# I’m going to pit this man who assaulted the Mexican President and all men like him **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 6, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631 "2025-11-06T16:12:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/1 "2025-11-06T16:12:43Z")
This video just makes me physically ill. > **[Mexican women outraged by public sexual assault on their president](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/06/mexicans-outraged-by-public-sex-assault-on-president)** > > ‘Humiliating’ groping of Claudia Sheinbaum by drunken man prompts widespread condemnation ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/2 "2025-11-06T16:17:38Z")
I would not have been able to maintain my composure. ---
**Author:** ![We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/We_re_wolves_not_werewolves)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/3 "2025-11-06T16:31:52Z")
I’m surprised members of the public could get that close to her. Where was her security detail? ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/4 "2025-11-06T16:39:50Z")
Her response seemed like one of a woman who has been though this many many many times before. She was ultimately gentle in her response, because I’m sure that is what she has had to do many many many times before. And I wonder if in the back of her mind she thought “I am president and I cannot punch a man while cameras are rolling.” ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/5 "2025-11-06T16:45:45Z")
I read that she regularly gets out among the people like that. I hope she does not have the same fate as that Swedish PM ([Olof Palme](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Olof_Palme)). On the positive side, altho sorry she had to go thru it, the video of this incident shows clearly what millions of women around the world have to endure regularly, so anyone brushing this shit aside as “boys will be boys” or “she was asking for it” or “he didn’t mean anything” can go fuck right off! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/6 "2025-11-06T16:58:00Z")
The US-style extreme security cordon is totally _not_ how the rest of the world treats their senior politicians. A bodyguard or two standing somewhere sorta nearby is by far the norm. Not an armored convoy of a dozen vehicles and 200 armed soldiers in civvies protected by auto-cannon hidden inside SUVs, snipers on every roof, and helicopters overhead. ---
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/7 "2025-11-06T17:03:17Z")
I don’t think any standing Mexican President has ever been assassinated either, which probably explains why they don’t go so hard core on presidential protection. (Edited to add: standing president. I think a candidate was offed on the campaign trail once and another after his presidency.) ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/8 "2025-11-06T17:07:36Z")
And really.. I can’t say I’ve ever been _so_ drunk that I thought that assaulting someone like a head of state would be a good idea, or that I was unaware that their security detail would likely beat the beejezus out of me if I so much as got too close. Then again, I haven’t been so drunk that I’ve ever groped anyone without consent either. That guy’s just a colossal, entitled asshole who thought he was just fine with groping her, because she’s a woman, and that somehow in his mind trumped her being _the President of Mexico_. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/9 "2025-11-06T17:36:32Z")
Another way to look at it was that was the single most insulting thing he could think to do to the President. In other countries malcontents throw a shoe or a cream pie. Still shitty behavior, but culturally common shitty behavior ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/10 "2025-11-06T18:30:49Z")
> [@Dorjan](#): > > I don’t think any standing Mexican President has ever been assassinated either, which probably explains why they don’t go so hard core on presidential protection. You’d think they’d offer better protection, seeing how often politicians on the local level are victims of violence. [https://www.npr.org/2025/11/03/g-s1-96298/mexican-mayor-killed-during-day-of-the-dead](https://www.npr.org/2025/11/03/g-s1-96298/mexican-mayor-killed-during-day-of-the-dead) ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/11 "2025-11-06T18:53:30Z")
If the security detail was so low-key, is it possible he was so drunk he didn’t realize who she was? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/12 "2025-11-06T19:26:26Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > If the security detail was so low-key, is it possible he was so drunk he didn’t realize who she was? - No. [discourse] ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/13 "2025-11-06T19:33:12Z")
It shouldn’t even matter. If the general reaction to any woman being unwittingly groped were outrage, we’d all be a lot better off. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/14 "2025-11-06T20:13:35Z")
Damn. Barely 10 posts before the “He was so drunk he didn’t know what we was doing” excuse. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/15 "2025-11-06T20:27:37Z")
I posted about this incident in the Evil MFers Omnibus Thread. Absolutely disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/16 "2025-11-06T20:39:36Z")
Not excusing, it’s contemptible behavior no matter who the victim is. Obviously he knew _what_ he was doing, but it’s funny to imagine he might not have realized who he was doing it to, and the look on his face when he wakes up in jail and has the situation explained to him. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/17 "2025-11-06T21:49:43Z")
This is the culture Trump crudely expounded on in the TMZ video. It’s ingrained in some men that’s it’s just ok to paw at, grope and push in on women. Simply because they could and felt it their _right._ Will it ever stop? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/18 "2025-11-06T21:52:29Z")
True. Not every shitfaced-drunk sexually-assaulting asshole is subsequently confronted with the realization that they are now a **globally reviled** sexually-assaulting asshole who will forever be primarily known for this asshole behavior. (Unless he ups his ante in the future by actually assassinating somebody or something, I suppose.) ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/19 "2025-11-06T21:53:48Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > This is the culture Trump crudely expounded on in the TMZ video. Actually it reminded me more of the Spanish soccer president that kissed a player on the lips. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631/20 "2025-11-06T21:55:21Z")
Are you sure he’ll be globally “reviled”. I’d like to be a fly on a wall in primarily men areas. I bet the jokes are a’plenty. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-going-to-pit-this-man-who-assaulted-the-mexican-president-and-all-men-like-him/1024631.md?page=2)