# I may actually go insane with anger

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 18, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848 "2012-08-18T03:04:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/161 "2012-08-19T04:21:11Z")

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Screech of brakes. I can’t recall the last time I heard a screech of brakes, what with ABS and traction control being the norm for so many years, let alone the screech of brakes of a car on a residential dead-end street.

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**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/162 "2012-08-19T04:22:09Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> And all you people are allowed guns? Jesus. :smack:

_Machine_ guns, in the case of the OP.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/163 "2012-08-19T04:28:50Z")

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> [@Beastly\_Rotter](#):
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> _Machine_ guns, in the case of the OP.

Its like looking into a badly written soap opera. A country that is great in so many ways being so off the rails in others. Glad that I don’t have to worry about folks having personal arsenals like they do across the border.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/164 "2012-08-19T04:36:38Z")

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ducati sounds like a worse than average neighbor. Surveillance cameras, raging temper, accosting someone in their home, then calling 911 when the accosted person comes to HIS home, huge big-dick “i’d have killed him if he did X, Y, or Z” ego, puffy chested bad neighbor.

Your dog was fine. The lady who didn’t hit your dog knew she didn’t hit your dog when she drove off. You drove to someone’s house and confronted them in their own house. You dialed it up to 11 for a situation that didn’t even need to be a 4. Bad, bad neighbor.

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/165 "2012-08-19T04:36:57Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> It depends. If I hit your dog after clearly slowing down to avoid hitting it, stop the car presumably to get out and check, would you come running at me screaming racial comments while frothing at the mouth?
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> Because, if you would, yeah, I would run.  
> On the other hand, if you came out and said “Oh my god! Thanks for stopping! Can you help me see if Mr. Fluffy is ok?”, no, I wouldn’t.
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> Looks really aren’t relevant to the issue.

Then why all the worry about the color of the driver?

If it was my critter and I was standing there, I got a $1000 dollars says you would not not completely stop and that you would run … You all make ducati look better & better with your lines drawn in the sand where you would not ever stand IRL. what a bunch of nothings many of you are.

With each passing post you make you leave the words of the OP farther & farther behind and just make up stuff that was not stated. Stupidly fought, not in this thread … You don’t even have the excuse of ignorance, That is just a lack of knowledge of a subject, you all are in an incurable condition…

he he he Keep typing , this is fun…

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**Author:** ![misterW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@misterW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misterW)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/166 "2012-08-19T04:38:44Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Screech of brakes. I can’t recall the last time I heard a screech of brakes, what with ABS and traction control being the norm for so many years, let alone the screech of brakes of a car on a residential dead-end street.

Well, normally one doesn’t slam on the brakes on a residential street; this was an unusual circumstance. Interesting point though; I hadn’t thought of that. I can assure you that some cars are out there without ABS (I’ve never owned one that has ABS, for example), but I wonder what the percentage is? I may have to concede that the absence of brakes screeching does not necessarily mean the person wasn’t stopping quickly.

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/167 "2012-08-19T04:44:12Z")

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Posts 161, 162, 163 & 164… Coming so fast with made up information that … Well, there are no words for this much stupidity …

Hey Muffin, I’m still waiting on you to go all Rambo snarky on the silly quote I did in big red letters for you…

he he he

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**Author:** ![misterW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@misterW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misterW)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/168 "2012-08-19T04:49:48Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> ducati sounds like a worse than average neighbor. Surveillance cameras, raging temper, accosting someone in their home, then calling 911 when the accosted person comes to HIS home, huge big-dick “i’d have killed him if he did X, Y, or Z” ego, puffy chested bad neighbor.
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> Your dog was fine. The lady who didn’t hit your dog knew she didn’t hit your dog when she drove off. You drove to someone’s house and confronted them in their own house. You dialed it up to 11 for a situation that didn’t even need to be a 4. Bad, bad neighbor.

I love it. I’ll have to use this technique in the future when responding to an OP seeking opinions on a situation that occurred: just change the facts of the story that were presented, then I can make any response I want. “So your dog viciously attacks a woman’s car, then you scream racial epithets at her while firing off rounds with a shotgun? God you’re a jerk.”

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/169 "2012-08-19T04:52:25Z")

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> [@misterW](#):
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> I love it. I’ll have to use this technique in the future when responding to an OP seeking opinions on a situation that occurred

You just did. Have a look at the red text in Fenris’ post.

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**Author:** ![misterW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@misterW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misterW)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/170 "2012-08-19T04:55:56Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> You just did. Have a look at the red text in Fenris’ post.

And look at my response.

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**Author:** ![misterW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@misterW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misterW)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/171 "2012-08-19T04:57:15Z")

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Check out the same post of his, by the way, for a perfect example of what I am describing.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/172 "2012-08-19T04:57:28Z")

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> [@misterW](#):
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> And look at my response.

You want folks to ignore the facts and to start imagining things that do not rise out of the facts. That’s nuts. That’s the sort of thinking that I would expect of an anti-vax campaigner, or a conspiracy nut, or a tin-foil hat type, all basing their theories on smoke and mirrors and imagination, rather than on the established facts.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/173 "2012-08-19T05:01:40Z")

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> [@misterW](#):
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> Screamed at her to do what? Why did you stop your sentence there? Let me finish it for you: " …screaming at her to stop."
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> Now, let me ask you: If he was screaming at her to stop, does that imply the car was a) moving, or b) standing still?

There is no need for us to guess when the car drove away because the OP says this did not happen until he ran screaming onto the lawn. If this seems inconsistent with his claim that he was screaming at her to stop then I see two possible explanations: he wasn’t behaving rationally at the time, and/or he’s not telling the whole truth about what happened now.

Speaking of people who have problems giving an accurate account of their own behavior:

> [@misterW](#):
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> I never denied that she came to a stop.

Oh really?

> [@misterW](#):
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> The person made little attempt to stop and may have even purposefully run the dog over, according to the OP.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/174 "2012-08-19T05:10:59Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> ducati sounds like a worse than average neighbor. Surveillance cameras, raging temper, accosting someone in their home, then calling 911 when the accosted person comes to HIS home, huge big-dick “i’d have killed him if he did X, Y, or Z” ego, puffy chested bad neighbor.
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> Your dog was fine. The lady who didn’t hit your dog knew she didn’t hit your dog when she drove off. You drove to someone’s house and confronted them in their own house. You dialed it up to 11 for a situation that didn’t even need to be a 4. Bad, bad neighbor.

This encapsulates things nicely. Plus, if she was in an SUV and the dog didn’t go under a wheel (as per the OP that only some people seem to understand), how could something so tall hit a dachshund anywhere else? As mentioned before, it’s too little to graze the undercarriage of the vehicle. Possible optical illusion, indeed.

And if that were the case, but the lady was concerned she only _might_ have hit the poor little dog, I can certainly understand why she drove off if some maniac then came running and screaming at her. Dear Og.

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**Author:** ![misterW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@misterW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misterW)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/175 "2012-08-19T05:13:57Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> There is no need for us to guess when the car drove away because the OP says this did not happen until he ran screaming onto the lawn. If this seems inconsistent with his claim that he was screaming at her to stop then I see two possible explanations: he wasn’t behaving rationally at the time, and/or he’s not telling the whole truth about what happened now.

I think there is a third option you ought to consider. Seriously, is it really that far fetched that the woman was driving away? Especially considering that the OP ran out yelling stop? I mean, that seems like the first thing that would come do mind with that description. And people do hits and runs on animals all the time. You will probably find many on this thread who see no problem in doing that. And the OP is certainly fired up about something. Ignore the fact that you don’t like the OP for a second. It is in fact possible that someone with all sorts of undesirable qualities is sometimes not the one at fault.

> [@](#):
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> Speaking of people who have problems giving an accurate account of their own behavior:

Oh really?  
[/QUOTE]

Made little attempt to stop BEFORE SHE HIT THE DOG, was the meaning there. Sorry if that confused you; thought it was implied with what I was talking about.

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**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/176 "2012-08-19T05:50:21Z")

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> [@Farmer\_Jane](#):
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> I don’t have any pets. I never have. The ones I had as a kid really belonged to someone else in the family.
> 
> But this is a board with a new cat or dog thread every week. I guess I was just surprised. What would YOU do if someone hit your dog and kept going?

Well, as a pet owner I wouldn’t like it. I would prefer if they stopped and helped me assist an injured pet.

But as a driver I know you are not obligated to stop when you hit a dog, a squirrel, a cat, a bunny, etc. It is not a hit and run. You are not leaving the scene of the crime. You hit an animal that was running at large, which they’re not supposed to be doing. Of course the wild ones don’t know that, and the cats don’t care.

If you hit a person or smash into someone’s property (like a mailbox), then you are supposed to stop, and if you don’t, you are leaving the scene of a crime.

Now, if as a driver I hit a dog or cat I would stop if I could do so safely, and I’ve done it. I’ve even stood there while the person whose pet it was cussed me out, which was not easy. But if some guy came running at me and yelling, I’d drive off, too.

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**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/177 "2012-08-19T05:56:05Z")

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[I do know you can’t leave your dog stranded on a mountain](http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21337462/man-who-left-dog-colorado-mountain-faces-animal) in Colorado, and you shouldn’t [hit a dog and keep going](http://www.greenwichtime.com/policereports/article/Police-Woman-charged-after-hitting-dog-with-car-3625846.php) in CT, and [don’t do it](http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/crime/Woman-charged-for-hitting-dog-leaving) in Dayton, NY, either.

Per the OP, it sounds like it’s also a crime in Atlanta.

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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/178 "2012-08-19T06:08:26Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> So was the dog actually even hit by the car at all, or not? If it wasn’t hit by a tire, and they’re what, 8-12" tall, what else on a car is low enough to touch him?

SUV ground clearance is typically around 7-9 inches. It’s possible the dog, being small, crouched then was rolled by the wind if the SUV was moving fast enough. It’s not likely that the dog was physically touched by the SUV unless the driver did manage to come to a near halt. Had the dog contacted an SUV moving at any speed, there really would have been injuries.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/179 "2012-08-19T06:09:35Z")

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> [@misterW](#):
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> I think there is a third option you ought to consider. Seriously, is it really that far fetched that the woman was driving away? Especially considering that the OP ran out yelling stop? I mean, that seems like the first thing that would come do mind with that description.

No, that possibility is covered by the “not telling the whole truth” option, because the OP says the car did not drive away until **ducati** ran outside yelling.

> [@](#):
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> Made little attempt to stop BEFORE SHE HIT THE DOG, was the meaning there. Sorry if that confused you; thought it was implied with what I was talking about.

Since the dog wasn’t actually hit, she did in fact stop before hitting the dog.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-actually-go-insane-with-anger/631848/180 "2012-08-19T06:16:50Z")

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> [@Farmer\_Jane](#):
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> [I do know you can’t leave your dog stranded on a mountain](http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21337462/man-who-left-dog-colorado-mountain-faces-animal) in Colorado, and you shouldn’t [hit a dog and keep going](http://www.greenwichtime.com/policereports/article/Police-Woman-charged-after-hitting-dog-with-car-3625846.php) in CT, and [don’t do it](http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/crime/Woman-charged-for-hitting-dog-leaving) in Dayton, NY, either.
> 
> Per the OP, it sounds like it’s also a crime in Atlanta.

I expect that it is not a crime to not report not hitting a dog in Georgia, although of course I may be mistaken.

Remember that the driver did not hit the dog.

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