# I nearly shot popcorn out my nose, and it's "Troy"'s fault

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 22, 2004, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-nearly-shot-popcorn-out-my-nose-and-its-troy-s-fault/235762 "2004-03-22T20:17:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-nearly-shot-popcorn-out-my-nose-and-its-troy-s-fault/235762/41 "2004-03-23T07:11:57Z")

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> [@Rex Fenestrarum](#):
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> Hear hear!! Don’t forget _Snatch_ either! The man can act.

**Kalifornia** too. He was truly creepy and scary as a white-trash cold-blooded killer. The “Pitt-is-too-pretty” people are woefully ignorant of his movies.

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**Author:** ![Beauty\_Personified](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@Beauty\_Personified](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beauty_Personified)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-nearly-shot-popcorn-out-my-nose-and-its-troy-s-fault/235762/42 "2004-03-23T07:30:02Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> **Kalifornia** too. He was truly creepy and scary as a white-trash cold-blooded killer. The “Pitt-is-too-pretty” people are woefully ignorant of his movies.

He wasn’t very “pretty” in _12 Monkeys_ or _True Romance_ either, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-nearly-shot-popcorn-out-my-nose-and-its-troy-s-fault/235762/43 "2004-03-23T12:38:34Z")

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> [@easy e](#):
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> Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Achilles supposed to be really young, like 19 or so? His mother had him hiding with maidens, so he couldn’t have been too old. Also, wasn’t part of the conflict between him and Agamemnon due to the fact that Agamemnon, being older and commander of the Greeks, tried to boss around Achilles, who was way younger but a better fighter?

Yeah, their relationship was strained. Agamemnon was compelled to a woman named Chryseis who he won in battle to her father a priest of Apollo. Feeling that it was unfair for the leader of all the Greek forces to be without his war booty he decided to liberate a woman named Briseis whom Achilles had won in the same battle. That’s the straw that broke the camels back.

Marc

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**Author:** ![Mal\_Adroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@Mal\_Adroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mal_Adroit)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-nearly-shot-popcorn-out-my-nose-and-its-troy-s-fault/235762/44 "2004-03-23T13:05:51Z")

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> [@sturmhauke](#):
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> I think it started going downhill as soon as the studio decided to call it _Troy_ instead of the proper but apparently market-unfriendly _The Iliad_.

Agreed. A disturbingly large number of people will be thinking, “I don’t wanna see no movie 'bout that dude from the Trump show!” 😃

ba dom chee

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-nearly-shot-popcorn-out-my-nose-and-its-troy-s-fault/235762/45 "2004-03-23T13:06:43Z")

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By Zeus, I wish Schneer and Harryhausen were producing this. I always loved how they used the Gods playing chess with the human charactors.

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-nearly-shot-popcorn-out-my-nose-and-its-troy-s-fault/235762/46 "2004-03-23T13:16:11Z")

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Hey, any movie could use more stop motion skeletons!

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-nearly-shot-popcorn-out-my-nose-and-its-troy-s-fault/235762/47 "2004-03-23T13:35:10Z")

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> [@GMRyujin](#):
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> Hugh Jackman, maybe.

Oo, hadn’t thought about it at all (indifferent to the trailers), but that is a good idea!

I agree with posters above who say there’s nothing really _wrong_ with Brad Pitt, but he’s a touch too svelt and not quite gritty enough. Sort of like the Viggo Mortensen vs. Stuart Townsend as Aragorn. Viggo has the gritty, war vet, physical presence. Townsend never would have had the requisite commanding _presence_.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-nearly-shot-popcorn-out-my-nose-and-its-troy-s-fault/235762/48 "2004-03-23T13:51:58Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> The “Pitt-is-too-pretty” people are woefully ignorant of his movies.

I’m not ignorant of this trailer, in which he looks like a surfer dude, with flowing locks and all.

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**Author:** ![Natroga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/85f322/32.png) [@Natroga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natroga)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-nearly-shot-popcorn-out-my-nose-and-its-troy-s-fault/235762/49 "2004-03-23T14:03:25Z")

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Hence “Da Brad”

Just to make things clear, I have nothing against Brad Pitt. I really LOVE “Twelve Monkeys” and “Fight Club” is among my favourite movies. I don’t think he’s to pretty either. It’s just that the thought somebody would cast Brad as Achilles NEVER even would have crossed my mind, so I, too, was a bit… startled the first time I heard about it.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-nearly-shot-popcorn-out-my-nose-and-its-troy-s-fault/235762/50 "2004-03-23T15:08:37Z")

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> [@Natroga](#):
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> Hence “Da Brad”
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> …I have nothing against Brad Pitt…

Unless you’re slow-dancing and then you just can’t help it!

_rim-shot!_

😃

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-nearly-shot-popcorn-out-my-nose-and-its-troy-s-fault/235762/51 "2004-03-23T15:34:31Z")

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Even though Pitt might not seem right, it really is hard to think of many actors that would have been better. Hugh Jackman is the only one that I’ve heard that might have worked better in my opinion.

It could have been a whole lot worse though. It could have been Ben Affleck or Keanu Reeves. Whoa.

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**Author:** ![Kizarvexius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/da6949/32.png) [@Kizarvexius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kizarvexius)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-nearly-shot-popcorn-out-my-nose-and-its-troy-s-fault/235762/52 "2004-03-23T15:59:27Z")

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> [@Morelin](#):
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> And I still say Pitt is much too fair(hair and skin) to be playing a Greek.

Not so. Achilles was described as “golden-haired” in the _Iliad_. Furthermore, Odysseus is a redhead. Can’t get much more fair skinned than that.

Not all Greeks were/are dark and swarthy.

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