# I may have discovered Trump's voter base

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 12, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370 "2016-10-12T23:12:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370/1 "2016-10-12T23:12:15Z")

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I went out today for a nice country drive, to look at autumn leaves, and it seemed that every single farmhouse had a big old Trump/Pence sign in the front yard.

:eek:

Otherwise, around here I’m seeing more Gary Johnson signs than anything else put together. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370/2 "2016-10-12T23:17:03Z")

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“You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.”

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370/3 "2016-10-12T23:20:10Z")

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Mr. Farmer may have a Trump sign on the barn, but when Mrs. Farmer goes into the voting booth, she’ll be pulling the lever for Clinton, I bet.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370/4 "2016-10-12T23:50:47Z")

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I also posted this on Facebook, and one of my FBFs, a dyed-in-the-wool Republican who is also a never-married, moderate income single mom who lives in a rural area, replied, “The dems have RUINED agriculture.”

😕

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370/5 "2016-10-13T00:44:19Z")

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California is a solid blue state, of course, but if you drive through the Central Valley from L.A. to S.F. you go through hundreds of miles of farmland. This is very Republican territory, and there are signs for Trump all over. From what I gather from my recent drive through there, the big issue is that farmers are convinced that Dems stole their water and gave it to the cities.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370/6 "2016-10-13T00:48:24Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> California is a solid blue state, of course, but if you drive through the Central Valley from L.A. to S.F. you go through hundreds of miles of farmland. This is very Republican territory, and there are signs for Trump all over. From what I gather from my recent drive through there, the big issue is that farmers are convinced that Dems stole their water and gave it to the cities.

Did this Monday. They replaced all the “Nancy Pelosi is responsible for the water crisis” signs with Trump signs.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370/7 "2016-10-13T01:32:51Z")

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My sister is a Rabid Republican. When the “Grab 'em by the p\*\*\*y” tape was exposed I asked how she would explain to her daughters and granddaughters that she voted for Trump. She laughed and said that her daughters and granddaughters intended to vote for Trump. All of them are college grads, well educated and intelligent human beings. I can only hope she was yanking my chain; if she was telling the truth then all is lost and civilization as we know it is doomed. I’m in despair.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370/8 "2016-10-13T01:38:46Z")

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This is not really a debate or discussion.

Off to The BBQ Pit.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370/9 "2016-10-13T02:13:45Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> California is a solid blue state, of course, but if you drive through the Central Valley from L.A. to S.F. you go through hundreds of miles of farmland. This is very Republican territory, and there are signs for Trump all over. From what I gather from my recent drive through there, the big issue is that farmers are convinced that Dems stole their water and gave it to the cities.

Yep.

The Guardian had a fascinating [story](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/09/donald-trump-bakersfield-california-ben-carson-laura-ingraham) the other day about support for Trump in Bakersfield.

> [@](#):
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> The Republican nominee could grope nuns, beat a pony, steal children’s lollipops, star in a porn video and still, it seems, be mayor of Bakersfield.
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> While party leaders across the country rescinded their support on Saturday, thousands of Trump loyalists made a show of defiance and devotion at a political jamboree in this Californian city.
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> The punditocracy was proclaiming Trump radioactive to female voters but Michelle Mills, 52, a budget director at California State University, Bakersfield, demurred. “I’ve heard a little about the video, but from the get-go I’ve been with Trump. We need those conservative business values in this country. We need change. And we need it quickly.”

Of course, none of this is a surprise, really, to anyone who pays any attention at all to California politics. People who have no clue about California love to portray the state as nothing but a haven for weed-smoking Haight-Ashbury hippies and chardonnay-sipping tech and entertainment industry liberals, but there has always been a strong streak of conservatism in the state, and that conservative tendency tends to get stronger as you head inland from the Pacific Ocean.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370/10 "2016-10-13T03:17:33Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> I also posted this on Facebook, and one of my FBFs, a dyed-in-the-wool Republican who is also a never-married, moderate income single mom who lives in a rural area, replied, “The dems have RUINED agriculture.”

Well, you know, Obama’s plot to supply tattooed urban radical lesbians with free farms.

“Take an organic carrot up the ass, Penis-Bearing Tool of the Ruling Patriarchy!”

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370/11 "2016-10-13T03:31:45Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> . . . and that conservative tendency tends to get stronger as you head inland from the Pacific Ocean.

If California is ever divided into five states, I hope it is done in bands from east to west. A very narrow band paralleling the coast, and another, slightly wider band to the east of that, etc. Each band running the whole north-south height of the state. The easternmost would be the thickest, because it has the lowest population density.

(I’m happy to live in the westernmost band…)

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370/12 "2016-10-13T05:51:59Z")

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> [@LouisB](#):
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> My sister is a Rabid Republican. When the “Grab 'em by the p\*\*\*y” tape was exposed I asked how she would explain to her daughters and granddaughters that she voted for Trump. She laughed and said that her daughters and granddaughters intended to vote for Trump. All of them are college grads, well educated and intelligent human beings. I can only hope she was yanking my chain; if she was telling the truth then all is lost and civilization as we know it is doomed. I’m in despair.

Seems a bit over dramatic just because people don’t think like you.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370/13 "2016-10-13T06:18:58Z")

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Oh. So, maybe we don’t call the suicide hotline in Florida? Could be somewhat exaggerated? Good catch, **octo**!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370/14 "2016-10-13T11:35:43Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Oh. So, maybe we don’t call the suicide hotline in Florida?

Wouldn’t help anyway… the lines are always jammed.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-may-have-discovered-trumps-voter-base/768370/15 "2016-10-13T11:49:36Z")

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Recent Cracked article about the rural/ urban divide.

> **[How Half Of America Lost Its F\*\*king Mind](https://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about)**
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> I'm going to explain the Donald Trump phenomenon in three movies. And then some text.
