# "I love you." "What?" "I love you." "WHAT?" "I LOVE YOU!" "I KNOW!" (Han & Leia are back)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 6, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153 "2013-03-06T04:14:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/21 "2013-03-06T22:06:11Z")

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> [@Mrs.Cake](#):
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> Where did this idea that Harrison Ford aged well and Carrie Fisher didn’t come from? He’s a 70 year old man who looks 70. Carrie Fisher is a 57 year old woman who looks 57. They are being asked to play characters of that age, and probably neither will be hugely central to the plot, more in the background, or there to pass the baton. It’s been a long time since I was an active fan, and I think it could be mildy interesting, like throwing old Spock into the ST reboot both as a hand-off and tip of the hat to old fans.

Fischer has had problems with drug abuse and depression since she was in the original films, and it rather shows (most notably in her vacillating weight). Plus its the movies, people tend to have higher expectations for peoples appearances.

That said, I vaguely recall seeing Fischer in something a year or so ago, and she seemed to look better then she did earlier in the decade, and wikipedia seems to indicate she’s been off the drugs since 2005.

Certainly they’ve both aged better then poor Mark Hamil

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/22 "2013-03-06T22:11:09Z")

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I really wish that none of them were going to be in it. I was looking forward to a fresh take on the franchise. I don’t need to see a 70-year-old Han Solo.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/23 "2013-03-06T22:12:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Q: Disney is going to continue the Star Wars saga, producing movies set to hit theaters starting in 2015. Can you confirm whether you’ll reprise the role of Princess Leia?
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> A: Yes.

Technically, all Carrie Fisher confirmed is that she can confirm information.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/24 "2013-03-06T22:19:15Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Fischer… Fischer

No _c_. [Fisher](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000402/bio).

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/25 "2013-03-06T22:39:54Z")

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When was that IMDB photo taken? She looks pretty good to me.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/26 "2013-03-06T22:45:23Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> When was that IMDB photo taken? She looks pretty good to me.

According to the credit on [that photo](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3201341696/nm0000402), 2007.

This appears to be a [fairly recent](http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1274105.1361914636!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/carrie27f-1-web.jpg) (if more candid) photo of her.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/27 "2013-03-06T22:54:18Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> I was hoping for a reboot not more of the same ol’ same ol’.

You were hoping for something called “Episode VII” to be a reboot?

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/28 "2013-03-07T00:15:51Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> The script for the first one was being worked on for some time by the writer Michael Arndt before it was announced last October, and the entire trilogy has a treatment written up. They’ve scheduled release for 2015, so they have to start shooting sometime this year if they stick to the usual 18 month post production schedule.

Well, that makes me feel a little better. Thanks.

> [@Airk](#):
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> Sorry; This is one thing you’re NOT getting. As far as all the reports are concerned, everything canon is still canon, they’re just adding a LOT MORE of it over the next decade or so.

Well, damn.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/29 "2013-03-07T03:51:29Z")

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Am I correct in assuming they’re going to use the already-written books for the movies? 'cause I was never a big Star Wars BOOKS fan, but even I know enough about the storyline to know that it seemed pretty cool, worth seeing in film, and a lot of other people are huge fanst of…that one guy, who wrote those books about the Solo kids and Mara Jade and all that.

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**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/30 "2013-03-07T03:58:07Z")

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According to [this news report,](http://social.entertainment.msn.com/movies/blogs/paralleluniverse-blog.aspx?feat=fa3578ee-0301-4ae7-9878-254fe4334795) Carrie Fisher was “only joking” about returning.

> [@](#):
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> Asked if she was coming back, Fisher said, “Yes,” and even offered her own idea of what Leia would be like now: “Elderly. She’s in an intergalactic old folks’ home. I just think she would be just like she was before, only slower and less inclined to be up for the big battle.”
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> That last part clearly sounds like she was kidding, but the media took that single “yes” and made headlines around it – except that a rep for Fisher told CNN that the actress “was joking” about that too

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/31 "2013-03-07T04:31:49Z")

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> [@Taomist](#):
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> Am I correct in assuming they’re going to use the already-written books for the movies?

No, you are not correct. In fact it’s possible that all the post _Return of the Jedi_ “canon” that was established in the books and comics, which were reasonably consistent and carefully overseen, and sometimes suggested by George Lucas himself, will be completely ignored. Nothing has been given away on what the story is about, when it takes place\*, or who it involves. There are a lot of assumptions being made from casual comments by various insiders that have not even been slightly confirmed in any way, including the casting of the original actors. Apart from the people inside Disney directly affected by the creation of these films, nobody has a clue and all suggestions of story, cast, and details of shooting should be taken with a bucketload of salt.

[Here](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ihsJoDtzx5xQJqLK--3Xdw9pXfJQ), for example, is the first official confirmation of anything about the Star Wars sequels that has been released this year, and that is that other stand-alone movies outside the planned trilogy will also be made. It was heavily speculated on, and unofficial comments had been made a couple of times, but this confirms it.

\*_There is a period of time where none of the Expanded Universe has tread yet, which is the era of when Han Leia and Luke are the ages the actors are now, in their 50s. That may mean the established canon will not be tread on. But then it’s equally likely it will be trashed._

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**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/32 "2013-03-07T22:52:30Z")

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Which for me, raises one very important question: what the fuck is Lucas doing near this project? I thought we were promised that he was going to be staying well away from the whole thing. Heck, even he kinda sounded like he didn’t want to do it, because we hurt his feelings.

Anyway, story is [here](http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/george-lucas-confirms-negotiations-for-mark-hamill-carrie-fisher-harrison-ford-for-star-wars-episode-7-20130307). Aside from annoyance that George is poking his big ol’ fro in again, I’m neutral on this. One the one hand, having the new flicks be about Han and Leia’s kids is an obvious direction to take these movies, and if you’re going to do that, having Luke, Han and Leia in the movie is a no-brainer. On the other hand, having the new flicks be about Han and Leia’s kids is an obvious direction to take these movies.

(Also, please, if it’s going to be the kids, make them grownups. The kids in the EU books were sufficiently annoying to make little Ani seem an adorable scamp.)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/33 "2013-03-07T22:54:13Z")

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Is the new film going to be CGI?

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/34 "2013-03-07T22:55:57Z")

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Ah cool, thanks for the update. It will be interesting, and I’m looking forward to it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/35 "2013-03-07T23:00:03Z")

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I just saw the announcement that there will be a new Star Wars movie-with Carrie Fisher.  
Is this true? She isn’t very youthful looking…anybody know what the story will be like? (Star Wars nursing home?)  
Anyway, is the new film targeted at adults who saw the original?

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/36 "2013-03-07T23:16:43Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> I just saw the announcement that there will be a new Star Wars movie-with Carrie Fisher.  
> Is this true? She isn’t very youthful looking..anybody know what the story will be like? (Star Wars nursing home?)  
> Anyway, is the new film targeted at adults who saw the original?

You’re a little late to the party. George Lucas sold the franchise to Disney, so most fans are afraid it’ll be Jar-Jar, Jar-Jar and more Jar-Jar! As for Fisher, Lucas recently let slip in a magazine interview that negotiations were almost complete with not only her, but Hamill & Ford as well. I can only imagine they’d be cameos though…

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/37 "2013-03-07T23:20:50Z")

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Merged three threads about this news.

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**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/38 "2013-03-07T23:39:31Z")

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> [@LawMonkey](#):
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> Which for me, raises one very important question: what the fuck is Lucas doing near this project? I thought we were promised that he was going to be staying well away from the whole thing. Heck, even he kinda sounded like he didn’t want to do it, because we hurt his feelings.

He was kept on as a creative consultant: the one thing that gives me hope that they are trying to stay in canon, at least, for now.

Also, I’m not entirely sure a thread where Fisher was joking should have been merged with a thread where Lucas was not.

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**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/39 "2013-03-08T00:00:31Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Never tell him the odds! Besides, a deposit from the royal bank account is more than enough to convince Ford to come back. Someone else can dig up the link, but he’s said as much publicly.

And here I thought there was more to him than money.

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-love-you-what-i-love-you-what-i-love-you-i-know-han-leia-are-back/652153/40 "2013-03-08T01:32:21Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> … and the entire trilogy has a treatment written up. .

It does?

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