# I object to JohnClay's very existence and everything he stands for

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 24, 2014, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965 "2014-07-24T19:57:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/101 "2014-07-26T06:26:27Z")

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> [@Incubus](#):
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> Why would you consider your wife a 5?

You can probably guess why.

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> That’s so mean spirited…

It’s like there being a cooking show where the judges give a dish a 3/10. They’re meant to judge it objectively, not worry about whether the cook would feel upset about the score. In their speech they could try and soften the blow though.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/102 "2014-07-26T06:34:56Z")

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> [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#):
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> Bell Labs is based in Murray Hill New Jersey, not midtown Manhattan.

Lucent was behind Inferno and “Lucent also operated from 666 Fifth Avenue, NY”

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> The entire product was named based on hellish references. It’s one of the things that made it so stupid. But it was a fully explicit and intentional naming scheme. You didn’t crack some code…

If it was such an obvious and real connection why did someone post this:

> **[Talk:Lucent Technologies](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lucent&diff=589760570&oldid=589757014)**
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> The result of the move request was: Moved in the absence of any objections Colin M (talk) 18:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)\[reply\]
> Lucent → Lucent Technologies – Usually I am more in favour of shorter names, but in this case I think that the longer name is better. Lucent used "Technologies" in their logo. And it makes it more clear it is about a technology company. PhotographyEdits (talk) 13:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)\[reply\]

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> …is a mental patient with paranoid delusions about Lucent. You can read his full background at this off site discussion forum: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16995012](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16995012) He’s someone sincerely in need of professional help, but meanwhile let’s not edit Wikipedia to feed his delusions…

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/103 "2014-07-26T06:38:04Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> But you don’t have a cheating partner, you have a wife you love very much. So you should respect her wishes, whatever they are.

Well her wishes are… I can’t say since that would involve talking about her…

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**Author:** ![orangeapples](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@orangeapples](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orangeapples)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/104 "2014-07-26T06:48:44Z")

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> [@JohnClay](#):
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> {_snip_} good decisions come from experience and experience comes from bad decisions. It could also come from reading self-help books.

> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Awesome.

Agreed. How is that not a t-shirt already?

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/105 "2014-07-26T08:22:37Z")

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> [@JohnClay](#):
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> If it was such an obvious and real connection why did someone post this:  
> [Talk:Lucent Technologies: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lucent&diff=589760570&oldid=589757014)

Sorry, but that made me laugh. 😃

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/106 "2014-07-26T08:38:07Z")

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Okay, he’s definitely trolling here: [Don't be impatient with poo - Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=729495)  
:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/107 "2014-07-26T08:42:15Z")

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What’s left? Will he start a thread to inform us that’s he’s breathing?

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**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/108 "2014-07-26T08:44:11Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> Okay, he’s definitely trolling here: [Don't be impatient with poo - Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=729495)  
> :rolleyes:

It’s hard to come to a different conclusion.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/109 "2014-07-26T08:46:33Z")

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That poo thread involved a situation that actually happened. I found it interesting I thought others might too. Remember that it isn’t about a typical poo. It is about a long-winded and bloody poo.

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**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/110 "2014-07-26T08:51:33Z")

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_sigh_

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/111 "2014-07-26T08:55:54Z")

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Done and dusted folks! Whilst there might have been doubt before, there ain’t none now.

It only took 13 years, but the fuckhead has been outed! May you enjoy the rest of your days **JohnClay** , with your finger up your arse trying to extract the shit. Don’t forget, beyond the first clump, there’s always more.

Keep digging!! :: rolleyes ::

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/112 "2014-07-26T09:11:32Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> …It only took 13 years, but the fuckhead has been outed!..

> **[Restricted language in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858)**
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> The following expressions should not be directed at other posters. cunt and variants, e.g., cuntlapper motherfucker cocksucker fuck you and variants, e.g., go fuck yourself, fuck off and die suck/lick my dick/cock and variants Expressions not...

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> …The following expressions should not be directed at other posters.
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> cunt and variants, e.g., cuntlapper  
> motherfucker  
> cocksucker  
> fuck you and variants, e.g., go fuck yourself, fuck off and die  
> suck/lick my dick/cock and variants…

Hmmm… well I guess fuckhead isn’t explicitly in that list… and I guess he wasn’t talking directly to me…

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/113 "2014-07-26T09:30:40Z")

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> [@JohnClay](#):
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> That poo thread involved a situation that actually happened. I found it interesting I thought others might too. Remember that it isn’t about a typical poo. It is about a long-winded and bloody poo.

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> I said that my poo went badly and eventually explained why. They didn’t want to know.

If they didn’t want to know at home, why did you think we would? That’s it, I’m not reading any more of your threads. There’s such a thing as over-sharing.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/114 "2014-07-26T09:37:25Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> If they didn’t want to know at home, why did you think we would?

It was just one person’s opinion. They could have been wrong…

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> That’s it, I’m not reading any more of your threads. There’s such a thing as over-sharing.

Those poo books seem to be somewhat popular though since that guy has written four of them.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/115 "2014-07-26T09:39:32Z")

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This is about “the 18 types of Internet trolls”:  
[http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/articles/18-types-of-internet-trolls](http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/articles/18-types-of-internet-trolls)

I’m not sure which one I might be… (if I had to be classified as a troll) maybe

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> 1. The Never-Give-Up, Never-Surrender Troll
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> This troll is ALWAYS right and will battle to the death to prove it. There’s no point in trying to fight her. If she can’t back something up with reality, she’ll make something up, just to show you how wrong you are.

Except that I don’t make things up in these forums and I’m not a “she”.

> **[How to Survive 4 Types of Troll Attacks](https://nerdsnfurs.wordpress.com/a-hyperlinkers-guide-to-the-internet/how-to-survive-4-types-of-troll-attacks/)**
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> We’ve all seen them; hateful little creatures that roam the vast planes of online message boards and the caves of social networking sites. Trolls, ugly monsters who feed on hate and sorrow. T…

I wonder if I could be called guilty of any of these 4 “troll attacks”…

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/116 "2014-07-26T09:45:47Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> If they didn’t want to know at home, why did you think we would?..

They later brought up the topic a few times though.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/117 "2014-07-26T09:47:32Z")

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BTW my investigation into evidence that I might be a troll is based on this:  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17579422&postcount=41](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17579422&postcount=41)

> [@](#):
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> …Alas, JohnClay has the self-awareness of a squished slug. Or he’s a troll. I think, given the two choices, I’d rather be described as a troll…

So I’m trying to be self-aware.

But if I don’t have the self-awareness of a squished slug am I a troll…? :eek:

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/118 "2014-07-26T09:59:02Z")

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> **[Trolling / Troll | Know Your Meme](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/trolling-troll)**
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> Troll or Trolling is a slang term used to describe any internet user or their behavior that is meant to intentionally anger or frustrate someone else, thou

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> …Trolling is an Internet slang term used to describe any Internet user behavior that is meant to intentionally anger or frustrate someone else…

I don’t want anyone to be angered or frustrated but on the other hand I don’t want to stop expressing myself in my own little way. Maybe it is like someone talking about religion or politics to someone who has a different opinion. It is likely that there could be some anger or frustration but they still want to have the conversation anyway if they can.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/119 "2014-07-26T10:00:13Z")

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> [@JohnClay](#):
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> It was just one person’s opinion. They could have been wrong…  
> Those poo books seem to be somewhat popular though since that guy has written four of them.

I’m not interested in reading books about poo, either.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/120 "2014-07-26T10:01:41Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> I’m not interested in reading books about poo, either.

Party pooper.

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