Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> If you are pitting a President against your wife of 47 years, you may have some issues that could use a professional to sort through.

To the OP’s point re: his wife: If you are pitting a President against your husband of 41 years, you may have some issues that could use a professional to sort through.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/144 "2021-12-27T17:08:36Z")

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He has said that he’s the one who initiates the ‘debate’. Sounds like she’s willing to live and let live.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/145 "2021-12-27T17:10:28Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> I’d say the same thing to someone thinking of divorcing their spouse of 47 years because they supported Biden.

And you’d be correct. Biden isn’t a threat the to existence of our nation. Let’s go to the other extreme, would you cut ties with a spouse who supported a KKK Grand Wizard as president? Or is that just “politics?”

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/146 "2021-12-27T17:20:18Z")

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If my spouse supported a KKK Grand Wizard, I’d still have to consider the pros and cons of cutting her loose, especially if I were in my 70s. The cost of staying with her would be high but the cost of leaving would be arguably far worse yet.

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**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/147 "2021-12-27T17:25:56Z")

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I see both sides of the argument and giving someone personal advice without knowing everything is inappropriate. That’s why I recommended seeing a professional, either alone, or with your wife so you can talk about the issues in front of someone who will keep the discussion from spinning out of control.

Having differing political beliefs than your partner is not that unusual, and for some couples keeps their relationship alive, but given your health situation and your wife’s apparent indifference to your feelings, an independent third party can help get to the root of the problem and determine if there’s a middle ground you both can live with for the long term.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/148 "2021-12-27T17:27:24Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> If my spouse supported a KKK Grand Wizard, I’d still have to consider the pros and cons of cutting her loose, especially if I were in my 70s.

Divorce is tough, but sometimes the best option. There are worse things than being unmarried in your 70s. I have no interest in spending my “golden years” with a crazy person. Supporting Trump is crazy.

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**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/149 "2021-12-27T17:28:25Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Divorce is tough, but sometimes the best option. There are worse things than being unmarried in your 70s. I have no interest in spending my “golden years” with a crazy person. Supporting Trump is crazy.

Everyone who voted for Trump isn’t crazy by any definition of that word.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/150 "2021-12-27T17:34:53Z")

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> [@Jay\_Z](#):
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> Everyone who voted for Trump isn’t crazy by any definition of that word .

I’ll agree to disagree. (But I’ll amend to “crazy, stupid or evil.”)  
Each of us must draw the line where we’re comfortable. What I can’t accept is Sam’s assertion that rejecting Trump voters in my life is “just politics.”

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/151 "2021-12-27T17:37:56Z")

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Ask yourself this; If, the day after your long, bitter and costly divorce, Trump drops dead from too many burgers and Diet Coke, his family self distructs over the spoils, all the tea spills, the big lie is revealed and over, former supporters now claim they only went along for the giggles, will this still seem like it was worth it?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/152 "2021-12-27T17:51:56Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> Ask yourself this; If, the day after your long, bitter and costly divorce, Trump drops dead from too many burgers and Diet Coke, his family self distructs over the spoils, all the tea spills, the big lie is revealed and over, former supporters now claim they only went along for the giggles, will this still seem like it was worth it ?

Absolutely.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/153 "2021-12-27T17:52:53Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> former supporters now claim they only went along for the giggles

That’s the worst excuse since “I was only following orders”

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**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/154 "2021-12-27T18:05:01Z")

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Regular people were on the side of the Confederacy, on the side of the Nazis.

War sucks. Even good wars suck. Honestly, I am seeing a lot of people today trying to egg us on to some sort of “good war.” If there is a reason to fight, I would fight, even though “good wars” have plenty of casualties and are awful. But at the end of the day, even if you win, there’s going to be a whole lot of people who didn’t agree with you, and you are going to have to figure out how to get along with them, unless you want to set up your own extermination camps… “good guy” extermination camps, that is.

I am divorced. The family of my ex is mostly Republicans. Likely some of them, maybe most of them, voted for and/or supported Trump. The math would speak to that. I did not enjoy politics being brought up, I don’t think it’s a good idea, usually, in social situations. Nowadays there are more people, on “my side” supposedly, who want to egg on these sorts of conflicts, like OP and others here. I don’t care for that.

Anyway, the impact of the divorce is 1000x more than any politics in my life. Not even close. Now I have/had a LTR with a GF who is more aligned politically with me. That is all but done, nothing to do with politics, more with hurt and baggage from past relationships. Look at the statistics from divorce. There are a lot of things other than politics that go into a relationship. A lot of more important things than politics.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/155 "2021-12-27T18:16:21Z")

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> [@Jay\_Z](#):
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> A lot of more important things than politics.

Agreed, but support of Trump is much more reprehensible then mere “politics.”  
(I’m sorry I keep repeating this, but everyone else is repeating the fiction that supporting Trump is just a political disagreement)

Divorce is often (usually) very difficult. I know a lot of people (including me) who had difficult divorces. Still, I don’t know any of them who regret getting divorced.

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**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/156 "2021-12-27T18:26:27Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Divorce is often (usually) very difficult. I know a lot of people (including me) who had difficult divorces. Still, I don’t know any of them who regret getting divorced.

I got left for another man. Have three kids. No way would I do that to my ex. So I’m on the victim side, but I can’t really say that there are no regrets. Now you know one.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/157 "2021-12-27T18:29:43Z")

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> [@Jay\_Z](#):
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> I got left for another man. Have three kids. No way would I do that to my ex.

My ex-wife cheated on me and left. Two kids. I’m was certainly sorry she did that. It hurt, me and the kids. It messed me up for quite at time. I’m not sorry we divorced after that.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/158 "2021-12-27T18:32:23Z")

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> [@Jay\_Z](#):
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> got left for another man. Have three kids. No way would I do that to my ex. So I’m on the victim side, but I can’t really say that there are no regrets. Now you know one.

Same for me, except left for another woman. Now you know one more.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/159 "2021-12-27T22:53:06Z")

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Yeah, there is this push among people here to normalize Trumpism. At its core, this place is deeply conservative, in the sense that it rejects scary realities in favor of pretending everything is going to be ok because it was ok before. Trumpism is a violent, white supremacist and anti-democratic ideology. The OP’s wife is a member of that movement; the OP obviously has a problem with that fact because he is posting about that problem here.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2021, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-my-wife-dearly-but-she-is-a-brainwashed-evangelical-trump-supporter/956477/160 "2021-12-28T05:53:37Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> > [@Odesio](#):
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> > farmers routinely use Ivermectin to the point where some of them spread it on their toast in the morning.
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> I mean, this is true, but it’s really for the flavor. 😉

I thought that was only when they couldn’t get Vegemite.

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