# I Miss Ugly People on TV **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 6, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561 "2009-05-06T17:37:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/61 "2009-05-07T11:05:24Z")
> [@Lust4Life](#): > > Something in a similar vain What a remarkably appropriate typo for this thread!😛 ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/62 "2009-05-07T11:06:28Z")
> [@Tenebras](#): > > The whole thing was done in blackface. Check the production notes. [Link](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanford_and_Son). Am I missing something here? ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/63 "2009-05-07T12:12:42Z")
> [@singular1](#): > > What a remarkably appropriate typo for this thread!😛 Must be something subliminal eye of course meant vein or any other of the smaller blood vessels 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/64 "2009-05-07T12:42:42Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Think about some of the more physically attractive woman you know in your workplace. Now imagine them standing next to Emily Deschanel or Jorja Fox or Elisabeth Rohm. Who’s better looking? I work with over a hundred women and maybe two or three of them would be the equal of these actresses. But again, that’s in your opinion. And that’s okay. But in mine, I know dozens of women more attractive than any of them, and hundreds at least as attractive as any of them. And I’m with SWB on Jorja Fox. That is NOT an attractive woman, IMO. A friend of mine used to say that she looked like she got hit in the face with a flaming shovel. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/65 "2009-05-07T13:01:57Z")
[quote=“DianaG, post:64, topic:495561”] But again, that’s in your opinion. And that’s okay. But in mine, I know dozens of women more attractive than any of them, and hundreds at least as attractive as any of them. …QUOTE] Where did you say you live? ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/66 "2009-05-07T16:27:15Z")
> [@Chicken\_Fingers](#): > > One of the reasons I love Eastenders is for the decidedly non-gorgeous cast. They eat breakfast for every meal (with their average-looking teeth), drink in the pub, bed-hop, do laundry, and accidentally kill each other all day, every day. It’s delightful. Your PBS may show it, though fewer do these days. Shirley is the best example of this. I like her spunk and moxie, but my God, she is a hard looking woman. That all being said, I find myself trying to find something attractive about her physically, and I constantly fail. It’s the permanent scowl, streetwalker clothing, and the makeup applied with a trowel, I think. But I like her! (Best thing that ever happened to Phil.) ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/67 "2009-05-07T16:30:28Z")
Yeah, I don’t see it with Jorja Fox either. The boys of CSI (Grissom and _shudder_ Caruso excepted) are pretty hot, but a lot of the women are more on the normal scale, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/68 "2009-05-07T16:53:38Z")
> [@](#): > > But again, that’s in your opinion. And that’s okay. But in mine, I know dozens of women more attractive than any of them, and hundreds at least as attractive as any of them. > > And I’m with SWB on Jorja Fox. That is NOT an attractive woman, IMO. A friend of mine used to say that she looked like she got hit in the face with a flaming shovel. > [@](#): > > Yeah, I don’t see it with Jorja Fox either. The boys of CSI (Grissom and _shudder_ Caruso excepted) are pretty hot, but a lot of the women are more on the normal scale, I think. But you’re women and presumedly the hotness of other women is a mostly theoretical issue with you. Just like I’d be guessing if William Petersen is hot or not. But as a guy, I instinctively know that Jorja Fox is hot. And the lesbian rumors? That just makes her hotter. ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/69 "2009-05-07T17:09:30Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > But you’re women and presumedly the hotness of other women is a mostly theoretical issue with you. Just like I’d be guessing if William Petersen is hot or not. > > But as a guy, I instinctively know that Jorja Fox is hot. And the lesbian rumors? That just makes her hotter. As a guy I don’t think Jorja Fox is a knockout. She would be mid tier in most big office settings - I mean honestly walking downtown in most major cities you will find 10 women prettier than her in 10 minutes. She has a gap in her teeth and her eyes just look odd to me. I am not saying she is ugly, but she certainly wouldn’t be someone I would consider hot. > **[Exposay 2025](https://www.exposay.co)** ps: As a guy I can say for sure that William Peterson is not hot. But, Warrick is. ---
**Author:** ![filling\_pages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@filling\_pages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filling_pages)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/70 "2009-05-07T17:24:54Z")
> [@Mahna\_Mahna](#): > > But on aside from Hargitay and Meloni, it’s not exactly a beauty pageant over at SVU. Ice T and Richard Belzer definitely qualify as “funny looking”, and Dann Florek is just average as far as I’m concerned. But then you’ve got the parade of ADAs (including Angie Harmon, a literal fashion model, Michaela McManus, and Stephanie March - though my favorite is Diane Neal). Plus, Tamara Tunie, as the medical examiner, is pretty easy on the eyes. And I honestly can’t believe that I care this much about SVU. God help me, it’s not my fault the reruns are on cable approximately 17 times per day. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/71 "2009-05-07T17:29:38Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > …But as a guy, I instinctively know that Jorja Fox is hot. And the lesbian rumors? That just makes her hotter. I had no idea who she was so I had to Google her. She’s pretty hot, though not jaw-dropping hot. ---
**Author:** ![Mahna\_Mahna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Mahna\_Mahna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahna_Mahna)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/72 "2009-05-07T18:56:36Z")
> [@filling\_pages](#): > > But then you’ve got the parade of ADAs (including Angie Harmon, a literal fashion model, Michaela McManus, and Stephanie March - though my favorite is Diane Neal). Plus, Tamara Tunie, as the medical examiner, is pretty easy on the eyes. > > And I honestly can’t believe that I care this much about SVU. God help me, it’s not my fault the reruns are on cable approximately 17 times per day. Yeah, but there’s an unwritten law than in order to be a female ADA on any L&O series, you must be young and hot. Once you cease to be either young and/or hot, you will be written out of the series. In the L&O Alternative Universe, a DA determines his staff’s ability to be courtroom badasses based on how good they look in a short skirt and designer stilettos as opposed to the contents of their resume or any actual legal knowledge they may have (this is also known as McBeal’s Law). ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/73 "2009-05-07T20:40:20Z")
> [@filling\_pages](#): > > Most of the crew on 30 Rock range from funny looking to eh, average. (Not counting the adorable Tina Fey).. You forget the downright goddess-like Jane Krakowski. How she has avoided being cursed by Aphrodite is unclear. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/74 "2009-05-08T02:39:17Z")
> [@](#): > > Most of the crew on 30 Rock range from funny looking to eh, average. (Not counting the adorable Tina Fey). > [@](#): > > You forget the downright goddess-like Jane Krakowski. How she has avoided being cursed by Aphrodite is unclear. And the other female regular is [Katrina Bowden](http://www.hairfinder.com/celebrityhairstyles/katrina-bowden.jpg) - this is not a series that lacks female hotness. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/75 "2009-05-08T03:32:32Z")
> [@Mahna\_Mahna](#): > > Yeah, but there’s an unwritten law than in order to be a female ADA on any L&O series, you must be young and hot. Once you cease to be either young and/or hot, you will be written out of the series. > … Are you sure they’re not fired because they’re lesbians? ---
**Author:** ![cactus\_waltz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@cactus\_waltz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cactus_waltz)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561/76 "2009-05-08T16:48:32Z")
I’m a guy and I think William Petersen is more good looking than Jorja Fox. This is also a personality issue, Jorja appears pretty uninteresting to me. William also has the advantage of looking equally good with and without a beard. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-miss-ugly-people-on-tv/495561.md?page=3)