# I may actually go insane with anger **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 18, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848 "2012-08-18T03:04:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/181 "2012-08-19T06:17:15Z")
> [@misterW](#): > > Wait, so the dog wasn’t even hit now? Have you ever been hit by a steel object moving even 5mph? We’re talking about a small size dog (with the associated small size bones). If the dog had made contact with the car while it was moving, it really should have been injured. Alternately, take your hand and put it on a tire moving at 5mph. You’ll either get burned or have your hand ‘grabbed’ by the rubber of the tire and get a twisted wrist. Clearly, the car didn’t actually drive over any portion of the dog as that would have been crushed and needed a vet as a minimum. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/182 "2012-08-19T06:25:42Z")
> [@ducati](#): > > BTW, dog is fine; got rolled under the middle, not squished by tire, otherwise I’d be typing from jail. Either the dog was not hit, or Jaysus made another miracle, for when a dog is run over and hit by an SUV, the dog gets injured. My bet’s on the dog not having been hit. Either the vehicle passed over it without hitting it, or the vehicle passed by it without hitting it. Either way, the vehicle did not hit the dog. Ducati screamed at and chased down a driver who successfully avoided hitting his dog. ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/183 "2012-08-19T06:40:39Z")
> [@ducati](#): > > The cops looked at each other, told me to call them next time instead of chasing someone, and to have a good day. They then went to give LAN and WTD the news that they could be charged with giving a false statement to the cops and terroristic threats. Don’t know what happened down there. For those worried that the poster is a member of law enforcement, this statement seem pretty clear that he is not. Based on statements in the linked thread (ask an uzi owner?) he may be an armed security guard (re: the ‘off duty’ statement). But I really doubt that you’ll ever have to worry about this person carrying a legitimate law enforcement badge. I don’t think that he could pass the temperament testing. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/184 "2012-08-19T06:45:01Z")
I wouldn’t hazard a guess one way or the other, so let’s ask him. Ducati, what is your job? Are you a police officer, and if so, what is your rank and what are your duties? ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/185 "2012-08-19T06:51:12Z")
Here is a reference to a study regarding cervical injury at 2.5mph and 5mph From the link: ( [http://www.expressnetairlines.com/566/automobile-accident-results-whiplash-trauma](http://www.expressnetairlines.com/566/automobile-accident-results-whiplash-trauma) ) > [@](#): > > In this study, human volunteer subjects underwent rear-impact collisions in which the crash velocities were set at 2.5 and 5 miles per hour. Of particular significance is these volunteers were first screened for any pre-existing spinal conditions, then seated in optimal positions with headrests positioned correctly, and finally were aware of the impending crash. In real-life accidents it is exceptionally rare to have all of these conditions in the occupant’s favour. For this reason, the results of this study are especially compelling. Under laboratory conditions designed to minimize injury, a significant 29% of occupants were found to have sustained injury at a crash velocity of 2.5 mph, and fully 38% sustained injury at 5 mph. 29% injury rate while seated in a properly position seat and hit from behind. Now, imagine a small dog with no protection traveling at an angle to the direction of impact. This is why I find it hard to believe that dog made any contact with the vehicle. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/186 "2012-08-19T10:08:14Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > I wouldn’t hazard a guess one way or the other, so let’s ask him. Ducati, what is your job? Are you a police officer, and if so, what is your rank and what are your duties? He said in another thread that he is a retired police officer with a decades long career, he is not currently an officer. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/187 "2012-08-19T11:20:29Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > Police your goddamned dogs, you ignorant scumbag. Take responsibility for _your_ property, _your_ actions, _your_ attitude. This is unacceptable. Do not call people names in IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/188 "2012-08-19T11:23:41Z")
Gusnspot I’m giving you a warning for trolling. You’ve made it quite clear you’re provoking people in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/189 "2012-08-19T11:31:17Z")
This is for everybody: the the people above aren’t the only ones posting inappropriately in this thread but I didn’t see anything else this blatant. I was not online much yesterday and did not catch the post reports until this morning, otherwise I might have issued some reminders to settle down. As it is, please remember that this thread is not in the pit and you cannot insult at will. If there is anything more productive that can be said, go right ahead and say it. If all anybody has to say is insults, trolling and word-twisting, the thread’s gonna get closed. Thanks, Ellen ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/190 "2012-08-19T12:42:35Z")
> [@grude](#): > > He said in another thread that he is a retired police officer with a decades long career, he is not currently an officer. Thanks for clearing that up. ---
**Author:** ![nogravity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@nogravity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nogravity)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/191 "2012-08-19T12:47:49Z")
I have a feeling that the op is **that guy** in the neighborhood and when the driver realized who it was, with all the screaming and flailing of arms, beat it out of there lest any machine guns get pulled out. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/192 "2012-08-19T13:06:22Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > 1. the way you’d be embarrassed by seeing a grown man who’s drunk pissing in his pants. Piss? I was washin my hands and the sink sploded. And who’s the idiot that shit in my pants? ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/193 "2012-08-19T13:17:13Z")
> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > \ If there is anything more productive that can be said, go right ahead and say it. If all anybody has to say is insults, trolling and word-twisting, the thread’s gonna get closed. _The noise a lawn-chair makes when it’s packed up_ ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/194 "2012-08-19T15:21:34Z")
One of the things that I relish about this board is that, no matter how ridiculous or crazy or just flat ass dumb a post may be, at least four posters will concoct a defense for it. You can describe yourself as being totally out of control emotionally, as having both untrained and poorly contained dogs, going batshit on a stranger and speeding recklessly through a residental neighborhood and a set number of posters will trot out justifications for your behavior anyway. Gotta love the Dope! ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/195 "2012-08-19T16:07:17Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > I expect that it is not a crime to not report not hitting a dog in Georgia, although of course I may be mistaken. > > Remember that the driver did not hit the dog. I wasn’t aware we had definitively established that. > [@Enkel](#): > > Have you ever been hit by a steel object moving even 5mph? We’re talking about a small size dog (with the associated small size bones). If the dog had made contact with the car while it was moving, it really should have been injured. Alternately, take your hand and put it on a tire moving at 5mph. You’ll either get burned or have your hand ‘grabbed’ by the rubber of the tire and get a twisted wrist. Clearly, the car didn’t actually drive over any portion of the dog as that would have been crushed and needed a vet as a minimum. I’m sure Google can pull up stories of dogs who were just under a car and were OK. And how would the driver know if she hit the dog or not? > [@jlzania](#): > > One of the things that I relish about this board is that, no matter how ridiculous or crazy or just flat ass dumb a post may be, at least four posters will concoct a defense for it. > > You can describe yourself as being totally out of control emotionally, as having both untrained and poorly contained dogs, going batshit on a stranger and speeding recklessly through a residental neighborhood and a set number of posters will trot out justifications for your behavior anyway. Gotta love the Dope! I’m not defending the OP’s crazy. I’m saying the other person was in the wrong as well. ---
**Author:** ![brainstall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@brainstall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brainstall)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/196 "2012-08-19T16:48:37Z")
Many years ago, my Great Dane ran out the front door and across the quiet, inner city residential street I lived on. She got hit by one of those guys who has to go as fast as possible between the stop signs that are on every corner. From my front porch I saw the car coming, my dog dashing into the road, the collision, and then my dog bolted and ran away. My first reaction wasn’t rage at the driver, it was to race after my dog and find her. I didn’t care about buddy who hit my dog, I just cared about finding my dog. (Driver did stop and help me find my dog and did follow up to make sure she was ok.) My dog was in the road. My fault, not the driver’s. Something about the OP’s first post makes me think he was pissed more about the driver possibly damaging some object of his than about the actual dog being hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/197 "2012-08-19T16:58:45Z")
> [@misterW](#): > > So you wouldn’t be upset that someone callously ran over your dog, so long as the dog wasn’t seriously hurt? He indicated in his post that the person made little attempt to avoid it, and may have done it on purpose. But that wouldn’t bother you just a little? Of course I would be upset, but my priority would be making sure the dog was okay, not exacting retribution. > [@](#): > > Don’t you think this person should be held responsible for their actions? Or at least know that sort of thing is very unacceptable? If someone has done something serious, you call the cops, you don’t go chasing after them yourself. Funny, that’s exactly what the cops told him. > [@](#): > > He sounds very pissed off. On the verge of a bit out of control. But you wouldn’t be raging if someone ran over your dog in the manner described? I have never “raged” under any circumstances, certainly not to the extent to cause someone else to flee. Civilization demands that regardless of how you feel, thatyou keep your public actions in check. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/198 "2012-08-19T18:16:47Z")
By the way, for those saying he couldn’t afford an invisible fence or professional dog training, etc. I just checked on [gunbroker.com](http://gunbroker.com). There’s no excuse for him to not have an invisible fence–they seem to run around $1,500.00, and let’s say that it doesn’t include the cost of installation, so let’s be generous and say that everything–the training, the installation, the product itself–the whole works in total—is $2500.00 (and it’s certainly less). Assuming our OP keeps his guns in good condition, An M-249 in semi-auto went for $13,000. In full auto? Best guess, $50,000? A full auto BAR didn’t meet the reserve price of $28,000, so the owner wanted more than that. M-16? One just sold for $18,000. Assuming he was extremely cash-poor, he could sell one (1) gun and not only get that invisible fence, he could wire up his house with more security than the Batcave AND have money left over to take a nice vacation. So…money is not an issue in the slightest here. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/199 "2012-08-19T18:26:48Z")
> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > This is for everybody: the the people above aren’t the only ones posting inappropriately in this thread but I didn’t see anything else this blatant. I was not online much yesterday and did not catch the post reports until this morning, otherwise I might have issued some reminders to settle down. > > As it is, please remember that this thread is not in the pit and you cannot insult at will. If there is anything more productive that can be said, go right ahead and say it. If all anybody has to say is insults, trolling and word-twisting, the thread’s gonna get closed. > > Thanks, > Ellen Rather than closing it, perhaps move it to the Pit. I haven’t posted here because my comments would be inappropriate for anywhere else. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/200 "2012-08-19T18:28:49Z")
Those invisible fences are pretty great, btw. There’s a guy in my neighborhood who has one. Every time I run past his yard, his dog goes _mental_, barking its head off at me. Then, every single time, just as I’m about to go out of range, the dog makes this silent-but-deadly run at me, and every time, it stops short, right where the invisible fence boundary must be. As a pedestrian and motorist, I say yay for invisible fences. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848.md?page=11)