# I may actually go insane with anger **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 18, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848 "2012-08-18T03:04:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![kwimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@kwimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kwimby)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/461 "2012-08-25T18:51:49Z")
> [@Moonlitherial](#): > > White people are rightfully more fearful of black people?? And you believe that statements like this prove you’re **NOT** racist. I never said I wasn’t racist. Despite trying not to be I probably am pretty goddamn racist. But I’m working on it. I think it was my father’s fault. Can we call the thread totally and completely hijacked now? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/462 "2012-08-25T18:53:31Z")
> [@kwimby](#): > > No kidding. As soon as the Left Hand of Dorkness bottles his secret for how to rationalize emotions we can all just go down to the corner drugstore and buy our perfect world for the going price. Dude, there’s no secret. If you have a problem with it, if you can’t control yourself, take an anger management class. Tell us where you live and I’ll find a class in your community for you. ---
**Author:** ![kwimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@kwimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kwimby)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/463 "2012-08-25T19:02:16Z")
Ducati, looks like dorkness has this all sussed. Maybe you should PM him for follow-up… ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/464 "2012-08-25T19:35:09Z")
Emotional control isn’t ‘dorky’. Rage isn’t manly. The move “_To Kill A Mockingbird_” is my cite. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/465 "2012-08-25T19:37:08Z")
> [@kwimby](#): > > Ducati, looks like dorkness has this all sussed. Maybe you should PM him for follow-up… Again, this is a secret in the way that “put a period at the end of a sentence” is a secret. If you haven’t figured it out, that says everything about you and nothing about me. ---
**Author:** ![Molotok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Molotok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Molotok)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/466 "2012-08-25T19:40:19Z")
I may go insane with insanity… **LHoD** , HELP ME!!1! ---
**Author:** ![kwimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@kwimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kwimby)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/467 "2012-08-25T20:36:29Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > Emotional control isn’t ‘dorky’. Rage isn’t manly. > The move “_To Kill A Mockingbird_” is my cite. OK Capt obvious, I agree 100% Now can you offer any constructive advice on how to deal with it, or did I detect a hint of cynicism instilled by those anger management classes? ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/468 "2012-08-25T21:36:57Z")
More advice than I can possibly type. A good first step would be an Anger Management class, and if there is a mood issue related to anxiety or depression, cognitive therapy and/or a medication evaluation would be great first steps. Some of my students dropped the classes after starting antidepressants, saying the meds had essentially cured their anger and irritability problems. The total idiots guides and ‘for dummies’ both, I believe, have anger management books in the series, although I’ve not vetted them personally (I wrote my own curriculum). The most important first step is to change your self talk about anger from a passive, “It made me angry” construction to “I upset myself about” construction. You can’t “manage” a problem you that you won’t own. That’s where a group helps, because you get to see all of the other group members telling stories about getting agitated over things that wouldn’t bother you, and eventually a lightbulb goes off, with any luck, and you realize the things you are triggered by aren’t universal. Also, if alcohol seems to be a co-factor, you gotta get sober. I focused on trying to help my students not get upset in the first place, because once the ‘fight/flight’ process starts, we _all_ get stupid. I hope you live somewhere with some good resources to help with this. ---
**Author:** ![kwimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@kwimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kwimby)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/469 "2012-08-25T22:04:32Z")
Well thanks for that Truman! That’s a real breath of fresh air, and I do mean that. That certainly is a “possibly” related issue here, and even if it is, that one aspect is nowhere near as simple as some might suggest. Regardless of whether or not the OP actually has anger issues (only his family and friends can really know for sure - it doesn’t sound like it to me, just a possible complicating factor) and in case some of you got confused by the volume and intensity of innuendo and speculation thus far, let’s just review a few of the facts regarding this topic: 1. Through no fault of his own, OP’s dog gets out and run over by careless driver who flees the scene. 2. Bullshit ensues. 3. SDMB posters spend 10 pages demonzing OP. 4. Thread devolves into a debate about the hot-button race sub-topic with associated ad-hominem attacks proceeding apace. Looks pretty typical to me. So what if all the plethora of more or less related “facts” were not initially presented? The OP had every right to be angry, upset and not comprehensively all-encompassing with his post. Would it hurt you to ask a question? Who wouldn’t try to find the person who just ran over their dog? Who was the the total asshole here who started the chain of events? It wasn’t the lansdscapers who left the gate open, and it was not the OP. Is there any imaginable topic that won’t be used for a springboard to rant about pet PREJUDICES, be it guns, race, cops, security cameras, whatever? Sheesh. Some of you people are total douchebags. :rolleyes: No off you go to disagree with yourselves vigorously! ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/470 "2012-08-25T22:12:48Z")
> [@kwimby](#): > > Who was the the total asshole here who started the chain of events? **ducati** , of course. Dog owners are ultimately responsible for their animals’ behavior in all circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/471 "2012-08-26T02:19:11Z")
> [@kwimby](#): > > Would it hurt you to ask a question? Who wouldn’t try to find the person who just ran over their dog? I wouldn’t, particularly not if my dog wasn’t even actually run over. But even if the dog had been injured or killed, I don’t see what good it would do to go chasing after the driver. If I believed a crime had been committed then I’d call the police, but I’m pretty sure it’s not against the law to hit a dog that runs out in front of your car. > [@](#): > > Who was the the total asshole here who started the chain of events? It wasn’t the lansdscapers who left the gate open, and it was not the OP. No, it was the OP. It was his dog that was running loose, and he’s the one who decided to play vigilante rather than being happy that his dog was fine after a frightening near miss. The driver of the car just happened to have the bad luck to be coming down the street at the time the dog got out and, once again, _didn’t even hit the dog_. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/472 "2012-08-26T11:28:41Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > I could not get why you were saying it to me. Well, in all honesty, I don’t think people use creed as a term of insult very often. They can use it to demonise an opponent (Obama is a Muslim!). In fact, the only time I see religion being used to refer exaggeratedly to character is in the example I gave (in a tone deaf manner, I guess). > [@kwimby](#): > > Very well may be entirely appropriate priorities for someone living in that neighborhood. Perhaps, if he’s a freedom fighter in the state of Libria. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/473 "2012-08-26T12:22:38Z")
> [@kwimby](#): > > Sheesh. Some of you people are total douchebags. :rolleyes: > > No off you go to disagree with yourselves vigorously! I’m not sure where the troll factory is, exactly, but it’s breaking records for production this year and I feel sorry for all the people who live downwind from it. ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/474 "2012-08-26T13:03:38Z")
> [@kwimby](#): > > Maybe “more” fearful? Than say a similarly-sized person of lighter skin tone? > > Yeah - because of all the racial bullshit. :rolleyes: I don’t know-considering the recent spat of white guys shooting complete strangers in public places, I think I’m more comfortable sitting with the black and brown guys at the movies. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/475 "2012-08-26T15:44:15Z")
Yeah, we really should have a thread keeping a running tally… ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/476 "2012-08-26T15:54:05Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I’m not sure where the troll factory is, exactly, but it’s breaking records for production this year and I feel sorry for all the people who live downwind from it. July 2012: The Month That Keeps On Giving ---
**Author:** ![kwimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@kwimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kwimby)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/477 "2012-08-26T18:08:59Z")
> [@jlzania](#): > > I don’t know-considering the recent spat of white guys shooting complete strangers in public places,… It seems like that to you because you’ve only recently, very briefly been paying attention. I understand getting a number of you dedicated liberal ADHD-types to form a fully coherent train of though is a bit akin to herding cats, but I’ll continue trying, so please bear with me… [http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/08/26/empire-state-building-shooter-warning-signs-of-workplace-killer.html](http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/08/26/empire-state-building-shooter-warning-signs-of-workplace-killer.html) > [@](#): > > Cases of workplace violence, which have been tracked by government agencies since the 1980s, have steadily declined since peaking in the early 1990s Maybe I’d be more inclined to see your touchy-feelie, pacifist POV if you examined the root cause of this psychotic anti-social behavior instead of flailing away ineffectively off the social and political cliffs of things like gun control and anger management at every turn. This shit has been going on forever and it’s actually better than it was in recent history. Anger is a perfectly normal, often quite appropriate human emotion. Every person who displays it is not some fucked up weirdo. I guess since the topic makes the fucked up weirdos posting on it feel better about themselves, maybe it’s a wash. > [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > July 2012: The Month That Keeps On Giving Get used to it bitch, because I ain’t going anywhere. 😃 Judging by this and a few other threads I’ve perused on this messageboard it looks like the only thing alot of people around agree on is trolls that don’t agree with you. Good to see I am inspiring you thusly! Maybe someday I can get promoted to senior toll. (sigh) ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/478 "2012-08-26T18:23:05Z")
> [@jlzania](#): > > I don’t know-considering the recent spat of white guys shooting complete strangers in public places, I think I’m more comfortable sitting with the black and brown guys at the movies. > [@kwimby](#): > > It seems like that to you because you’ve only recently, very briefly been paying attention. I understand getting a number of you dedicated liberal ADHD-types to form a fully coherent train of though is a bit akin to herding cats, but I’ll continue trying, so please bear with me… > > [http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/08/26/empire-state-building-shooter-warning-signs-of-workplace-killer.html](http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/08/26/empire-state-building-shooter-warning-signs-of-workplace-killer.html)… > > > [@](#): > > > > Cases of workplace violence, which have been tracked by government agencies since the 1980s, have steadily declined since peaking in the early 1990s > > … Jeebus, are you even awake when you make these responses? Since when does “guys shooting complete strangers in public places” have _anything at all_ to do with workplace violence? ---
**Author:** ![kwimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@kwimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kwimby)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/479 "2012-08-26T18:29:17Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Since when does “guys shooting complete strangers in public places” have _anything at all_ to do with workplace violence? You don’t see a connection between shooting coworkers (who in most cases are complete strangers) or the cross-connect between the Empire State shooter yesterday shooting a coworker in a public place? You must be not think much after you wake up in the morning. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/480 "2012-08-26T20:01:40Z")
> [@kwimby](#): > > You don’t see a connection between shooting coworkers (who in most cases are complete strangers) or the cross-connect between the Empire State shooter yesterday shooting a coworker in a public place? > > You must be not think much after you wake up in the morning. :rolleyes: Has there been a flurry of workplace mass shootings lately? No. There certainly has been one of mass shootings in public places, though the NYC one doesn’t count either because the disgruntled guy only shot the one guy he was aiming at. The police shot all the rest. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848.md?page=25)