# I noticed I still have some time left, Tomndeb

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 28, 2007, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857 "2007-03-28T17:34:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![enigm4tic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@enigm4tic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enigm4tic)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/81 "2007-03-29T00:12:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Ol’Gaffer]  
Hmmm, let’s see…haven’t we heard this all before?

Step 1: Start ridiculous pit thread.  
Step 2: Backpedal when it doesn’t go as planned.  
Step 3: Play the IQ card.  
Step 4: Clarify what you really, really, deep down inside meant.  
Step 5: Play the “cyberloser” card.  
Step 6: Continue to obsess over the thread contents long after everyone has forgotten who the OP even was.  
Step 7: Fun and profit!!

::yawn::

Tis true, there really is nothing new under the sun.  
[/QUOTE]

Point in case, I’m pretty sure even the Ancient Greeks wrote something like this, and everybody knows nothing new has been written since those times… :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/82 "2007-03-29T00:15:52Z")

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[QUOTE=tomndebb]  
This is frustrating. One more **Pit** thread with my name in the title that I am not able to include in my count.  
[/QUOTE]

Couldn’t you at least ask for a quarter point?

But then, considering the caliber of your recent pittings, I suspect you’re edging into negative numbers.

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/83 "2007-03-29T00:22:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Nonsense. Your arguments are as good as any. Better than most. You’re open minded, fair, and well tempered. You have a lot going for you, Kimo Sabe.  
[/QUOTE]

😕 Are there a lot of magic mushrooms growing near you, **Lib**? Because, really, they’ll make you imagine things.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/84 "2007-03-29T00:28:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Are there a lot of magic mushrooms growing near you, **Lib**? Because, really, they’ll make you imagine things.  
[/QUOTE]  
😃

Well, I think you make good arguments too. I like a variety of styles, from Poly’s microscopically detailed citations to Tris’s shrugs and smiles made of poetry. I think that if you look closely, you’ll see in Contrapuntal a certain ability to empathize with others. For effective debating, that is as important an attribute as any. He is also growing over time. Almost all of us bring something positive to the table. Lately, I’ve begun giving more of an effort to figuring out what that is in everyone.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/85 "2007-03-29T00:30:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
😕 Are there a lot of magic mushrooms growing near you, **Lib**? Because, really, they’ll make you imagine things.  
[/QUOTE]

Out of curiosity, what issues do you have with **Contrapuntal**? I find him to be a generally intelligent and insightful poster, myself. Or are you just being an overly judgmental twat as you seem so often wont to do?

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/86 "2007-03-29T00:30:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Valteron]

But for what it is worth, I will resubscribe, stick around and express the truth until you ban me. So what if I am out a few $$$. It is worth it.

[/QUOTE]

Well my suggestion is you don’t wait until you resubscribe to express the truth.

You could start in this very thread right now. What a nice change it will be.

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/87 "2007-03-29T00:57:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Valteron]  
When did I call Tomndeb my nemisis? When did I say I was punishing him by resubscribing? Are you seeing words that are not there? You may challenge my intelligence, but if you are reading words I never wrote, you may have a problem with your eyes.  
[/QUOTE]

Maybe he’s reading between the lines.

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/88 "2007-03-29T01:00:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Q.E.D.]  
Out of curiosity, what issues do you have with **Contrapuntal**? I find him to be a generally intelligent and insightful poster, myself. Or are you just being an overly judgmental twat as you seem so often wont to do?  
[/QUOTE]

My experience with his ‘insight’ is repeatedly having been called a liar myself because he failed to comprehend the answer he had been given and observing him call someone else a liar over something similarly lacking in substance or information.

ETA: seems it’s a word he’s fond of; 47 posts have him using it.

I didn’t know much of him, but what I’ve seen hasn’t impressed me at all. It was him being judgmental that put me off. I’m willing to change my opinion, but I’d need to see better from him than I have thus far.

[QUOTE=Liberal]

Almost all of us bring something positive to the table. Lately, I’ve begun giving more of an effort to figuring out what that is in everyone.  
[/QUOTE]

🙂 I can’t fault you for that 🙂

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/89 "2007-03-29T01:01:52Z")

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I don’t actually know Valteron at all, I don’t care about his presence/absence from this board. However, whenever I see a post of his, I am drawn to the strange titles he is wont to place above his entries.

What’s the deal with [SIZE=2] **tomndebb** anyhow? Is he some kind of anti-anti-christ or what?[/SIZE]

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/90 "2007-03-29T01:05:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
My experience with his ‘insight’ is repeatedly having been called a liar myself because he failed to comprehend the answer he had been given and observing him call someone else a liar over something similarly lacking in substance or information.  
[/QUOTE]

You got some links for those of us with no time to wade through hundreds of posts looking for examples?

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/91 "2007-03-29T01:06:44Z")

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I’m intrigued about why someone who has suuuuuch a high IQ\* can’t even manage to spell the usernames of people he is directly responding to (in some cases where he’s even quoted them in his own posts!) correctly.

\*that is clearly blowing us all out of the water, it’s so high he can’t even tell us what it is!

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/92 "2007-03-29T01:06:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Valteron]  
My IQ scores beg to differ.  
[/QUOTE]  
Well, my coffee mug refutes your IQ scores. But then my stapler thumbs its nose at my coffee mug. And now my desk calendar is trying to lead everyone in a folk song. It’s all so confusing!

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/93 "2007-03-29T01:15:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Sublight]  
Well, my coffee mug refutes your IQ scores. But then my stapler thumbs its nose at my coffee mug. And now my desk calendar is trying to lead everyone in a folk song. It’s all so confusing!  
[/QUOTE]

The piano has been drinking/  
my necktie is asleep/  
the combo went back to New York/  
the jukebox needs to take a leak

the carpet needs a haircut/  
and the spotlight looks just like a prison break/  
the telephone’s out of cigarettes/  
the balcony is on the make

the piano has been drinking/  
not me

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/94 "2007-03-29T01:40:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Garfield226]  
the piano has been drinking/  
not me  
[/QUOTE]

Heh. I flashed on:

veal cutlet walked down the counter and beat the shit out of my cup of coffee…  
coffee just wasn’t strong enough to defend itself

This thread can only be improved with the inclusion of some Tom Waits lyrics.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/95 "2007-03-29T02:05:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Frank]

This thread can only be improved with the inclusion of some Tom Waits lyrics.  
[/QUOTE]

And this:

[http://www.threebrain.com/weeeeee.shtml](http://www.threebrain.com/weeeeee.shtml)

Note: Prolly NSFW, may get you fired, jailed, deported, or pregnant.

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/96 "2007-03-29T02:09:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Q.E.D.]  
You got some links for those of us with no time to wade through hundreds of posts looking for examples?  
[/QUOTE]

Easy peasy. Do a search on username C **Contrapuntal** and keyword ‘liar’.

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**Author:** ![Hakuna\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hakuna\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hakuna_Matata)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/97 "2007-03-29T02:30:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Q.E.D.]  
Out of curiosity, what issues do you have with **Contrapuntal**? I find him to be a generally intelligent and insightful poster, myself. Or are you just being an overly judgmental twat as you seem so often wont to do?  
[/QUOTE]

I would say it started with this thread—that is when I first noticed it myself.

> **[Is punctuality a choice?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=406731)**
>
> To mitigate my slight hijacking of this thread My friends who are late for lunch dates My friends who are late for lunch dates - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board found in the Pit, let’s explore punctuality vs. habitually late viewpoints...

his final response to her in that thread

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8254012&postcount=620](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8254012&postcount=620)  
On the last page he basically called her on her inability to answer his question. She maintains she answered it–and he has maintains she didn’t and she weaseled out of the thread. Seems he called her on it again in one of the patented "liberal’ thread too.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/98 "2007-03-29T02:56:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Hakuna Matata]  
IOn the last page he basically called her on her inability to answer his question. She maintains she answered it–and he has maintains she didn’t and she weaseled out of the thread. Seems he called her on it again in one of the patented "liberal’ thread too.  
[/QUOTE]

Oh, _that_ chestnut. Yeah, I’m on his side in that one.

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/99 "2007-03-29T03:06:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Hakuna Matata]

> **[Is punctuality a choice?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=406731)**
>
> To mitigate my slight hijacking of this thread My friends who are late for lunch dates My friends who are late for lunch dates - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board found in the Pit, let’s explore punctuality vs. habitually late viewpoints...

[/quote]

Right. The thread in which everybody was explaining why they should be nasty to people who are late where I was the one saying they shouldn’t be so judgmental. :rolleyes:

> [@](#):
>
> On the last page he basically called her on her inability to answer his question. She maintains she answered it–and he has maintains she didn’t.

He utterly failed to comprehend what he was told and continued to ask a stupid question based on his total lack of understanding. And he’s called others liars as well. Refusing to deal with someone who can’t comprehend a point is not ‘weasling out’. It’s ignoring a gnat.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-noticed-i-still-have-some-time-left-tomndeb/397857/100 "2007-03-29T03:14:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Hakuna Matata]  
On the last page he basically called her on her inability to answer his question. She maintains she answered it–and he has maintains she didn’t and she weaseled out of the thread. Seems he called her on it again in one of the patented "liberal’ thread too.  
[/QUOTE]

I’ll help there.

\*\*Contrapuntal \*\*to **Quiddity Glomfuster** : [You’re still a fucking liar.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8305490&postcount=86) in the [A note on the (now closed) thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=410203&page=1&pp=50) which was started by **Quiddity Glomfuster**. And IMO was closed much too quickly, but mercifully, I guess.

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