# I Miss Ugly People on TV

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 6, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561 "2009-05-06T17:37:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![chrissysissystar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5e9695/32.png) [@chrissysissystar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrissysissystar)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/21 "2009-05-06T20:06:54Z")

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What about all three of the L&O incarnations? Or the CSIs?

While I find Vincent D’Onofrio, Eric Bogosian and Jeff Goldblum attractive, there are way more folks who would disagree with me.

While the CSIs themselves are, for the most part (COFF_NOTJorjaFox_COFF) attractive, their guest stars haven’t been, [Vince Vieluf](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0896735/), [Dayton Callie](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0130502/) and [Kim Coates](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0167649/) for example.

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**Author:** ![filling\_pages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@filling\_pages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filling_pages)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/22 "2009-05-06T20:41:59Z")

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> [@chrissysissystar](#):
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> What about all three of the L&O incarnations? Or the CSIs?

The only L&O I watch is SVU, and it’s stocked with hotties. I mean, Mariska Hargitay is the daughter of Jayne Mansfield and a former Mr. Universe! And I don’t think I have a friend who is attracted to men who doesn’t want to jump Christopher Meloni’s bones.

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/23 "2009-05-06T20:43:21Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> Check out “My Name is Earl.”
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> Except for Joy and Catalina, everybody is kinda funny looking. That show’s a riot!

Even then, many of the funny (or normal) looking people have had enough work done on their teeth to put a dentist’s kids through college.

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**Author:** ![chrissysissystar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5e9695/32.png) [@chrissysissystar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrissysissystar)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/24 "2009-05-06T20:47:44Z")

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> [@filling\_pages](#):
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> The only L&O I watch is SVU, and it’s stocked with hotties. I mean, Mariska Hargitay is the daughter of Jayne Mansfield and a former Mr. Universe! And I don’t think I have a friend who is attracted to men who doesn’t want to jump Christopher Meloni’s bones.

Point taken. Guess I should have qualified by saying that \*SVU \*is the only one I don’t watch.

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/25 "2009-05-06T20:48:02Z")

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> [@Kal](#):
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> Even then, many of the funny (or normal) looking people have had enough work done on their teeth to put a dentist’s kids through college.

That’s my complaint. Everybody on TV has perfect teeth that are blue-white. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/26 "2009-05-06T21:11:00Z")

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An old thread about this:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-438432.html](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-438432.html)

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/27 "2009-05-06T21:25:26Z")

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> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#):
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> In my opinion, every woman you mentioned (with the poss. exception of Kelly Kapoor) is more attractive than Pam, and Jan, Karen and Kelly the new character are light years beyond Pam, who while cute, seems to have a lot of men claiming she is a paper goods Goddess of some sort…

With regard to the characters rather than the actresses, I can understand Pam being considered much more attractive than most of the others because Jan, Kelly, and Angela are all kind of psycho.

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**Author:** ![Mahna\_Mahna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Mahna\_Mahna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahna_Mahna)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/28 "2009-05-06T21:32:28Z")

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> [@filling\_pages](#):
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> The only L&O I watch is SVU, and it’s stocked with hotties. I mean, Mariska Hargitay is the daughter of Jayne Mansfield and a former Mr. Universe! And I don’t think I have a friend who is attracted to men who doesn’t want to jump Christopher Meloni’s bones.

But on aside from Hargitay and Meloni, it’s not exactly a beauty pageant over at SVU. Ice T and Richard Belzer definitely qualify as “funny looking”, and Dann Florek is just average as far as I’m concerned.

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/29 "2009-05-06T21:39:39Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> With regard to the characters rather than the actresses, I can understand Pam being considered much more attractive than most of the others because Jan, Kelly, and Angela are all kind of psycho.

I certainly agree with you there.

As real life people, the woman who plays Jan is a stunner, and so is the actress who plays Karen, (blanking on her name) who is apparently Quincy Jones’ daughter.

As characters, Jan, Angela and Kelly are deeply unlikable.

Maybe some of my “meh” about the woman who plays Pam (again not sure of her name) comes from the couple of times I have seen her on Conan, Leno etc. where my perception is that she is quite full of herself, and seems to belive all of her newfound hype.

I find her reasonably attractive, but certainly she seems to garner a lot of attention despite being rather average, and again, because she seems a bit concieted in real life, it dosent help either.

(Of course I realise that she is not at home losing sleep worring about my opinion of her)

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/30 "2009-05-06T21:49:04Z")

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> [@appleciders](#):
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> I don’t know. Jim and Pam are both downright attractive, and any character introduced to be a love interest to a not-unattractive character is always quite attractive (Jan, Holly, Karen). Charles Miner isn’t unattractive, and Kelly (the new receptionist) is very attractive. Kelly Kapoor and Angela aren’t unattractive either.
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> The Office is better than many shows, I guess, but there’s still a blatant bias towards attractive people.

Attractive is such a subjective thing. I think Holly is “average” at best. Also, the new receptionist is very attractive?!?!? When they first showed her I recoiled and said “Ew!” out loud.

Average looking people (IMHO):  
[Jennifer Carpenter from Dexter](http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/369/00000351082006102105520bz6.jpg)  
[Jason Segel from How I Met Your Mother](http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/entertainment/08/04/16_jsegal_lgl.jpg)  
[Jim Parsons from Big Bang Theory](http://www.givememyremote.com/remote/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/jim-parsons.jpg)  
most people on the show 24  
[David Caruso of CSI Miami](http://boards.aetv.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/700000636-700003673-700121618-700004205/david_caruso.jpg)  
[Sandra Oh from Grey’s Anatomy](http://www.greysanatomyinsider.com/images/gallery/sandra-oh-pic.jpg)  
[Donald Trump](http://southerngent.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/donald-trump-picture-1.jpg)on any show he sticks his mug on

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/31 "2009-05-06T21:59:24Z")

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> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#):
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> Average looking people (IMHO):  
> [Jennifer Carpenter from Dexter](http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/369/00000351082006102105520bz6.jpg)

Did you ever see **Quarantine**? She plays the female lead and her hotness is a plot point before the zombies show up.

Although you’re right, in Dexter, she looks rather average. But in Quarantine, she was totally believable as the hot girl.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/32 "2009-05-06T22:00:58Z")

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Yep, saw it. I just don’t see her that way. That nose (hey, I have a big nose so I can say it!) and those eyes that are so far apart. I just don’t get it. Plus, she married Dexter! He’s cute!

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/33 "2009-05-06T22:24:43Z")

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Check out _The Unusuals_ before they pull it.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/34 "2009-05-06T22:34:27Z")

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I recall Fred Sanford saying about Esther (or another relative) I could dip her face in batter and make some gorilla cookies. What about Mr Belvedere, everyone was SO ugly on that show. But they all did the comedy quite well.

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**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/35 "2009-05-06T22:43:38Z")

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> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#):
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> Maybe some of my “meh” about the woman who plays Pam (again not sure of her name) comes from the couple of times I have seen her on Conan, Leno etc. where my perception is that she is quite full of herself, and seems to belive all of her newfound hype.
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> I find her reasonably attractive, but certainly she seems to garner a lot of attention despite being rather average, and again, because she seems a bit concieted in real life, it dosent help either.
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> (Of course I realise that she is not at home losing sleep worring about my opinion of her)

Weird. I’ve always gotten the impression that Jenna Fischer was one of the most level-headed, humble, and just plain _nice_ actors out there. I’ve seen a fair amount of behind-the-scenes stuff from “The Office,” and she’s always been very down to earth, and as a bonus, is every bit as adorkably witty in real life as her character is on the show. “Conceited” is probably the last word I would’ve used to describe her.

Fischer was also one of the first celebrity bloggers (in fact, many of her entries are written on-set, during the many many background shots the “Office” cast have to sit through), and from her writing seems highly aware of how fortunate she is.

Actually, the “Office” cast as a whole has always seemed to me to be refreshingly free of self-centered drama queens - in sharp contrast to the characters they play.

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/36 "2009-05-06T23:02:55Z")

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> [@Tanbarkie](#):
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> Weird. I’ve always gotten the impression that Jenna Fischer was one of the most level-headed, humble, and just plain _nice_ actors out there. I’ve seen a fair amount of behind-the-scenes stuff from “The Office,” and she’s always been very down to earth, and as a bonus, is every bit as adorkably witty in real life as her character is on the show. “Conceited” is probably the last word I would’ve used to describe her.
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> Fischer was also one of the first celebrity bloggers (in fact, many of her entries are written on-set, during the many many background shots the “Office” cast have to sit through), and from her writing seems highly aware of how fortunate she is.
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> Actually, the “Office” cast as a whole has always seemed to me to be refreshingly free of self-centered drama queens - in sharp contrast to the characters they play.

I have no idea how she really is, I am just going on (perhaps unfairly) the couple of times I have seen her on late night talk shows—maybe she was just nervous and I took it for being aloof.

I was more posting about when people talk about attractive cast members on “The Office” Jenna Fischer seems to be the one they always focus on, when to me there are at least 3 other women on the cast who are MUCH more physically appealing, at least in my opinion.

With that, I dont want to further hi-jack this thread.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/37 "2009-05-06T23:06:35Z")

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> [@Tanbarkie](#):
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> adorkably

Was this intentional? If so, I’m way behind on the new funwords.

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/38 "2009-05-06T23:15:14Z")

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> [@](#):
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> What pisses me off, in addition to the OP’s stuff, is how the guys are so much uglier than the girls. Girls want eye candy, too!

One rare exception is _Grey’s Anatomy_, which has a female producer. On that show it’s the men who look like models.

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**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/39 "2009-05-06T23:41:34Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Was this intentional? If so, I’m way behind on the new funwords.

Yep, intentional. Don’t remember where I first heard it, but it’s been around for a year or so at least.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/40 "2009-05-07T00:07:38Z")

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I find it odd on _Chuck_ that the title character keeps bemoaning how ugly he is. Uh-huh. Sure.

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