# I need to express some Pitty feelings... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 12, 2003, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958 "2003-03-12T22:37:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/1 "2003-03-12T22:37:27Z")
I was going to say it in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=169171) thread, but I didn’t want to get scolded, so I’m saying it here: FUCK \*\*FUCK \*\* \*\*FUCK FUCK FUCK!! \*\* \*\*HAVE YOU ALL GONE FUCKING INSANE??? \*\* \*\*FUCK!! \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/2 "2003-03-12T22:41:52Z")
_BANG_ Yes, well I have gone insane, do you have a problem with that, sonny Jim? ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/3 "2003-03-12T22:44:33Z")
Yes, it’s nuts to think about using nuclear weapons, especially since they shouldn’t be necessary in the slightest, even IF there’s an all-out war. ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/4 "2003-03-12T22:59:38Z")
Right. I guess getting pitted by the most partisan extremist without even a rudimentary understanding of nuclear brinksmanship is not the worst thing that could happen. If you can’t win a conventional war in the Korean Peninsula without the total destruction of South Korea and millions of civilian casualties - your solution is? ---
**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/5 "2003-03-12T23:03:27Z")
This is a terrible pit rant- overreliance on the word “fuck” (4 years out of date), the font size and color change is soooooo AOL (5 years out of date), and there’s really no substance to it. I’d give it a 1.5 out of “pitty”, but you managed to try and fuck up a Great Debate with a substanceless post containing a gratuitous Bush potshot and spelled Amerika with a “K”, which I thought was anti-"K"linton-gun-rack-on-pick-up-truck-redneck territory (and at least 5 years out of date). A -2 at best. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/6 "2003-03-12T23:28:08Z")
I’m shocked Stoid! Shocked I tell you, that you are so cooly cynical about other perceived socio-economic and political hypocrisies, and yet this one has your mascara all smeared. People are power tripping animals. Get used to it. It’s a realpolitik (k’s are kool!) consideration that we have to destroy some countries in order to save them. Don’t get M.A.D.! Get rads! 🆒 🙂 🆒 It 9000 degrees celsius in the shade baby! ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/7 "2003-03-12T23:38:20Z")
Well, mojo, I wasn’t playing to the critics, just had to express exactly how I felt. ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/8 "2003-03-12T23:53:58Z")
OK, let’s finger paint this for the slower or understanding impaired: I was suggesting that if over one million North Korean soldiers come streaming accross the DMZ under cover of the most oppressive artillery barrage in human history, it might be necessary to use nuclear weapons to avoid the most civilian casualties since WWII. Any intelligent responses, other than partisan grunting noises? **astro** , a mind is a terrible thing to waste. ---
**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/9 "2003-03-12T23:58:59Z")
Uh, yeah. If a million North Korean soldiers come streaming across the DMZ under cover of the most oppressive artillery barrage in human history, and we launch a nuke at North Korea, those one million North Korean soldiers won’t wanna go home. _tongue only slightly in cheek_ ---
**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/10 "2003-03-13T00:06:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Beagle \* > **OK, let’s finger paint this for the slower or understanding impaired: I was suggesting that if over one million North Korean soldiers come streaming accross the DMZ under cover of the most oppressive artillery barrage in human history, it might be necessary to use nuclear weapons to avoid the most civilian casualties since WWII.** Maybe they’ll go home if we ask them “pretty please”. Or, perhaps we can bribe them some more. ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/11 "2003-03-13T00:16:01Z")
I’m sure you don’t know what you are talking about, but thanks for playing. We would hit the front line troops or the staging areas for the reserves. We would be _nuking the North Korean troops._ I repeat, we would be using nuclear weapons to blunt the North Korean advance. If anyone actually knows anything about nuclear terminology, strategy, or the North Korean situation, feel free to pipe in at any time. ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/12 "2003-03-13T00:26:32Z")
There are about 10.5 million innocent Seoul residents. Oh, and they love the [internet.](http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.08/korea.html) Solutions to a North Korean combined forces attack into South Korea anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Rhum\_Runner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rhum\_Runner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhum_Runner)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/13 "2003-03-13T00:49:33Z")
A solution **Beagle**? FUCK! Have you gone INSANE? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/14 "2003-03-13T01:10:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Beagle \* > \*\*Right. I guess getting pitted by the most partisan extremist without even a rudimentary understanding of nuclear brinksmanship is not the worst thing that could happen. > > If you can’t win a conventional war in the Korean Peninsula without the total destruction of South Korea and millions of civilian casualties - your solution is? \*\* Find a way to prevent even a conventional war in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Rhum\_Runner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rhum\_Runner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhum_Runner)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/15 "2003-03-13T01:14:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kaylasdad99 \* > \*\*Find a way to prevent even a conventional war in the first place. \*\* You know what’s a good way to prevent a conventional war? Park a nuclear sub of the coast of the bad guys and threaten to turn them into glowing goop if they so much as flinch at the border. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/16 "2003-03-13T01:15:06Z")
Thanks for you insight, Ms. Crow. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/17 "2003-03-13T01:22:34Z")
**Beagle** …Just what do you think NK’s response to a nuke attack would be? Would Tokyo be glowing? How many millions live there? Taiwan nuclear rubble maybe? Yep…nuking them first would work. ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/18 "2003-03-13T01:30:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Find a way to prevent even a conventional war in the first place. Bingo. Don’t rule out a first use of nuclear weapons. ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/19 "2003-03-13T01:31:16Z")
Does it really matter once Seoul is gone and destroyed? Is South Korea an acceptable loss? ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958/20 "2003-03-13T01:36:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Beagle \* > \*\*Does it really matter once Seoul is gone and destroyed? Is South Korea an acceptable loss? \*\* huh??? You are saying that killing NK troops with a nuke is worth the destruction of Tokyo or Taiwan?? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-to-express-some-pitty-feelings/160958.md?page=2)