# I never said that.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 22, 2002, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107 "2002-11-22T05:38:06Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2002, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/21 "2002-11-23T07:25:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by hawthorne \*  
> \*\*Nice. Would have worked even better with **whoview**. \*\*

Refresh my memory: What was “whoview”? Was that the same as “AnnoyingTag”, where everyone saw their own SN in the space so they would think they were being addressed personally?

[sub]All I know is, I was about sixty seconds too late to be the first one with the sig line of “I survived AnnoyingTag!”…:::grumble grumble:::[/sub]

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### Author: ![cichlidiot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f9b8f/32.png) [@cichlidiot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cichlidiot)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2002, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/22 "2002-11-23T08:25:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Biggirl \*  
> \*\*  
> I don’t know why this would cause me to lose sleep. Must be the PMS.  
> \*\*

I can think of two reasons. It’s untrue, and from what I’ve read of your posts, you’re a genuinely nice person. I’ve read posts where you seemed upset, but you don’t come across as someone who would post, “I’m not reading you’re posts ever again, neener neener!” in a serious way. I doubt a lot of dopers do think you said it, rather, there was a lot of other stuff going on in the thread that people were concentrating on.

As far as the PMS, I’ve cried during an episode of the Simpsons when I felt Bart was being treated unfairly.:o

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### Author: ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2002, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/23 "2002-11-23T14:14:36Z")

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Rilchiam: yes.

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### Author: ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2002, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/24 "2002-11-23T15:20:29Z")

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> …young lady who made a mistake.

I’m still trying to figure out in what universe “I said something crappy about someone, then pretended I had made a mistake to cover it up, with malice aforethought” = “I made a mistake.” That’s not a mistake. It’s deliberate malicious misbehavior. She deliberately insulted **Green Bean** and then lied about it. That’s not a _mistake_.

I don’t think it’s remotely surprising that, in her “apology” (whatever) thread, she lied about **Biggirl** as well. I don’t think “It was a typo” is going to fly any more.

Regarding PMS, yeah, it’s totally possible that I’m PMSing now. I’m not going to blame my shittiness toward **FlamX** on that, though. She gets to own that.

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### Author: ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2002, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/25 "2002-11-23T20:40:28Z")

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> I am deeply sorry for any consternation I may have caused among you, or any distress I may have caused Green Bean. She did not deserve to be called a hypocrite in that manner. I am ashamed of my conduct, and will do my level best not to repeat it in future. That is all.

That’s from Flamsterette\_X. In the OP of her apology thread.

She explained why she did what she did. She apologized. She says she’s ashamed.

**Green Bean** accepted the explanation and apology, and is moving on with her life.

How’s about the rest of us do the same?

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### Author: ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2002, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/26 "2002-11-23T21:52:20Z")

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Again, this is **NOT** about GreenBean.

Flamster said I did something that I did not do. What in the hell that has to do with her apology to GB, I have no idea.

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### Author: ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2002, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/27 "2002-11-23T22:23:09Z")

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No more PMS, no I have the worst cramps ever. And I’m getting angrier and angrier.  
What the fuck is all this “Flammy is so nice, let it go” crap? What, exactly does it mean? Flamster is nice so therefore it is all right for her to tell untruths about Biggirl? Flamster apologized to GreenBean so therefore Biggirl should give her a free ride?  
Flamster said something about me that was not true. I have been extremely gentle with her, most people who tell lies about me get a whole new asshole as a return favor. Maybe a few of the Flamster apologists can get her to explain herself instead of making excuses for her.

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### Author: ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2002, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/28 "2002-11-23T22:43:53Z")

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Next time you’re ripping someone a new one, gimme a call. I need to learn how to do this American Style.

I’m sort of curious why didn’t you do it in this instance.

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### Author: ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2002, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/29 "2002-11-23T22:55:07Z")

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Yeah! Let’s get on **biggirl** ’s case for showing some restraint!

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Might as well go out and eat a fuckin’ double bacon cheeseburger, that’s my motto tonight!

(This post really isn’t directed at either **biggirl** or **GingerOfTheNorth** , but reflects my own internal reality at the moment)

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### Author: ![Anahita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9a28c/32.png) [@Anahita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anahita)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2002, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/30 "2002-11-24T06:31:28Z")

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If I were **BigGirl** (one can always dream), I’d also want an explanation. She was accused of something she didn’t do, and no matter how small and petty YOU may think it was, it’s her right to have an explanantion.

**FlamX** did not make a blanket apology to everyone nor did she explain herself to ALL the people she called out.

Just my 2centimes.

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### Author: ![Anahita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9a28c/32.png) [@Anahita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anahita)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2002, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/31 "2002-11-24T06:39:37Z")

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sorry, I was wrong. She did apologize for consternation she may have caused, which isn’t exactly the same thing, I suppose.

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### Author: ![Dr.Lao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dr.Lao](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Lao)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2002, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/32 "2002-11-24T08:05:07Z")

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I think this thread just came at the wrong time. By the time you started it, the MPSIMS thread had already lost its momentum and the Pit thread that started it all was long gone. People are pretty sick of the whole thing.

Which isn’t to say you don’t have a legitimite beef. You do. But it isn’t enough to revive the waning interest of the folks who are sick of the whole affair. So you are stuck with the supportive-flamey crowd (not that there’s anything wrong with them).

I suppose if you’re dying to know what the dealio is with her off-the-cuff remark including of you, you could e-mail her. But I doubt it will be a heck of a lot more interesting than OP of the **Green Bean explanation…** thread.

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### Author: ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2002, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/33 "2002-11-24T08:14:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Biggirl \*  
> \*\*I think I cut **Flammy** so much slack in my OP that she could make 2 suits and a pair of shorts. In the linked thread I remarked that I never said what Flammy said I did. You and I both know that she made a mistake **Homebrew** , however the many posters who read the thread don’t seem to know it and, since Flam has yet to comment on it, it looks like she doesn’t know it either.
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> That whoview was a pisser, wasn’t it. Wonder why they got rid of it. . . \*\*

I had yet to comment on it because I didn’t know of the existence of this thread, assuming you’re talking about this one, and not the other one. As for making a mistake, it seems that over the last couple of days or so, I have made a few mistakes. (tried to do my best to acknowledge them when I realized I had)

When I make mistakes, I generally try to acknowledge that simple fact, and try to make amends / apologize. Since it’s getting late here, I will read those threads again when I have the time, and then decide on the appropriateness of anyther response in this thread. 🙂

F\_X

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### Author: ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2002, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/34 "2002-11-24T08:46:16Z")

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Well, she’s taking the 24 hour advice.

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### Author: ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2002, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/35 "2002-11-24T16:35:00Z")

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(more like the eight and a half hours’ advice, **Ender** … 🙂 )

With that said…

I’m sorry, **Biggirl**. ☹

F\_X

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### Author: ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2002, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/36 "2002-11-24T16:43:34Z")

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What a CROCK. I am evil because iI choose to be Evil and if i rip your head off or say something nasty to someone, it is because i have gotten irritated. And is not now, nor will it be atrributable to my godforsaken wretched uterus, and accursed ovaries.

Thank you.

anya “playing on a happenstance” marie

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### Author: ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2002, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/37 "2002-11-24T17:10:39Z")

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Hey Flame.

Sorright.

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### Author: ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2002, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/38 "2002-11-24T17:57:00Z")

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why didnt you post this in PMSIMS?

…oops

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### Author: ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2002, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/39 "2002-11-24T18:47:52Z")

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> Hey Flame.
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> Sorright.

Anyone else read that in Senor Wences voice?

Sorright?  
S’OK!

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### Author: ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2002, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-never-said-that/138107/40 "2002-11-24T21:36:30Z")

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Every thread makes me hungry nowadays. Is this a problem?

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