# I love you my sweet c\*nt!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 17, 2004, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765 "2004-06-17T00:01:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/21 "2004-06-17T08:22:48Z")

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“See you need terminating.”

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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/22 "2004-06-17T10:19:16Z")

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> [@Eyer8](#):
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> What this rant is about is English usage. Apparently (according to CU President Betsy Hoffman), [the word cunt can be used as a term of endearment](http://www.coloradodaily.com/articles/2004/06/16/news/news01.txt). I don’t know whether to be pissed at the new low that the administration has sunk to, or whether to be thoroughly amused at the visualizations I have of Betsy’s home life (Come to me my little jizz biscuit, that’s right, you’re my cunt).

Err…if this is really about English usage, I’m with her. I happen to be Henry’s sweet little cunt, and proud of it. I admit “jizz biscuit” doesn’t sound like something he’d say, but either way, our home life is quite good, thank you.

That said, in this context her comments are like bringing up the use of “nigga” in rap music when what you’re talking about is a Klan rally.

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**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/23 "2004-06-17T10:43:38Z")

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Well, it certainly _can_ be. Either between close friends, or a in a closed group, offensive terms can be used in another way. I won’t go into the psychology of it, but just say it definately happens. Generally a bit jokingly, but certainly. Think “verbal male horseplay.”

However, I bet it wasn’t _here_. You can’t just go up to someone at random and call them a cunt\*. You have to know them well first.

\*It’s like the ‘calling someone a taxi’ joke but the other way round.

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**Author:** ![Mayfield\_St.Cloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/67e7ee/32.png) [@Mayfield\_St.Cloud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mayfield_St.Cloud)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/24 "2004-06-17T11:35:28Z")

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> [@Snooooopy](#):
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> It’s well-known that the CU basketball team is where all of the Chaucer scholars are. The football team is more into Keats and Shelley.

Sorry to nitpick, but I believe the football team is actually into _Cleats_ and Shelley.

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/25 "2004-06-17T11:54:19Z")

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> [@Shade](#):
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> Well, it certainly _can_ be. Either between close friends, or a in a closed group, offensive terms can be used in another way. I won’t go into the psychology of it, but just say it definately happens. Generally a bit jokingly, but certainly. Think “verbal male horseplay.”
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> However, I bet it wasn’t _here_. You can’t just go up to someone at random and call them a cunt\*. You have to know them well first.
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> \*It’s like the ‘calling someone a taxi’ joke but the other way round.

My charming brother and his close group of friends often greet each other with “How’s it going ya cunt” and they actually like each other, though I’m not sure they would classify it as a term of endearment.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/26 "2004-06-17T12:38:56Z")

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Eh, sure it can be a term of endearment. When referring to a body part, that is. I refer to a certain part of my girlfriend as being a cunt.

Unfortunately, it’s her left eye. Her right eye, on the other hand, I refer to as “fuck hole.”

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/27 "2004-06-17T13:49:20Z")

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> [@AwSnappity](#):
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> From the article:
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> Yes, and I’m sure that was _exactly_ what the football players were thinking when they used it.

Man, I guess people around the campus must use the word “niggardly” constantly. After all…

-Joe, remembers people losing jobs for using the word CORRECTLY

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**Author:** ![MinniePurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@MinniePurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MinniePurl)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/28 "2004-06-17T15:55:54Z")

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[C-Word Flak Leaves Hoffman in Tears](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5231668/)

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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/29 "2004-06-17T16:19:37Z")

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I’m currently making a movie. One of my actresses had to say the line “So-and-so will kiss my ass!” In rehearsal, she objected because she said “My grandma will see this.” So what did she agree to say? “So-and-so will kiss my cunt!” So apparently, “cunt” is more grandma-friendly than “ass”.

You heard it here first.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/30 "2004-06-17T16:39:49Z")

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> [@calm kiwi](#):
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> My charming brother and his close group of friends often greet each other with “How’s it going ya cunt” and they actually like each other, though I’m not sure they would classify it as a term of endearment.

From the article

**Kirk said she as also heard the term being used with a positive connotation, such as in New Zealand and Australia, where it is used as a term of friendship for men or women.**

And seeing how your name is “calm kiwi”. . .could you be from down under?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/31 "2004-06-17T16:48:45Z")

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That loud noise you heard was the CU “hate speech” policy imploding.  
I’m sure an acceptable literary reference can be found for just about any nasty term imaginable.

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**Author:** ![whoisreadingthis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b782af/32.png) [@whoisreadingthis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whoisreadingthis)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/32 "2004-06-17T17:03:10Z")

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that’s like saying “your dick is all i care about!” … “i love you my sweet dick!”

some things are obviously absurd…

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/33 "2004-06-17T17:15:58Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> I’m trying to think of a way I can could my wife the C word which would allow me to retain the full health and functioning of my genitalia. I’m pretty sure it can’t be done.

Just say “I love you so much, my precious cunt from heaven.”  
Over the phone.

From Asia.

And don’t plan on coming back.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/34 "2004-06-17T17:36:35Z")

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Where I grew up, in the Massachusetts North Shore, I would hear the word “cunt” used affectionately. Girlfriends would call eachother a cunt in the same manner that guys would call eachother assholes. It’s an insult, but not really.

Of course, this doesn’t mean that the school president isn’t full of shit.

I like the idea of comparing the behavior of a school football team to a fraternity. The school should ask itself a question: If a fraternity did this, would we kick them off campus? If the answer is yes, then they should be held to the same standard.

At my college, several Fraternities and Sororities were kicked off campus for doing things that weren’t nearly as bad as the crap that the football team pulled. They have a different standard from regular students at most schools, I would imagine.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/35 "2004-06-18T00:10:35Z")

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> [@Jimmy Chitwood](#):
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> How about, when allegations of rape come to light, not trying to deflect questions by saying “Katie was not only a girl, she was terrible” as if her kicking ability had something to do with it?

As long as we’re playing “How about”, how about just a teeeeny tiny bit of accuracy since that isn’t even remotely what happened. :rolleyes:

When asked about the allegations of rape, the coach said that the first he’d ever heard of it is when she suddenly decided to go public recently (from the time of the interview). The only complaint he’d heard while she was in the program was one incident where Katie’s father told him that there was an improper comment and he addressed it with the player.

About 6 minutes later in the interview, he was asked how the other players felt about having her on the team, he responded with a quote that’s includes what **Jimmy** quoted, but strangely, the quote, when not truncated, is much less sexist that the out-of-context snippet that **Jimmy** has repeated.

In the interview, a reporter asks how the team felt about Katie being on team and the coach says more-or-less that they weren’t thrilled. The reporter asks “Because of her ability?” and he responds “Well, it was obvious that Katie was not very good. She was awful. Y’know what guys do? They respect your ability. I mean, you can be 90 years old but if you can go out there and play, they’ll respect you. Katie was a girl and not only that, she was terrible.”

A few seconds later, a reporter asks if the coach believes if her lack of ability would be any justification for Katie’s alleged treatment and the coach answers “No, absolutely not. No one should be treated that way.”

In other words, he was _not_ “trying to deflect questions”, he directly answered a question honestly about her (obvious) lack of ability, was honest enough to say that the guys resented having an incompetent player on the team and, in addition, said that it “absolutely” would not be justified to treat her that way. The horror.

Wanna see for yourself? [Here’s](http://www.9news.com/includes/buildasx.aspx?fn=barnett2-17-4.wmv&sp=http://bc1.liquidviewer.com/9newskusa/dotcom.wmv) the actual video of the interview. Watch it and see if he says _anything_ like **Jimmy** ’s fake quote about how it’s ok to rape her because she was an incompetent. (It’s a long interview, but the “a girl, and not only that, she was terrible” quote comes about 12 minutes in.

If that link doesn’t work, [this one will](http://www.9news.com/storyfull.aspx?storyid=24489). Just click on the 5 p.m. Feb. 17, 2004 video.

On the other hand, since (IIRC) Betsy Hoffman was the one who suspended the coach on the basis of the phoney accusation that **Jimmy** repeated, I’m delighted to see her hoist by her own petard. When she suspended him, she said something like “I know he didn’t actually say that it was ok to allegedly rape her since she was a rotten player, but we’ve got our appearances to consider” (_very_ paraphrased quote). So, seeing her squirm over almost exactly the same situation, (She was responding to a question by one of the _plaintiff’s_ attornies and what’s she gonna say? “Yup. It’s harassment and I’ve just blown our defense in this lawsuit, haven’t I?” :dubious: ) is giving me a pleasant sense of schadenfreude.

I don’t care much about football and I loathe Boulder and CSU just on general principles, but I hate seeing Barnett railroaded with the phoney quote above.

Fenris

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/36 "2004-06-18T00:34:09Z")

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> [@MinniePurl](#):
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> [C-Word Flak Leaves Hoffman in Tears](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5231668/)

It’s a shame that American print media is so often unwilling to use vulgarities when they are relevant to the story.

“ **Cunt Flap Leaves Hoffman in Tears** ” is a _much_ better headline.

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**Author:** ![furlibusea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@furlibusea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furlibusea)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/37 "2004-06-18T01:11:38Z")

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CU has always had a bizzare relationship to football. When I went there the team was horrible. We had one win the whole year I was in the marching band. At the same time the library was in serious danger of loosing acredidation. That year they increased our student fees to cover some project for the football team but didn’t do anything for the library.

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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/38 "2004-06-18T09:38:29Z")

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> [@whoisreadingthis](#):
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> that’s like saying “your dick is all i care about!” … “i love you my sweet dick!”
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> some things are obviously absurd…

Why is that absurd?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/39 "2004-06-18T10:49:49Z")

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I can aver from my near-photographic memory of books I read, from the day that I snuck _Lady Chatterly’s Lover_ out of my parents’ room and read it cover to cover, that ‘cunt’ is used in there in a rather…romantic manner.

It still left me feeling rather oogy, as did the entire book before and after that point. I was fifteen, what d’ye expect?

Oh, and I almost never use the word. I certainly don’t use it to speak of the body part, but I haven’t really found a slang word I _like_ for it. They all sound either foul or infantile to me. _shrugs_ But I HAVE been known to use it as a form of very harsh invective.

See, for me, you got your jerks, and then your assholes, and then your bastards, your rat bastards, your _fucking_ rat bastards, and then, ladies and gentlemen, the almighty cunt.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-my-sweet-c-nt/250765/40 "2004-06-18T11:06:02Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> It’s a shame that American print media is so often unwilling to use vulgarities when they are relevant to the story.
> 
> “ **Cunt Flap Leaves Hoffman in Tears** ” is a _much_ better headline.

Joke highly appreicated.

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