# I love the smell of Karma in the morning **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 15, 2008, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-the-smell-of-karma-in-the-morning/477186 "2008-12-15T01:25:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-the-smell-of-karma-in-the-morning/477186/61 "2008-12-17T23:35:29Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Boots? Gus, were you on a _motorcycle_ or a _bicycle_? > > I wouldn’t find many people riding _bicycles_ on an _expressway_ wearing _boots_. > > Or calling cars ‘cages’, either. > > Maybe DrDeth should take the time to examine what he’s reading before accusing cyclists of being violent people? Critical Mass has done similar things to motorists. ---
**Author:** ![PopeJewish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@PopeJewish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PopeJewish)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-the-smell-of-karma-in-the-morning/477186/62 "2008-12-18T03:03:16Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > It’s a cultural thing. We’re a car commuting nation. Few cities outside southern California seem to embrace cycling. SOUTHERN California?! Maybe San Diego or Santa Barbara, but I’ve never seen anyone on a bike in LA, period (well ok, maybe once or twice I see people getting exercise on a bike, but never commuting). There are lots of bikers up in Santa Cruz and San Francisco and especially in Davis, where there are more bike commuters than car commuters if I remember correctly. Plus you’re forgetting cities like Portland and Seattle, where there are lots of bike commuters. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-the-smell-of-karma-in-the-morning/477186/63 "2008-12-18T09:21:03Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Critical Mass has done similar things to motorists. I’m aware. And they’re assholes. Clearly, all cyclists are not members of Critical Mass. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-the-smell-of-karma-in-the-morning/477186/64 "2008-12-18T12:33:47Z")
> [@PopeJewish](#): > > SOUTHERN California?! Maybe San Diego or Santa Barbara, but I’ve never seen anyone on a bike in LA, period (well ok, maybe once or twice I see people getting exercise on a bike, but never commuting). There are lots of bikers up in Santa Cruz and San Francisco and especially in Davis, where there are more bike commuters than car commuters if I remember correctly. Plus you’re forgetting cities like Portland and Seattle, where there are lots of bike commuters. Once you get off the freeways there are lots of them (varies with community) I myself have commuted by bike in the San Fernando Valley, and where I work now (Santa Monica) there are tons of them. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-the-smell-of-karma-in-the-morning/477186/65 "2008-12-18T15:08:06Z")
> [@Sublight](#): > > … Your response was that cyclists are smug and think they’re superior, as if that justified the behavior. > > And yes, I stop at red lights and stop signs. I also travel the same speed as the cars on the street. Wrong. I think that what you are trying to say is that was your interpretation of a small part of the overall point that I was making that you could somehow shoehorn into the point that you are making. Anyway, I would talk more but I have to go throw shit at bikers now and run over puppies. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-the-smell-of-karma-in-the-morning/477186/66 "2008-12-18T16:31:04Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > Wrong. I think that what you are trying to say is that was your interpretation of a small part of the overall point that I was making that you could somehow shoehorn into the point that you are making. Anyway, I would talk more but I have to go throw shit at bikers now and run over puppies. My question was why drivers in America seem to be so quick to turn violent, while others aren’t. Your response was to try and justify this behavior. Don’t forget your beer on the way out. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-the-smell-of-karma-in-the-morning/477186/67 "2008-12-18T18:22:30Z")
My apologies in advance is this is an ESL thing and you are not getting subtleties in communication, but it really seems like you are not seeing the difference between an explanation for something and a justification for it. You are able to see that those are different things, Right? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-the-smell-of-karma-in-the-morning/477186/68 "2008-12-18T21:21:41Z")
> [@GusNSpot](#): > > Bawahahaha, yeah, we were motor cyclists… Maybe you might say we were of the less civilized kind… he he he > > _I fear for you son if you expect people to read the black squiggly parts. That would mean that they could not make all those jumps to conclusions and stances of righteous indignation. That would spoil all their fun._ It’s amazing, that here’s a person talking about a bunch of bikers terrorizing a lone woman and smashing her car, an act of cowardice and thuggery combined- and _he’s bragging about it_.:rolleyes: Of course, they’d never try the same one biker to one male in a “cage”. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-the-smell-of-karma-in-the-morning/477186/69 "2008-12-18T22:13:15Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > It’s amazing, that here’s a person talking about a bunch of bikers terrorizing a lone woman and smashing her car, an act of cowardice and thuggery combined- and _he’s bragging about it_.:rolleyes: > > Of course, they’d never try the same one biker to one male in a “cage”. :dubious: Wanna bet? 🙂 See post #43 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-the-smell-of-karma-in-the-morning/477186.md?page=3)