# I love you my sweet c\*nt!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 17, 2004, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765 "2004-06-17T00:01:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/1 "2004-06-17T00:01:04Z")

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Just a quick rant on the whole CU football scandal…

The whole thing is a disgusting mess. The athletic department is only responsible for 3 % of the school revenue (AFAIK – this from dealing with my research budget and various accounting people up there), yet they have time and again been responsible for many of the problems on the campus. That’s not what this rant is about though.

I think Coach Barnett should have been fired for his insensitivity; I expect much more from someone with his level of authority. If I were king of the campus he would have been gone so fast his head would spin. This rant is not about Barnett either.

What this rant is about is English usage. Apparently (according to CU President Betsy Hoffman), [the word cunt can be used as a term of endearment](http://www.coloradodaily.com/articles/2004/06/16/news/news01.txt). I don’t know whether to be pissed at the new low that the administration has sunk to, or whether to be thoroughly amused at the visualizations I have of Betsy’s home life (Come to me my little jizz biscuit, that’s right, you’re my cunt).

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**Author:** ![Arch\_Trout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@Arch\_Trout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arch_Trout)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/2 "2004-06-17T00:13:14Z")

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I don’t get it.  
What did Barnett do to upset you?

He disciplined the player responsible.  
What did you want him to do?

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**Author:** ![MinniePurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@MinniePurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MinniePurl)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/3 "2004-06-17T00:17:53Z")

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I’m surprised she could say it with a straight face. It’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard of. Has anyone, anywhere, ever used “cunt” as a term of endearment? It’s a fairly nasty word choice even when referring strictly to the body part, let alone an entire person. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![AwSnappity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a3d4f5/32.png) [@AwSnappity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AwSnappity)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/4 "2004-06-17T00:27:47Z")

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From the article:

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> “But, because she is a medieval scholar, she is also aware of the long history of the word dating back at least to (14th Century English writer Geoffrey) Chaucer - which shows that in early usage it wasn’t a negative term,” said Ames.

Yes, and I’m sure that was _exactly_ what the football players were thinking when they used it.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/5 "2004-06-17T00:30:15Z")

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> [@Arch Trout](#):
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> I don’t get it.  
> What did Barnett do to upset you?
> 
> He disciplined the player responsible.  
> What did you want him to do?

How about, when allegations of rape come to light, not trying to deflect questions by saying “Katie was not only a girl, she was terrible” as if her kicking ability had something to do with it?

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/6 "2004-06-17T01:24:55Z")

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I’m not certain, but I think the dreaded C word was used in a romantic context in _Lady Chatterly’s Lover_. But it has been years since I read it and I don’t own a copy and probably wouldn’t look if I did.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/7 "2004-06-17T01:42:36Z")

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> [@AwSnappity](#):
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> From the article:
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> Yes, and I’m sure that was _exactly_ what the football players were thinking when they used it.

It’s well-known that the CU basketball team is where all of the Chaucer scholars are. The football team is more into Keats and Shelley.

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**Author:** ![Arch\_Trout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@Arch\_Trout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arch_Trout)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/8 "2004-06-17T01:54:13Z")

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> [@Jimmy Chitwood](#):
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> How about, when allegations of rape come to light, not trying to deflect questions by saying “Katie was not only a girl, she was terrible” as if her kicking ability had something to do with it?

Ah, point taken.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/9 "2004-06-17T02:46:18Z")

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Maybe they were just referring to the Colorado University Netball Team.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/10 "2004-06-17T03:19:40Z")

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> [@Jimmy Chitwood](#):
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> How about, when allegations of rape come to light, not trying to deflect questions by saying “Katie was not only a girl, she was terrible” as if her kicking ability had something to do with it?

Bingo!

Also when another woman came forward with allegations, Barnett dismissed her with something along the lines of “I will stand behind my players 100%” (not an actual quote). He didn’t even investigate…

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/11 "2004-06-17T03:29:33Z")

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I’m just tired of Colorado being the rape capital of the US. First the Air Force Academy scandal, then CU, Kobe Bryant, etc…

I am also extremely tired of the administration at CU spending so much time and money on the Buffs. I am tired of being a grad student at CU and watching my grant money going to an administration that seriously caters to the football team. CU is a world class research institution with several Nobel Prize winners, but researchers (IMHO) get treated pretty badly. They make it pretty hard to be successful.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/12 "2004-06-17T04:28:51Z")

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I’m trying to think of a way I can could my wife the C word which would allow me to retain the full health and functioning of my genitalia. I’m pretty sure it can’t be done.

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**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/13 "2004-06-17T04:40:13Z")

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Hmm.

I should find out when Betsy’s birthday is and embroider her a pillow.

An embroidered pillow should make a statement, though. Not a big long sentence, maybe just one word … something simple, y’know?

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/14 "2004-06-17T04:56:18Z")

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Well, the CU prez’s statement is clearly absurd, but as the article said, she may be trying to protect CU from legal liability, i.e., doing her job.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/15 "2004-06-17T05:09:41Z")

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> [@Abbie Carmichael](#):
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> Hmm.
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> I should find out when Betsy’s birthday is and embroider her a pillow.
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> An embroidered pillow should make a statement, though. Not a big long sentence, maybe just one word … something simple, y’know?

If any suggestion I have ever seen on The Straight Dope is worthy of actually following through on, this is it.

F’ing brilliant.

I can’t sew.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/16 "2004-06-17T06:02:08Z")

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> [@MinniePurl](#):
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> Has anyone, anywhere, ever used “cunt” as a term of endearment?

I don’t know if it’s ever been done before, but it’s now my mission in life to do it myself.

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**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/17 "2004-06-17T07:18:18Z")

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> [@Eyer8](#):
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> I’m just tired of Colorado being the rape capital of the US. First the Air Force Academy scandal, then CU, Kobe Bryant, etc…
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> I am also extremely tired of the administration at CU spending so much time and money on the Buffs. I am tired of being a grad student at CU and watching my grant money going to an administration that seriously caters to the football team. CU is a world class research institution with several Nobel Prize winners, but researchers (IMHO) get treated pretty badly. They make it pretty hard to be successful.

One Buff to another:

Amen.

Fuck football.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/18 "2004-06-17T07:24:20Z")

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As far as lame defenses go, this is miles above and beyond “It depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is.” I’m amazed she could speak the words without her brain exploding - but who’s to say brains were involved?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/19 "2004-06-17T07:56:07Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> I don’t know if it’s ever been done before, but it’s now my mission in life to do it myself.

Hey, I have a date on Saturday with someone I have zero attachment to, and I’m in an experimental frame of mind.

The problem is two-fold, as I see it: First, finding exactly the right place to insert it. Second, finding exactly the right emollient. This bit from the article might help:

> [@](#):
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> Chaucer believed that “queynte” was derived from “quaint,” which meant “a many-layered, in-folded mystery.”

I’ll get back to y’all on Monday.

([A Flash animation](http://www.distaste.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fc.html) featured in this week’s b3ta newsletter seems somewhat appropriate, if entirely unsafe for work without headphones.) 😃

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**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/20 "2004-06-17T08:15:48Z")

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Something tells me Betsy Hoffman isn’t going to be able to make it across campus without an onslaught of “endearment.” Makes me smile.

(not to mention the goldmine of CU shirts, bumper stickers, and campus signage that are undoubtedly having a couple of letters added to them as we speak. No, I don’t see President Hoffman living this down any time soon)

T-shirt idea up for grabs: “you can’t spell ‘cunt’ without CU”

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