# I object to JohnClay's very existence and everything he stands for **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 24, 2014, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965 "2014-07-24T19:57:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2014, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/21 "2014-07-24T23:22:08Z")
> [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#): > > He used to be the perfect mix of hilarious, frightening and just sane enough that you didn’t feel like an asshole for enjoying it. Could be said about Wildest Bill at one time as well. I hear ya, Andros. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2014, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/22 "2014-07-24T23:28:15Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > … > If people stopped only posting things like, “Why are you here?” “Why are you posting this?” “OMG go away” “This is the dumbest thread ever?” and actually interacted with him in a message-boardy way he might become a better poster. … This is exactly how we normally interact with anyone in a normal message-boardy way. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/23 "2014-07-25T00:13:37Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Anyone think he might just be a troll, albeit a weird one? A troll, get one over on Dopers? That’ll be the day! ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/24 "2014-07-25T00:18:59Z")
Yes JohnClay is a worry… BTW I first started threads here in 2002: Threads started from 2002-2004: For parents who refuse to ever hit their kids… For PARENTS who refuse to EVER swat their kids… Why did the price of RAM double? You are subscribed to this thread What’s in sausages, meat pies, pet food, etc? Fullbody tingling due to epiphanies - what’s the science and what’s it called? You are subscribed to this thread What if basically all school class were based on ability, not age… You are subscribed to this thread If the long lifespans in the Bible aren’t literal, what do they mean? Looking for french 70/80’s song title (got some lyrics) You are subscribed to this thread How can the creation week last for 6 days if the earth is old? To copyright lawyers: Objectivist ethics and the Heinz dilemmas Can fans who modify video games to include copyrighted characters be sued? Why do national suicide rates vary so much? Is lying allowed when asked “are you a cop”? (Multi-page thread 1 2) Touching and electron/nucleus collisions? New reality TV show - Men unknowingly date drag queen? (Multi-page thread 1 2) Can you use USB 2.0 card on USB 1.1 computer? Pronouncing “H” as “Haych”? Medical term for 2 dimples above butt? Is there an operation to stop male ejaculation? Are colder temperatures evidence for Global Warming & why? Trademark infringment & modified public domain cartoons Australian/US film copyright questions Any Mac users switch their fingers on their one-button mouse? Can RSI be reduced by changing mouse fingers on one hand? Unknown UK? 80’s/90’s sci-fi show… Fake X-Ray glasses? Equipment for hanging upside-down? Quantum physics and “observers”… Australian digital TV (technical) Radioactive decay…? Evolutionary Psychology explanation for pointless creativity? The legality of defacing money in different countries? 3D card memory - 128 Mb vs. 64 Mb… Gradually losing the ability to classify specific animals? Can drugs help those with painful terminal illnesses? 80’s cartoon about blue boy elephant? Non-supernatural explanation for a religious vision while driving? You are subscribed to this thread Brain activity before we have new thoughts… U.S. grammar - can a comma preceed “and”? What’s the best palette reduction program/source code? A blind, deaf female writer…? Human reflex and reaction times The “observer” and quantum theory ? Visual Perception questions “Act of God” clause in warranties/insurance Armpit hair and body odor How do you do the spoon bending trick? Ancient Hebrews’ knowledge of the earth’s shape Then suddenly: Is your love life more depressing than mine? > **[Is your love life more depressing than mine?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=293841)** > > (BTW, don’t worry about trying to fix my problem. I’ll figure it out somehow, or get help, or at least I can laugh to myself in a crazed way) Short version: 26 and never been on a date or experienced mutual romantic affection (a kiss, etc) \[I’m not... **People were very supportive. I guess it encouraged me to start introspective threads…** BTW it’s a bit like a kid - if they have a tantrum and the parent gives in the child would be encouraged to do it again, even if the parent tries to stop them in the future. Parenting is about consistency, at least according to the Supernanny. Anyway after my depressing thread I started to become manic and was believing in the possibility of magic… then I started this thread: I’m Satan at the moment > **[I'm Satan at the moment](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=406060)** > > Hi, I’m Satan at this point in time and I know the secrets of life. THE LAW OF REALITY EVERYTHING happens for a Good logical reason. The secret of eternal life on earth is to not break any commandments in the Bible, tempt others, be selfish, don’t... ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/25 "2014-07-25T00:27:26Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Most people find it difficult to kick a man who isn’t down. What about **Broomstick**? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/26 "2014-07-25T00:30:53Z")
The gays seem like a very nice bunch of guys, **John**. I’m sure they’ll welcome you gladly. As long as you’re hot, at least. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/27 "2014-07-25T00:32:52Z")
> [@Rachellelogram](#): > > …Anyway, dude is annoying. Get a blog, already! Would the blog be on another site? If so would I be allowed to advertise it here? ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/28 "2014-07-25T00:37:11Z")
BTW I had been manic in 2000 before I started posting all those fairly normal threads. I hadn’t believed in magic yet though. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/29 "2014-07-25T00:43:11Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > Would the blog be on another site? If so would I be allowed to advertise it here? Maybe. How good are you at designing malware? ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/30 "2014-07-25T00:45:00Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Anyone think he might just be a troll, albeit a weird one? I can’t believe that anyone thinks he might NOT be a troll. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/31 "2014-07-25T01:15:01Z")
> [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#): > > …\*\*John Clay \*\*used to be my all time favorite poster but he’s gotten really really boring lately. He used to be the perfect mix of hilarious, frightening and just sane enough that you didn’t feel like an asshole for enjoying it. What were your favorite threads of mine? You can do a search for threads I’ve started… thanks. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/32 "2014-07-25T01:19:50Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > I can’t believe that anyone thinks he might NOT be a troll. BTW recently my doctor said something about watching out for trolls on the messageboards. I lamented that lots of people think I’m a troll… ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/33 "2014-07-25T01:36:05Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > …Then suddenly: > Is your love life more depressing than mine? > [Is your love life more depressing than mine? - Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=293841) > > **People were very supportive. I guess it encouraged me to start introspective threads…** Though it was the first thread of its kind I’d started, it was about the most introspective thread I’ve written. I also used people’s real names - something that I’ve been avoiding. I even said “I went to a legal brothel once - but I didn’t blow my load” I mean I was quite sexually explicit. And yet people were very supportive. Post number 18 said: > [@](#): > > The pre-teen comment is a little disturbing. You don’t want to be one of those wierdos picking up underage girls on the internet, only to go over to their house and find Stone Philips there with his camera crew. But it seems to be directed towards Beware of Doug… ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/34 "2014-07-25T01:42:11Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > BTW recently my doctor said something about watching out for trolls on the messageboards. Mine said something about watching out for trolls under bridges, like I shouldn’t because trolls aren’t real. I miss my hallucinations. ☹ **JohnClay** , speaking as someone who has overshared now and then (weekly?) I am happy that you are here to draw the flak. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/35 "2014-07-25T02:24:54Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > BTW I had been manic in 2000 before I started posting all those fairly normal threads. I hadn’t believed in magic yet though. Just curious, do you drive? Are you on the road with a car? ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/36 "2014-07-25T02:59:18Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > BTW recently my doctor said something about watching out for trolls on the messageboards. I lamented that lots of people think I’m a troll… No he didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/37 "2014-07-25T03:19:21Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Anyone think he might just be a troll, albeit a weird one? That con’s so long, and thanks for all the fish. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/38 "2014-07-25T03:48:52Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > Just curious, do you drive? Are you on the road with a car? I have a car - not at my house though - and I drive it sometimes. Otherwise I go on buses or get rides. BTW I often go on the Internet while I’m a passenger - like I am right now. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/39 "2014-07-25T07:22:02Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > > [@JohnClay](#): > > > > BTW recently my doctor said something about watching out for trolls on the messageboards. I lamented that lots of people think I’m a troll… > > No he didn’t. Actually as far as I can recall, I’ve NEVER lied or said anything misleading on these forums. On the other hand I do it too often in real life but if I didn’t my life would be more lonely… also in the past people have found out I’ve had a mental illness due to me trying not to be misleading and those situations didn’t end well. On the other hand I guess this thread is meant for JohnClay’s critics so carry on… ---
**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/40 "2014-07-25T08:11:55Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > I can’t believe that anyone thinks he might NOT be a troll. There’s as much chance that he might be as that he isn’t. I’ve never seen him exhibit the traditional troll behaviours though. I’ve never seen him threadshit, nor enter a thread and goad or harass other posters, I’ve never seen him deliberately flaunt the rules (apart from perhaps once or twice the special \*\*JohnClay \*\*rules). So if he is, at least he’s novel. Anyway, you’d think that after 13 years the smartest place on the internet would’ve figured it out by now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965.md?page=3)