I Now Have a Source for Lamb - Help and Suggestions Please

I just got back from my local Marsh supermarket (coincidental, not because of this thread) and I happened to notice the tray of lamb chops as I was picking out the pork shoulder I’m making for tomorrow. Then when I was in the frozen section not only was there a special on turkey breasts, there were also probably a dozen whole turkeys, a couple of smoked turkeys, turkey “roasts” (I assume pressed, processed turkey something), capon, duck, goose, and Cornish game hens.

I’m pretty sure some of the other things you mention like camel, horse, and kangaroo are not very common pretty much anywhere in the US, not just Indiana. I’m really surprised that in NW Indiana (I assume you are somewhere in “the Region”) your stores aren’t the same.

Maybe Chicago sucks the lamb supply out of my neighborhood. It could be that those wanting “exotic” meats just skip over the Big City and get them there, so it’s not cost-effective for the locals to supply them?

Nope. Asked. The local butchers will not special order “exotic” meats, they deal ONLY in beef, chicken, and pork. The local grocery stores won’t do it, either. I find it all very peculiar myself. The attitude seems to be “if you want that drive to Chicago or Indy for it, but don’t bother us”.

And… we have another recipe with tomatoes in it - seriously, you guys trying to kill me? :stuck_out_tongue:

Now you know why I would really like a reliable tomato substitute.

Hmm… given that I live amongst the steel mills and depressed areas, perhaps it’s more a sign of proto-food desert than anything else?

I expect I’ll have to move in a few years, wonder if I moved out towards Porter Country there’s be more options?

In my defense, I had just crawled out of bed and I hadn’t had coffee yet! And the other recipes don’t have tomatoes. :wink:

You might try it without tomatoes. It wouldn’t be as good, but you’d still have fat-infused beans. (Yum.)

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Obviously nothing will taste the same but probably some mixture of canned pumpkin or squash puree (or chopped depending on the needs of the recipe) and chopped red or yellow bell peppers, maybe with some chopped zukes might make for some good eating in recipes where tomatoes are listed … maybe add a bit of cider vinegar to get the touch of acid that tomatoes add. Depending on the recipe throwing some citrus fruit as part of that substitute mix might work well too.

If you are in (or close to) Gary, I’m surprised there is even a store open near you :slight_smile:

Sorry if any of my posts seemed harsh, I guess I’ve got a bit of a chip on my shoulder about Indiana lacking in whatever. I’ve lived here almost all of my life, but I work with a global group of clients, and whenever they hear I’m from Indiana they suddenly think I’m some rube from the back waters of nowhere. I have to convince them that I do actually watch the same cable TV channels that they do, I do have access to that thing called the internet, and yes we do actually have access to those things that some people seem to think don’t exist in the flyover states (we get the exact same iGadget the exact same day as everyone else). Maybe we’re later than some in the new trends, but really I don’t think it matters too much if leg warmers were big in '77 on the west coast or '79 here (sorry, not really sure when they were big anywhere but you hopefully get the point).

Some things we actually get ahead of the others. I remember eating food prepared by this young chef named Wolfgang Puck before anyone on either coast knew who he was. Of course, he later went on to lament that he had never prepared more well done steaks then when he was in Indiana, but I’m pretty sure that isn’t what got him noticed. I also remember this guy named David Letterman when he was just a really funny weatherman.

And no, I don’t own a cow or a pig, nor do I have a cornfield in my back yard.

Now, if you were insulting Kansas I can fully understand.

Yup, one of my two mailing addresses is in Gary. I’m actually in unincorporated Lake County, sort of a limbo-land between suburbs and Gary.

For a city on the ropes Gary actually does have sufficient grocery stores, but they tend to be rather basic, and with such a high percentage of people on food stamps around here the meats (as well as everything else) tend to be towards the cheaper end of the scale.

I do have neighbors with cornfields, geese, chickens, goats… we’re a bizarre cross between urban and rural around here.

See if you can get a goat. They’re yummy.

So… do you have recipes for goat, too?

I made gyros using this recipe last night. I cheated a bit, and substituted beef for half the meat — I believe that’s what most of the restaurants around here do, as well. It was yummy.

I didn’t feel like busting out the food processor, so I just grated the onions, and mixed it in my stand mixer, and it came out just fine. Essentially you’re just making a meat loaf.

Oh man, thanks for linking to Chefguy’s balls Johnny. I made them waaaaaaaaay back in the day and didn’t bookmark it (or I did and didn’t import them to the new computer). Wahoo!

Eva Luna, that recipe is just…wow. I’m gonna need to round up some willing participants for a dinner party soon :slight_smile:

I came to post this exact recipe, which I’ve made from the Gourmet cookbook.
This recipe for Braised Lamb Shanks with White Beans, from the same source, is also a classic.

My husband is from the middle east and is a big lamb eater. I would even say that is his preferred meat over beef or chicken. He won’t eat pork, I don’t understand it, all a pig is good for is because it tastes good, why waste a creature the good Lord put on the earth, but that’s a whole nother story. Anyways, I have two recipies in particular that I would recommend for you. The first one is a nice lamb and bean soup:

Have the butcher cut a shoulder up in small pieces, leave the bones in.
In a big heavy soup pot brown the meat in a good amount of olive oil
add some chopped onion and lots of chopped garlic

I usually add about 2 tablespoons of tomato paste next, but I’m sure it will be just as good without.

When your onions are nice and soft add in water, and white beans (cannellini, navy, white kidneys, whatever)

if you are using soaked dried beans, or canned both will work, but you will, of course need more water and need to cook it longer for the dry beans

throw in lots of oregano, crushed red pepper, and black pepper, I do not add salt until the beans are done

Usually, we tear up a couple pieces of pita bread and throw it in the bottom of the bowl and pour the soup on top.

It is simple, but super good.

My other recipe I would suggest is lamb kebabs, but they are not on a stick

take about a pound of ground lamb, add lots of mint and oregano (I do not suggest fresh herbs for this), some cumin, lots of black pepper and lots of chopped garlic, some salt, add 2-3 tablespoons of flour and mix it very well don’t worry about overmixing

the flour should be enough to get it to hold its shape, you may need a little more

shape into small oblong patties and grill or broil, its almost meatbally, so no cooking it rare

also eaten with pita bread, but sandwich-like, I fix a relish tray with lettuce, parsley, onion, cucumber, green onion, tomato (or not), and if you can get some pickled turnips they are great
as is some sliced feta cheese

I hope you enjoy one or both of these:)

I think it is worth mentioning as well that you should check their prices on other meat. I have been shopping at a halal butcher for some years and I see that most of the customers at the one I shop at are not from around here. Here’s the thing though, different people find different pieces to be the choicer cut of meat. I don’t know what they find as the choice cut of beef, but it is not steaks. I can get filet for 8.99/lb, thats a heck of a deal, but they are limited on the supply. Even at that price, I’m not eating steak every day, but I can swing it once in a while. Actually I more often go for the ribeye, which my shop sells for 7.99/lb. If you are into liver at all, I am told that lamb liver is the best. I don’t really have an opinion on that myself though.

I love my meat store because it is a real butcher, there are sides of beef and goats and lambs hanging up and they will cut to order whatever I want, exactly how I want. Nothing is sitting in a cooler wrapped and ready and getting handled and monkeyed with or whatever.

Edit: The smaller leg or shoulder will be more tender, if slightly more expensive due to meat:bone ratio, also, the soup, like any bean soup is even more wonderful the next day

About the only thing I can think of for tomato juice and sauce and the like would be chicken broth, thickened as needed. It certainly won’t taste the same, but I find that it boosts the flavor of just about any savory dish.

I use it in the same preparations i use lamb, though it seems to be leaner so I am careful about keeping the temp low when I am making it into a stew.

My favorite goat stew is just sauteed onions and garlic, browned goat stew meat, carrots and potatoes, beef stock. A little salt, pepper, and cinnamon or allspice. I sometimes add tomatoes, sometimes don’t. I recommend you don’t.

ETA - deglaze with some red wine and/or a little vinegar to add acid, especially since yours won’t have tomatoes in it.

Lamb is my favourite meat. Yummy! I’m glad I’ve never found a supermarket that didn’t sell it!