# I noticed I still have some time left, Tomndeb **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 28, 2007, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857 "2007-03-28T17:34:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/181 "2007-03-31T03:08:51Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] …and a blonde whose name has now escaped me… [/QUOTE] Jenna Elfman. Oh, crap. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/182 "2007-03-31T03:09:49Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] A sitcom. Cute hippy chick from wacky family marries Old Money lawyer from uptight family. Comedy ensues. [/QUOTE] “Larry” was the cute hippie chick’s burned out hippie dad. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/183 "2007-03-31T03:37:28Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] Oh, crap. :smack: [/QUOTE] You know, she’s got an [online fan club](http://www.jennaelfman.com/)? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/184 "2007-03-31T11:02:04Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] No. I. Did. NOT. And this is the problem with you; your utter inability to comprehend what went on. FOUR PER CENT of people have ADD. Somebody said 4% was a ‘miniscule’ number. I said it was not a ‘miniscule’ number and that .000001 would BE A MINISCULE NUMBER. I did NOT say that .000001 people had ADD. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] And I never claimed you did. Neither did anyone else. Rolleyes to infinity. This is exactly what I am talking about. You are arguing against a position no one has taken, while refusing to support a position that you have taken. It’s just silly. Here is the post where you used your .000009 per cent figure. The word "minuscule’ does not appear. > [@](#): > > It should be evident that it doesn’t matter. That some people with ADD are chronically tardy is all the information you need to allow that as a possible cause for your friend’s being late and to investigate that cause. Even if it’s .000009 per cent, your friend could be in that percentage and unless you know for sure, you can’t discount that possibilty. This is a straightforward as it can be. You are not comparing one set of numbers to another, and evaluating them for their relative amounts. You have made a simple, unqualified assertion. And were simply asked whether any other circumstance should be afforded the same consideration. You then screamed “hypothetical” in giant letters. OK, came the response, hypothetically, does any other circumstance fit the criteria? ‘Analogy’ you screamed, although clearly there is no analogy present. FYI, the simple presence of the word “if” in a sentence does not place the entire concept into the realm of the hypothetical. “If you are happy and you know it, clap your hands,” for example. Or, “If you want to be taken seriously, stop being such a dumbass.” > [@](#): > > It is NOT miniscule. You have 100 people in your office. Four have ADD. If you have 1000 people in your school, forty have it. This is not ‘miniscule’, now is it? We’ll never really know, now will we, since another question you refused to answer, although pressed repeatedly, was how many of that 4% were tardy as a result of ADD. That was the significant number, not the raw 4%. Data about people who are not tardy is completely meaningless, although you seem to believe otherwise. \*\*tomndebb \*\*made the case quite well, in [this post.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8246029&postcount=477) > [@](#): > > And this is absolutely the last time I am ever addressing this - if neither of you can comprehend that the .00001 number was **NOT** RELATED TO THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF PEOPLE WITH ADD (I’m writing big letters in hope they’re more visible and therefore easier to understand) then there is nothing I can do for you. This point was made, and accepted, in the other thread. That you continue to pretend that it was not says quite a bit about your integrity as a debater. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/185 "2007-03-31T16:06:01Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] You know, she’s got an [online fan club](http://www.jennaelfman.com/)? 😃 [/QUOTE] Ill join. If he uses the sit com argument ,I lose. What if he ups it to Friends. (i didn’t watch that either). Then the wookie argument. Followed by if the glove does not fit you must acquit. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/186 "2007-03-31T16:13:44Z")
[QUOTE=gonzomax] Ill join. If he uses the sit com argument ,I lose. What if he ups it to Friends. (i didn’t watch that either). Then the wookie argument. Followed by if the glove does not fit you must acquit. [/QUOTE] **gonzo** , do you think that you could post in English once in a while? Because I’m having pretty serious problems understanding your posts, and my English is fairly decent, so I have to assume that you’re posting in another language. Or is it me? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/187 "2007-03-31T16:29:52Z")
Not just you. **Gonzo** ’s posts are often unintelligible. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/188 "2007-03-31T16:45:36Z")
Thanks for the sanity check, **Captain**! ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/189 "2007-03-31T16:54:15Z")
[QUOTE=Oy!] **gonzo** , do you think that you could post in English once in a while? Because I’m having pretty serious problems understanding your posts, and my English is fairly decent, so I have to assume that you’re posting in another language. Or is it me? [/QUOTE] I believe **gonzo** was joking in a free association type way- translation (of sorts) - tieing together the faux concept of a ‘sit com ’ defense strategy by making references to Dharma & Greg would lead to an uping of the ante to "Friends’ references, neither of which **gonzo** has seen, much like the joking about the OJ defense of ‘if it doesn’t fit you must acquit’ vs. the “Wookie” defense. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/190 "2007-03-31T17:02:45Z")
[QUOTE=wring] I believe **gonzo** was joking in a free association type way- translation (of sorts) - tieing together the faux concept of a ‘sit com ’ defense strategy by making references to Dharma & Greg would lead to an uping of the ante to "Friends’ references, neither of which **gonzo** has seen, much like the joking about the OJ defense of ‘if it doesn’t fit you must acquit’ vs. the “Wookie” defense. [/QUOTE] OK, I’ll bite: what’s the Wookie defense? ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/191 "2007-03-31T17:06:24Z")
[QUOTE=Oy!] OK, I’ll bite: what’s the Wookie defense? [/QUOTE] [Wookie defense](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_Defense) ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/192 "2007-03-31T17:10:19Z")
[QUOTE=wring] [Wookie defense](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_Defense) [/QUOTE] OK, and thank you, **wring**. That’s an hour of my life I’ll never get back again… ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/193 "2007-03-31T17:12:24Z")
[QUOTE=Oy!] OK, and thank you, **wring**. That’s an hour of my life I’ll never get back again… [/QUOTE] I know the feeling ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/194 "2007-03-31T17:27:24Z")
OK, so let me get this straight. **gonzomax** justifies the unwarranted blaming of **tomndebb** for the manifold sins of the RCC by virtue of OJ Simpson’s acquital for a murder he obviously committed? God, and I thought I was confused before! ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/195 "2007-03-31T17:39:57Z")
No, I suspect it’s more of a “frantic hand waving look over here instead” of a deal. In other words, when there’s no real defense, you attempt to confuse the issue in any way possible. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/196 "2007-03-31T17:46:23Z")
OK, so that makes sense then. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/197 "2007-03-31T17:51:16Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] You know, she’s got an [online fan club](http://www.jennaelfman.com/)? 😃 [/QUOTE] Did you check out her links page? > **[Jenna Elfman](https://www.jennaelfman.com/?fa=links)** > > JennaElfman.com - Official Website of Jenna Elfman with the latest updates on Jenna, her television and film projects, photos, bio and more. You might have to buy an “I heart L. Ron” t-shirt. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/198 "2007-03-31T17:58:11Z")
[QUOTE=Caridwen] Did you check out her links page? > **[Jenna Elfman](https://www.jennaelfman.com/?fa=links)** > > JennaElfman.com - Official Website of Jenna Elfman with the latest updates on Jenna, her television and film projects, photos, bio and more. You might have to buy an “I heart L. Ron” t-shirt. 😃 [/QUOTE] Aw shit. ☹ Been lusting after Dharma for years, and now I learn she’s played by a wingnut. _sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/199 "2007-03-31T18:33:33Z")
[QUOTE=Oy!] OK, so let me get this straight. **gonzomax** justifies the unwarranted blaming of **tomndebb** for the manifold sins of the RCC by virtue of OJ Simpson’s acquital for a murder he obviously committed? God, and I thought I was confused before! [/QUOTE] No south park ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/200 "2007-03-31T18:51:03Z")
[QUOTE=Polycarp] He isn’t due to make the bi-annual post explaining this yet, so let me summarize it: Back in the Clinton era, a married couple signed up for AOL; their names were Tom and Deb B. Deb has found better ways to occupy her time than making posts on a message board, but Tom continues to do so, using the same name he has used since before this board was founded on AOL. Every two years, he explains that to someone who wonders about it. There are a few others around in the same boat: **Gusnspot** comes to mind (Spot, being a motorcycle, has never attempted to post). I’m not sure about **Kimstu**. And we won’t mention **Heffalump and Roo**. [/QUOTE] Or your handle, which means “many fish”. Or mine, which means “please demonstrate to Daniel”. Regards, Shodan [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857.md?page=11)