# I need Western Movie titles

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 31, 2006, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-western-movie-titles/350738 "2006-03-31T19:00:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-western-movie-titles/350738/41 "2006-04-01T02:01:03Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Not mentioned in another Wayne/John Ford film: **Fort Apache**. Different in that the cavalry commander (Henry Fonda) is a jerk, and that the Indians aren’t the bad guys.

Just saw this for the first time a few months ago. I grew up on westerns with cavalry, and Fort Apache was the first one where it looked like the troops were doing real maneuvers and formations.

Most movies, we hear “Mount up!” and then see the cavalry in no particular order, a straggly line of men, riding two or three abreast or as a single rider. Same thing when they had to get ready for action. There was no order to it.

Maybe Ford paid attention to this in Fort Apache to emphasize Fonda’s character, the by-the-book martinet.

(Or maybe they always did it right and I just noticed, but I was impressed.)

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-western-movie-titles/350738/42 "2006-04-01T02:02:08Z")

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I wouldn’t call it a classic of western cinema, but I always liked 1994’s _The Desperate Trail_.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-western-movie-titles/350738/43 "2006-04-01T02:21:20Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> **She Wore a Yellow Ribbon** is vastly underrated, and one of John Wayne’s best roles. He was pissed he didn’t get an Oscar nomination for it, and he was right.

On the down side, it also has Joanne Dru, which drops it a star in my rankings. 😃

“You ever been scared, Sgt. Tyree?”

“Yessir. Up to and including now.”

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**Author:** ![vl\_mungo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc8723/32.png) [@vl\_mungo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vl_mungo)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-western-movie-titles/350738/44 "2006-04-01T02:26:43Z")

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> [@JohnBckWLD](#):
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> A bit of a novely, in that (real life Keach brothers) played the Frank & Jesse James; the Carradine boys played the Youngers & the Quaid brothers played the Millers, but I really liked “The Long Riders”. I usually don’t like westerns, and this one was unconventional enough to keep me watching. Ry Cooder’s sountrack was a nice touch as well.

I’ll second that… **The Long Riders** is one of my favourites.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-western-movie-titles/350738/45 "2006-04-01T03:16:03Z")

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I love “The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly”. 'Tis a great movie. “Blazing Saddles” also has a place in my DVD collection. “Shane” is a classic. “Unforgiven” is also a fav.

It can be argued that “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” is a western. It depends how broad you want your definition to get. Westerns are about freedom. Western heroes are those who have that freedom. Many films fit under that umbrella.

Booyah.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-western-movie-titles/350738/46 "2006-04-01T03:34:32Z")

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If you choose to see **Shane** , notice the director’s luck in having a certain shot framed through the antlers of a deer (?) near the beginning of the film.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-western-movie-titles/350738/47 "2006-04-01T03:36:19Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> I’m wondering why _Dances With Wolves_ hasn’t been touted. (I’m not touting it, just asking.)

I don’t think I’ve read a single complimentary post about Kevin Costner, anywhere on this board.

I liked the movie, even though it was overly romanticized when everyone else making westerns in the early 90’s was opting for realism.

NPR last week had a segment on film criticism, and the guest quoted Paul Rudnick (writing as Libby Gelman-Waxner) on Dances With Wolves. It was hysterical.

Libby said if she had been kidnapped by the Sioux, she expected her captivity would be much like Mary McDonnell’s, in the movie.

She’d wear a stunning suede dress trimmed with shells, her hair would be in a fashionable shag instead of braids, and she’d marry the first white movie star she saw. Not unlike Libby herself, who in high school was voted Best Accessories and Most Likely to Marry Within Her Faith. 🙂

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-western-movie-titles/350738/48 "2006-04-01T07:55:20Z")

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Before you see the Mgnificent Seven make sure you see [The Seven Samurai](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047478/), the first modern action film.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-western-movie-titles/350738/49 "2006-04-01T08:53:02Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> **She Wore a Yellow Ribbon** is vastly underrated, and one of John Wayne’s best roles. He was pissed he didn’t get an Oscar nomination for it, and he was right.

I agree, it’s one of my favorites. But it’s an unusual movie; it’s largely plotless. Dave Kehr called it something like the only avant garde movie about the value of tradition. It might not be the thing for a “newbie” to Westerns.

> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Not mentioned in another Wayne/John Ford film: **Fort Apache**. Different in that the cavalry commander (Henry Fonda) is a jerk, and that the Indians aren’t the bad guys. It also shows what Ford had to say in **Liberty Valance** , that when the legend becomes the truth, print the legend. Wayne has to come to that decision, making a great film.

Also a masterpiece, and along with\* Yellow Ribbon\* and _Rio Grande_, part of Ford’s “Cavalry Trilogy,” considered by many (me included) to be a pinnacle of world cinema.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-western-movie-titles/350738/50 "2006-04-01T08:54:21Z")

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Some of my favorites have already been mentioned, including:

_Dead Man  
Quick and the Dead  
Cat Ballou  
McCabe and Mrs. Miller_

A couple that haven’t yet made an appearance:

_Jeremiah Johnson_: Sidney Pollack directs Robert Redford in a visually stunning piece of work. Great performance from Redford as a fur trapper struggling with nature and learning to live with native Americans.

_Little Big Man_: Dustin Hoffman plays the only white man to survive Custer’s Last Stand, in a great satirical movie that offers a strong critique of American expansion and Indian policy.

And then there’s _Lone Star_: Not really a Western in the true sense of the word, but set in the west and probably one of my favourite movies (of any genre) of the last decade. Slow-paced story that pulls you in, beautifully directed by John Sayles, and with great performances from the cast, led by Chris Cooper.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-need-western-movie-titles/350738/51 "2006-04-01T09:25:29Z")

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lissener and Godfrey already got it right; **My Darling Clementine** is the greatest Western genre film ever made.

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