# I Love NY! NY passes SSM bill **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 25, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794 "2011-06-25T02:45:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pbbth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/21 "2011-06-25T15:22:38Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > You’ll regret it when Joe Pesci becomes Mrs. Robert DeNiro next month. If I weren’t already a supporter of gay marriage I would be now for no other reason than to see a Joe Pesci and Robert DeNiro wedding. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/22 "2011-06-25T15:45:58Z")
Eventually (and I hope it’s soon) the Feds will realized that there is no legal reason why same sex couples cannot be married. In a very bizarre book I read against the idea, the author claimed that the majority of people don’t want gay marriage, the majority of gays don’t want to be married, yet gay marriage will destroy marriage as society knows it. I cannot reconcile those three opinions. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/23 "2011-06-25T15:54:47Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Yeah, I don’t see that lasting very long, other than VFW halls and the Knights of Columbus. Everyone else it going to look at it from a simple economic perspective. Seriously, this is going to be a huge boon to the New York wedding business. And Gay Pride Day is going to be INSANE (especially as it is an event well known as a serious and sober occasion). This August – the first full month after the law goes into effect – will probably have more marriage licenses issued than in any month in the history of the state. There’s also the tourism angle: you don’t need to establish residence to marry in New York.\* There’s a one-day waiting period. I can imagine people flying in to NYC for a weekend to tie the knot. \*Reports I’ve seen are contradictory, but most say you do in Massachusetts. ---
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/24 "2011-06-25T16:16:12Z")
I know more divorced people than married-never divorced. Sanctity of marriage my ass. I’ve known lots of lesbians in my life. Know what? Some were nice and some were complete assholes- just like normal people _shock_. No law should get between two people who love each other. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/25 "2011-06-25T16:19:54Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > [The Empire State Building has gone rainbow.](http://www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/empire-state-building-celebrates-gay-marriage) > > So awesome. There are people singing at Stonewall. I think I am verklempt. Shiny! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/26 "2011-06-25T17:03:41Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > This August – the first full month after the law goes into effect – will probably have more marriage licenses issued than in any month in the history of the state. Any bets on how long before the first gay wedding magazine is launched? This is as close to a jobs bill as any state can pass. Flowers, clothes, hall rental, catering, cake - these are things that produce _local_ jobs. I’m pretty sure that was an angle Cuomo used to get the Republicans on board. I just checked. [Already happened](http://bondmag.net/magazine/). ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/27 "2011-06-25T17:14:59Z")
> [@pbbth](#): > > If I weren’t already a supporter of gay marriage I would be now for no other reason than to see a Joe Pesci and Robert DeNiro wedding. I’ll show you a caterer and a florist who by God better get everything right if they know what’s good for them. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/28 "2011-06-25T17:18:31Z")
> [@Hello\_Again](#): > > That’s really cool. I think about the fact that someone stopped whatever they were doing to change it up at 10:30 on a friday, and it kinda warms the cockles of my cold, cold heart, ya know? I’m guessing it was set up for the Pride parade on Sunday, and they just turned it on early. Still a nice gesture though. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/29 "2011-06-25T18:19:15Z")
Next on the list sure won’t be Kansas, not with Gov. Brownback in office. The state is already regressing on abortion, with legislation for further restrictions and more frequent inspections on clinics. It’s possible that we may be left without a single licensed provider of abortions if they come down too hard on the ones already there. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/30 "2011-06-25T18:47:37Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > Next on the list sure won’t be Kansas, not with Gov. Brownback in office. The state is already regressing on abortion, with legislation for further restrictions and more frequent inspections on clinics. It’s possible that we may be left without a single licensed provider of abortions if they come down too hard on the ones already there. The Planned Parenthood clinic now in Kansas City, KS will just re-locate across the state line to Kansas City, MO. Frankly I was shocked to find that they were on the Kansas side. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/31 "2011-06-25T19:31:29Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I believe Illinois is on their way. I suspect WA isn’t too far away also. ---
**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/32 "2011-06-26T00:26:48Z")
I’m in Idaho. If it goes state-by-state I fully expect it to be the next-to-last holdout – the last being Utah. (Oh to see the looks on the faces of the LDS leaders on that day…it might make the wait worth it…) Come on Feds, let’s cut this state-by-state shit out! That being said, I’m very happy about New York. Very. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/33 "2011-06-26T01:00:06Z")
Ohio has to repeal a Constitutional amendment prohibiting same-sex marriage before we join the ranks. It will happen, though. ---
**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/34 "2011-06-26T05:04:18Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > Ohio has to repeal a Constitutional amendment prohibiting same-sex marriage before we join the ranks. WA too I believe. We’ve probably got a majority, but amending the state Constitution requires 2/3 of both houses then a majority ballot measure. I don’t think even we have 2/3 yet. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/35 "2011-06-26T05:16:57Z")
> [@Cyberhwk](#): > > WA too I believe. We’ve probably got a majority, but amending the state Constitution requires 2/3 of both houses then a majority ballot measure. I don’t think even we have 2/3 yet. Nay. WA’s anti-gay marriage law is only a statute, not in the constitution. The law sadly _was_ upheld as “constitutional” by the state supreme court in 2006. ---
**Author:** ![Mississippienne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@Mississippienne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mississippienne)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/36 "2011-06-26T05:57:43Z")
> [@whiterabbit](#): > > I’m in Idaho. If it goes state-by-state I fully expect it to be the next-to-last holdout – the last being Utah. (Oh to see the looks on the faces of the LDS leaders on that day…it might make the wait worth it…) Come on Feds, let’s cut this state-by-state shit out! > > That being said, I’m very happy about New York. Very. No, no, the last holdout will be Mississippi. I would seriously be astonished to see MS legalize gay marriage in my lifetime (I expect to see it happen Federally at some point, but on a state level, I think MS will be dead last). ---
**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/37 "2011-06-26T06:04:19Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > Nay. WA’s anti-gay marriage law is only a statute, not in the constitution. The law sadly _was_ upheld as “constitutional” by the state supreme court in 2006. Then the hell are we waiting for? If all it takes is a straight majority (so to speak), we could take 2 Dem defections in the Senate and 7 in the House without a single Republican vote. And I may be wrong again but aren’t west side Republicans pretty much elected on fiscal issues? Meaning there could be pro-marriage GOP votes to be had? ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/38 "2011-06-26T06:18:14Z")
> [@Cyberhwk](#): > > WA too I believe. We’ve probably got a majority, but amending the state Constitution requires 2/3 of both houses then a majority ballot measure. I don’t think even we have 2/3 yet. > [@Knorf](#): > > Nay. WA’s anti-gay marriage law is only a statute, not in the constitution. The law sadly _was_ upheld as “constitutional” by the state supreme court in 2006. You may be thinking of Oregon. We enacted that a few years ago, and I think that it requires a supermajority or a double majority (for referendums, that means that you need 50%+1 of the vote, plus 50%+1 of the voting public must actually vote, which never happens except in election years) to do it. It’s a shame; we’re pretty progressive in many other ways, but the redneck vote in the eastern part of the state balances out Portland in that respect. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/39 "2011-06-26T07:51:17Z")
> [@Cyberhwk](#): > > Then the hell are we waiting for? If all it takes is a straight majority (so to speak), we could take 2 Dem defections in the Senate and 7 in the House without a single Republican vote. And I may be wrong again but aren’t west side Republicans pretty much elected on fiscal issues? Meaning there could be pro-marriage GOP votes to be had? You would think so. Maybe it’ll happen. I wonder whether Gregoire would sign it though. I can’t tell her form a Republican most of the time. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794/40 "2011-06-26T13:21:02Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > You would think so. > > Maybe it’ll happen. I wonder whether Gregoire would sign it though. I can’t tell her form a Republican most of the time. You obviously haven’t been following the newspaper comment sections, where “Queen Christine” and “Demonrats” are favorite topics. Anyway, I don’t think she’ll get the chance. Next year the Leg has a short session, which will be primarily devoted to stuffing more fingers in the fiscal dike. Which is not to say that non-fiscal matters can’t be considered, but I would be kind of surprised (though pleased) if SSM makes the cut. And I have a sinking feeling [Rob McKenna](http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2011/06/15/rob-mckenna-on-gay-marriage-part-2) will be the next gov, which means at least another four years — unless an SSM measure passes with a veto-proof majority, which I can’t see happening without Eastern Washington finally following through on its perennial threat to secede\*. In any case, it would have to get past Tim Eyman to take effect. \*That’s a joke, son. I think. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-ny-ny-passes-ssm-bill/586794.md?page=3)