# I’m rooting for Chris Christie’s run for President (He has dropped from the race Jan 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 10, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302 "2023-06-10T22:04:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jungian_camisole1/32/3646_2.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole1)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/61 "2023-06-15T01:09:19Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Yes, I’m sure I’m being suckered by political charm, but, dammit, I like the guy. As do I. However, there is one issue that is very important to me. After the Supreme judges stated that it was “precedent”, then turned around and tossed it, I will never, ever trust a Republican politician on abortion again. I’ll happily go to a baseball game with him. Even buy him a hot dog. He will not get my vote. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/62 "2023-06-15T11:53:58Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > The last thing I want is the GOP to be saved, it is a violent racist movement. I don’t want is saved any more than I want Al Qaeda saved. Well, as I said in my later post: > [@Horatius](#): > > Given my druthers, I’d like to see the party just dissolve in a puff on infighting, and be replaced by something completely new, but with the entrenched two party system, where that means “Democrats and Republicans”, there’s really no way that will happen. **Some** party will be the legal heirs of this current mess, and be called “Republicans”, no matter what. How we make that party a responsible and sensible party is the tricky question. When I talk about “saving” the GOP, what I really mean is, someone else conducts a hostile take-over of the party, akin to what the Tea Party guys pulled a decade ago, but re-makes it as something worth voting for. As they say, this won’t be your Dad’s Republican Party. If you can find a way to swap in a whole different party instead, by all means, do that. The problem I see is that, as above, “The Republican Party” is woven into the _de facto_ system of government in the US. Whatever comes next has to have at least a fig leaf of being the legal heirs of the current party, even if they’ve been entirely remade. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/63 "2023-06-15T12:08:16Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > “The Republican Party” is woven into the _de facto_ system of government in the US. Yup! > Article IV, Section 4: > The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government … Or so I’ve heard idiots (NOT you here!) argue. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/64 "2023-06-15T12:11:02Z")
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/65 "2023-06-15T12:12:22Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > The last thing I want is the GOP to be saved, it is a violent racist movement. I don’t want is saved any more than I want Al Qaeda saved. > [@Monty](#): > > Agreed. Today’s GOP has not only jumped the shark, it’s leap-frogged over the whole shiver. They are, as I’ve mentioned before (and, perhaps, others may have said so, also) nothing but a domestic terrorist organization. **Modnote** : These posts are wildly off-topic for a thread on Chris Christie running. Please keep these potential hijack posts to more appropriate threads. I’m hiding both of your posts. * * * * * * To everyone else, **let’s avoid the side conversation about Trumpism** unless it is in keeping with a Chris Christie run for President. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/66 "2023-06-15T12:29:08Z")
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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/67 "2023-06-15T12:30:01Z")
By running, Christie is performing an important function. Mind you, he’s not going to get the nomination, but he’s now saying out loud the things we all know to be true about the current front runner of the GOP. Up to now the number of higher profile voices in the GOP openly criticizing Trump have been very very limited. Mitt Romney…maybe a handful of others who’ve been openly critical of specific actions of Trump - and then always careful to hedge that criticism. I know it sounds milquetoast to hear Pence say about the indictment yesterday that he “cannot defend what has been alleged”, but recognize it as being the baby step in the right direction that it is. Over time, especially as Trump’s legal woes continue to grow (and they _will_ continue to), we can hope others within the GOP take a cue from Christie and feel emboldened enough to start taking shots at Trump themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/68 "2023-06-15T16:58:12Z")
“Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good” as they say. I know Christie has made some bad calls in the past, including supporting Trump. And I see the scandals, though they are trivial in the current climate. But he’s plain-spoken and is bringing back facts and an acknowledgement of reality to the right-wing discussion. That’s a big deal, as sad as that is to say. Right now, we only have one political party and one lunatic cult. I’d also not 100% count him out. Sure, he’s _very unlikely_ to progress much further, but a lot can change in a year. And if we ever get to a point where Christie and Dee Santis are debating 1 on 1, I would say the latter is toast. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/69 "2023-06-15T17:25:35Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > I’d also not 100% count him out. Sure, he’s _very unlikely_ to progress much further, but a lot can change in a year. And if we ever get to a point where Christie and Dee Santis are debating 1 on 1, I would say the latter is toast. If most everyone else in the field is on the trump bandwagon (promising a pardon and whatnot), and he’s the leading voice of reason, and then there’s some seismic shift in popular thinking (maybe donald pees himself at sentencing or something, or dies, forcing ron to take up the mantle) I could see him pulling this out. And, I mean, _c’mon_, a return to a GOP front runner that late night comedians can lampoon for trivial reasons (“Something happened, and then Christie said he was hungry! He’s got a weight problem.”)? It’d be so refreshing. (As for the trumpers who might scuttle this? Well, methinks a lot are boomers who are soon to shuffle off this mortal coil. And the rest can go slither back into the crevices of society from whence they came - only trump can inspire them to actually show up to vote in seizable numbers; he’s to deplorables what Obama was to minority voters) ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/70 "2023-06-15T17:45:14Z")
There’s a non-zero chance that Biden loses the Presidency in 2024. I would even suggest that that possibility is large. So to the extent that anyone might dislike Christie, the alternative to Biden is almost certainly going to be a Republican and that means that you have to consider the **other options**. Here are the Republicans (likely) on offer: - Donald Trump - Chris Christie - Tim Scott - Mike Pence Personally, I was hopeful for Scott - based on his performance during some hearings that I’ve seen - but he has decided to throw the DOJ under the bus, in Trump’s favor. Politically expedient as may be, that destabilizes the country by endorsing conspiracy theories. Between Christie or Pence, I’d take Christie. And, let’s not forget that Christie gave us **Christopher Wray**. If he gave us an FBI director who, by all accounts, seems to be an honest and upstanding guy - willing to take out his own boss - then I think we can trust that for as crooked as Christie might be, he still understands the principal of not wrecking the place that he himself lives in. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/71 "2023-06-16T10:33:46Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I think we can trust that for as crooked as Christie might be, he still understands the principal of not wrecking the place that he himself lives in. Which is pretty sad as a point of promise when we’re talking about President. Once again, I’m dumbfounded at how we got to this point. ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/72 "2023-06-16T13:04:02Z")
> **Off-topic Trumpism again, Hidden by WE?** > > > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > > > Trump may die, but will Trumpism? > > Oh, he’ll definitely die at some point. Who do you think he is, Jesus Christ or something? > > Trumpism without Trump is just extreme rightwing fanaticism, which we’ve always had with us. They might continue to control the GOP for a few more years beyond his death, but I can’t see them ever winning the presidency while they do. There’s way too many rightwing nutjobs in this country, but still not enough to win an honest election. > > I hope. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/73 "2023-06-16T13:56:25Z")
> **Off-topic Trumpism again, Hidden by WE?** > > > [@slicedalone](#): > > > > Oh, he’ll definitely die at some point. Who do you think he is, Jesus Christ or something? > > I think “X may die” is just an expression, not implying uncertainty. > “We may die, but our ideas will live on” > > > [@slicedalone](#): > > > > Trumpism without Trump is just extreme rightwing fanaticism, which we’ve always had with us. They might continue to control the GOP for a few more years beyond his death, but I can’t see them ever winning the presidency while they do. There’s way too many rightwing nutjobs in this country, but still not enough to win an honest election. > > > > I hope. > > I think “Trumpism” represents a _set_ of phenomena, some will die with Trump, some we’re stuck with for the foreseeable future. > > The crucial thing that will stick around is the gaslighting and disinformation. It’s something that was already starting to take root around the world, but Trump and FOX showed how brazen you can be in the new media landscape. People self-select the news and memes that they want to see, reality has very little to do with it. > That’s not going to end. > > And secondly there is very little discussion of policy. The wack-a-doodle views of the MAGA wing are all you see on right _and left wing_ media. In the latter case, we’re shaking our heads at their abhorrent and false statements, but in both cases it’s because of what drives clicks / views. > > I accept that I’m part of the problem with this. I enjoy the “Can you believe what Trump / MTG / Boebert said today!?” show, just like I click on “Flat earth debunked”. > I like to stay informed on real politics, so I watch sober analysis and discussion _as well_, but the guilty pleasure eats up a lot of my time. ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/74 "2023-06-16T14:25:18Z")
I just remembered W\_E?'s warning about discussing Trumpism in this thread, so let’s bring it back to Christie, ok? ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/75 "2023-06-16T14:30:34Z")
Sorry, I had a few windows open and just forgot that this was the Christie thread ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/76 "2023-06-16T16:27:58Z")
I don’t know why but I forgot DeSantis in my list. Despite his headline grabbing activities, which might seem like he’s ruining Florida and thus breaking my law against wrecking the place that you yourself live in, I feel like DeSantis tailors his actions to have smaller effects than they initially seem like and running a [two-faced](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3675278-biden-desantis-project-unity-in-response-to-hurricane-ian/) [game](https://www.wral.com/story/fact-check-did-desantis-exempt-disney-from-anti-discrimination-law/20851153/) with one for public exposure and another to actually do his job to manage things. But, he has also thrown in with endorsing conspiracy theories AND endorsed unconstitutional, counter-Republican policies and laws, to “own the libs” and make headlines. And even if he believes that the courts will shoot those down - saving him from having to do the hard work of protecting the Constitution - that’s not much of an endorsement. There’s also the gerrymander that he rammed through. The job of a government official is to work for all of his electorate. If he’s actively disempowering slews of them, to maintain his own base of power, then he’s actively pissing on his own job description. It’s like a firefighter having a hobby of arson, or a police officer selling drugs that he stole from the evidence locker. It’s a direct attack on the job that you’ve sworn to do, itself. Christie is still the better pick. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/77 "2023-06-21T01:01:47Z")
Woohoo! Big CC is surging in (some) polls! He’s nearly at double digits (in New Hampshire). > [@](#): > > Chris Christie enjoyed a surge in support Friday as a second straight New Hampshire poll showed him gaining ground with voters after he announced his 2024 presidential campaign by fiercely attacking former President Donald Trump. > > [Christie scored 9% support](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-christie-poll-bounce-in-poll-after-attacking-trump-20230615-y6bzdgjl6ra7javpgcr2qw7bla-story.html) in the poll of the first-in-the-nation Republican primary state — within striking distance of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who [drew just 13%](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-desantis-defends-changing-pronunciation-of-name-20230602-ctzqx67idreu5jp3dnveh56vre-story.html)and has slumped in recent polls. [https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-christie-surge-support-second-new-hampshire-poll-20230616-ylwcm5mkyfftnpzmimmwc54ng4-story.html](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-christie-surge-support-second-new-hampshire-poll-20230616-ylwcm5mkyfftnpzmimmwc54ng4-story.html) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/78 "2023-08-17T13:44:05Z")
Yes, a bit of good news for him: > **[Christie sees path in New Hampshire to beat Trump](https://www.aol.com/christie-sees-path-hampshire-beat-100000959.html)** > > Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s (R) campaign is honing in on New Hampshire as one of the most important states for helping him defeat former President Trump in the GOP presidential primary. While Trump maintains a wide lead over the rest of... ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/79 "2023-11-05T19:05:36Z")
It seems the MAGA crowd does not like Christie. To his credit, he pushed back. I’m not sure how well that will work for him. - [Christie to pro-Trump crowd in Florida: ‘Your anger against the truth is reprehensible’](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4293651-christie-pro-trump-crowd-your-anger-against-the-truth-is-reprehensible/) > Republican presidential candidate Chris Christie was booed while walking on stage at the Florida Republican Party’s Freedom Summit event on Saturday. > > “Now look, every one of those boos, everyone one of those cat calls, everyone one of those yells will not … solve one problem we face in this country,” [Christie said](https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5091714/chris-christie-crowd-your-anger-truth-reprehensible). “Your anger against the truth is reprehensible.” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302/80 "2024-01-10T22:04:57Z")
😭 Root no more: > **[Chris Christie to drop his presidential bid](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/10/chris-christie-republican-presidential-race-00134875)** > > Nikki Haley is expected to benefit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-m-rooting-for-chris-christie-s-run-for-president-he-has-dropped-from-the-race-jan-2024/985302.md?page=5)