# I made a girl cry, and a possibly crazy chick likes me. Story at 11. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 16, 2008, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171 "2008-10-16T07:37:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dosipede](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dosipede](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dosipede)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/41 "2008-10-16T23:33:31Z")
Stay away from the crazy – man, this is so much easier said than done. See, we have to pound it into two brains, one of which has a one-track mind. Some guys thrive on the crazy, though. I had a friend who couldn’t get enough of the psycho-chick drama. “The crazier, the better,” he told me. The girls he slept with, I wouldn’t fuck with Mick Jagger’s dick. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/42 "2008-10-16T23:33:52Z")
I was taking a walk when a jarring thought hit me. I just met a “Nice Girl” (the quotes are important). The fast and pushy flirting, the constant favors, the cloying and jealous tendencies, the stubborn insistence that she was just being nice and friendly, the awkward and guilt-inducing feelings, the all around feeling of being creeped out… Is this how I have come across to women sometimes in the past? Oh God. I actually feel slightly ill. This experience has done more for my understanding of the ‘nice guy’ vs nice guy issue than all 10 pages of that other thread. Ugh… ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/43 "2008-10-16T23:59:42Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > I was taking a walk when a jarring thought hit me. I just met a “Nice Girl” No. No, you did not. You met someone who’s bugfuck insane, and is trying to drag you along for a trip for two through the Tunnel of Why Don’t you LOVE MEEEEEEEEEE ---
**Author:** ![pbbth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/44 "2008-10-17T00:15:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Postyed by **Autolycus** > \* > I was taking a walk when a jarring thought hit me. I just met a “Nice Girl” (the quotes are important). The fast and pushy flirting, the constant favors, the cloying and jealous tendencies, the stubborn insistence that she was just being nice and friendly, the awkward and guilt-inducing feelings, the all around feeling of being creeped out… > > Is this how I have come across to women sometimes in the past? Oh God. I actually feel slightly ill. > > This experience has done more for my understanding of the ‘nice guy’ vs nice guy issue than all 10 pages of that other thread. Ugh..\* YES! I’m glad you now understand. All the men in the other thread who insisted that women were making up the Nice Guy Syndrome need to read this thread too! The problem is that the first time you run into this kind of thing you don’t recognize it for what it is and it takes dealing with the nutty a time or two before the realization dawns on you. Hopefully this experience will make it easier for you to identify any Nice Guy behavior in yourself and change it for the better. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/45 "2008-10-17T00:49:16Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > I was taking a walk when a jarring thought hit me. I just met a “Nice Girl” (the quotes are important). The fast and pushy flirting, the constant favors, the cloying and jealous tendencies, the stubborn insistence that she was just being nice and friendly, the awkward and guilt-inducing feelings, the all around feeling of being creeped out… > > Is this how I have come across to women sometimes in the past? Oh God. I actually feel slightly ill. > > This experience has done more for my understanding of the ‘nice guy’ vs nice guy issue than all 10 pages of that other thread. Ugh.. I’m glad you posted this **Auto** , because it’s exactly what I was thinking before I was even finished with your OP. I have no way of knowing if you’re really as bad as this girl, but I can guarantee you that you’ve reminded other women of “Nice Guys” who really were that bad. Of course this girl, being a girl, is probably blaming her bad luck with men on being physically unattractive. She may be out there on some other message board now complaining about how she never has any luck with guys, they seem interested at first but ignore her as soon as some hottie in a red dress walks by, and why oh why can’t she meet a man who will appreciate for her wonderful personality. Oh yeah, the girl in the red dress probably really did think she looked bad. (And was probably also a bit drunk.) I’d guess she was having a “fat moment” and was regretting wearing such a tight dress. You insulted a stranger for no reason, stop trying to blame her for it. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/46 "2008-10-17T00:52:37Z")
Ditto gr. 10. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/47 "2008-10-17T00:52:39Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > She says we’re just friends, but then she says “the ball is in my court.” Ugh. I’ll stop here. Pick up the ball. Put it away. Line the court with claymore, placing the "this side towards enemy"side pointing outward. Leave the court & don’t go back. If you hear an explosion behind you, it’ll be the perfect ending. Like _‘Mad Max’_… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/48 "2008-10-17T01:28:17Z")
> [@Dosipede](#): > > Some guys thrive on the crazy, though. I had a friend who couldn’t get enough of the psycho-chick drama. “The crazier, the better,” he told me. The girls he slept with, I wouldn’t fuck with Mick Jagger’s dick. I used to work with this 400 pound drug freak drunk. _Who worked as a Security Guard._ One time he hooked up with this girl and got lucky. She invites him to come back the next day. He shows up and she freaks out, claims not to know him and threatens to call the cops. He leaves. Three days later she’s calling him all hot to get together again. Turns out she’d been off her meds. The whole thing just turned him on more and made him want her all that much more. :eek: No, man. Look at the guys who do this sort of thing. They’re just as wacked out as the women they go for. Leave the psychos for the psychos. I wish I had (ex-wife), and I certainly will in the future. Learned my lesson, believe me. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/49 "2008-10-17T01:46:46Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > Hey, only half of that is a deal-breaker in my book 🆒 So you prefer younger women, eh? 😉 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/50 "2008-10-17T02:33:46Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > No. No, you did not. You met someone who’s bugfuck insane, and is trying to drag you along for a trip for two through the Tunnel of Why Don’t you LOVE MEEEEEEEEEE Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/51 "2008-10-17T02:49:13Z")
> [@pbbth](#): > > Secondly, you had mentioned before trying to drink less and I somehow don’t see that being possible in a bar situation. You might want to find a place to hang out that is less alcohol-friendly. I’m not saying you’ve got a problem because I don’t know you well enough to make that assessment but you’ve mentioned wanting to cut back. Start cutting back now. Alcohol makes you think about sticking your dick in the crazy when you know you shouldn’t otherwise. Remember that. I wholly agree. Spend more time at low-alcohol places. Like church services and Bible study sessions. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/52 "2008-10-17T02:59:00Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > I wholly agree. Spend more time at low-alcohol places. Like church services and Bible study sessions. I’ve met way more dangerous people at churches and Bible studies than at bars… of course, that’s a whole different topic. ---
**Author:** ![Kaio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/53 "2008-10-18T02:55:51Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Ditto gr. 10. More like an 11-year-old. I am all agog that he got _jealous_ of her flirting with other guys in the bar when by that point he didn’t even _like_ her. That’s some serious WTF right there. ---
**Author:** ![Nikki\_Tikki\_Tavi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3da27b/32.png) [@Nikki\_Tikki\_Tavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nikki_Tikki_Tavi)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/54 "2008-10-18T14:31:30Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > Something about me attracts drama.. Um yeah, your willingness to entertain it. :dubious: Dude, stop giving crazy people your time and they’ll stop demanding it. It seems like you enjoy the “drama” of this kind of stuff. It’s easy enough to avoid if you don’t. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/55 "2008-10-18T19:34:47Z")
I’m a Christian and I’ve met more people who extol the values I admire outside of church than inside. Just sayin’. You’re both giving mixed signals to each other. She by acting inappropriately jealous, you by inviting her up to your home. She by openly flirting and then asking for other men’s numbers in front of you; You by admitting you’re not attracted to her, then telling her that you were jealous when she gave her number out to strangers. (And why WERE you jealous?) If you’re not attracted to someone who’s into you, then the nice thing to do is to tell her up front that there’s no future there. Don’t invite her out again, don’t tell her you’re jealous when she flirts with other men, don’t do anything that is dishonest. As far as the drunk, gorgeous girl goes, it’s important that you learn that drunk people are overly emotional. Engage strange, drunk people in conversations at your peril. ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/56 "2008-10-18T19:36:52Z")
> [@Scissorjack](#): > > They have blogs now for this kind of thing. They also have message boards. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/57 "2008-10-19T01:24:29Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > (And why WERE you jealous?) To be honest, I have no idea. I know I shouldn’t have been, but I was. In any case, it’s over now. I’ve let it go, so it would be nice if dopers could do the same. ---
**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/58 "2008-10-19T01:41:57Z")
I agree…run, run, run away. And you need to brush up on the Hot/Crazy Scale: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYrZSjpiIK4](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYrZSjpiIK4) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/59 "2008-10-19T03:04:59Z")
Voice of experience chiming in. I had quite a few crazy chicks fall for me way back when. In fact, I really seemed to attract the type. I am here to tell you that becoming involved with a crazy chick ends badly. Very badly sometimes. Very, very badly. You cannot change them. You cannot cure them. That said, if you’ve never been involved with a crazy chick, it could be good for you to do so once, just so you’ll know you definitely want to avoid them in the future. Call it homeopathy for the soul. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171/60 "2008-10-19T04:18:49Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > No matter how wild the crazy chick might be in bed, remember two things: > > 1. She’s crazy. > 2. She’s ugly. > No amount of venus butterflies, whirling emus, or flaming fruitchews will counterbalance those two things. I love the fact that **Scumpup** is the voice of reason here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-made-a-girl-cry-and-a-possibly-crazy-chick-likes-me-story-at-11/468171.md?page=2)