# I object to JohnClay's very existence and everything he stands for **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 24, 2014, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965 "2014-07-24T19:57:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2014, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/161 "2014-07-27T22:02:15Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I am either nonplussed (American definition) or disgusted by most of what JohnClay posts under his own OP’s. But as far as I can tell, he’s never said an unkind word about anyone here. Of course he hasn’t. He doesn’t give a crap (pun intended, or not, whichever makes me look better) about anyone but himself–in his “real life” assuming it exists as written, or his board life. How many times has he posted in someone else’s thread, on a topic other than himself? He is among the most narcissistic posters we’ve had here, and believe me that’s a pretty tough record to beat. Whether he’s a troll or not, he’s definitely a one-trick pony. What makes _me_ believe him to be a troll is that his threads are increasingly pushing the boundaries of taste and outrageousness, and (IMHO) he’s doing that _purposely_ in an obnoxious attempt trying to garner attention. I don’t care what page(s) of the DSM-V match his psychological issues. One-trick ponies are almost always strongly moderated and eventually banned. It beggars belief that this hasn’t happened yet, _especially_ after the thread that inspired the OP here. Before he composed that, I can almost hear his febrile little mind saying, _Hmm, they won’t let me post TMI about sex, huh? Let’s see what **else** I can be TMI about so I can pull in the suckers!_ Sadly, it works every time. Not just because the mods aren’t willing to corral this particular pony, but–if I may use another metaphor–because we are the attention-johns for this attention-whore. Without the customers, he’d have to find another streetcorner from which to peddle his noxious, creepy wares. But damn it, we just keep going back no matter what virtual cooties he infects us with. _Edited to add:_ And as an editorial aside, nope, that isn’t the “American” definition of nonplussed. You’re using the _correct_ definition! _Nonplussed_ means astonished, taken aback, surprised. It’s only people who are confused by the seeming negative prefix “non” who think it means _not_ surprised. In fact, that usage is the one more common here in the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2014, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/162 "2014-07-27T22:08:25Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > And yet, I’ve only been here since 2006 and I have. Well you seem to read threads that need moderation where someone might do some “junior moderation”. Also you’ve posted 9000 times and probably read more posts than I do. > [@](#): > > Then you need to read other threads besides your own. I said “I usually only read my own threads or ones that don’t involve any “junior moderation”.” So I have been reading other threads - they’re just ones that don’t involve “junior moderation” - e.g. most threads in General Questions. > [@](#): > > No “perhaps” about it. No I’ve never lied on these message boards. > [@](#): > > Sound familiar? Yes in an earlier post I said I might be that one except that I don’t make things up and I’m not a “she”. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2014, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/163 "2014-07-27T22:10:49Z")
LOL @ “Attention Johns” - of course there would have to be some! ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2014, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/164 "2014-07-27T22:20:11Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > LOL @ “Attention Johns” - of course there would have to be some! Well, I’m a reformed John as of now. Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff in it @ “one-trick” pony. That’s exactly what we’ve got here. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2014, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/165 "2014-07-27T22:20:11Z")
> [@choie](#): > > …Whether he’s a troll or not, he’s definitely a one-trick pony… See: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17578641&postcount=24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17578641&postcount=24) and [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17579858&postcount=53](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17579858&postcount=53) > [@](#): > > What makes _me_ believe him to be a troll is that his threads are increasingly pushing the boundaries of taste and outrageousness, and (IMHO) he’s doing that _purposely_ in an obnoxious attempt trying to garner attention. At least I don’t swear - unless I’m quoting someone else… ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2014, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/166 "2014-07-27T22:22:12Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > See: > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17578641&postcount=24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17578641&postcount=24) > and > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17579858&postcount=53](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17579858&postcount=53) > > At least I don’t swear - unless I’m quoting someone else… LOL! Not all trolls swear. They’re usually the target of the cursing and seem to thrive on it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2014, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/167 "2014-07-27T22:25:28Z")
Well if I was “pushing the boundaries of taste and outrageousness” then I could have gotten further by swearing. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2014, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/168 "2014-07-27T22:29:14Z")
BTW lots of other people get away with swearing… I don’t really have a reason not to swear here (except for my own personal hang up) ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2014, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/169 "2014-07-27T22:34:53Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > No I’ve never lied on these message boards. So, you really are Satan? ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/170 "2014-07-28T02:52:36Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > So, you really are Satan? There’s a difference between having a delusion or incorrect belief and lying. Also I wrote: > **[I'm Satan at the moment](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=406060)** > > Hi, I’m Satan at this point in time and I know the secrets of life. THE LAW OF REALITY EVERYTHING happens for a Good logical reason. The secret of eternal life on earth is to not break any commandments in the Bible, tempt others, be selfish, don’t... > [@](#): > > …I’m Satan **at this point in time** … > [@](#): > > …Anyone want to be my servant or be **another** Satan?.. This suggests I didn’t believe I was the one and only Satan. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/171 "2014-07-28T11:13:48Z")
Well, that all makes perfect sense then. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/172 "2014-07-28T11:56:56Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > There’s a difference between having a delusion or incorrect belief and lying. > > Also I wrote: > [I'm Satan at the moment - Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=406060) > > This suggests I didn’t believe I was the one and only Satan. In a fit of generosity and good will, I gave this nitwit the benefit of the doubt in an earlier post. How I regret my decision now. :smack: Shut the fuck up JohnClay. Shut the fuck up forever and find another bridge to troll you fucking psycho. For the love of god just SHUT THE FUCK UP. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/173 "2014-07-28T12:12:47Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > See: > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17578641&postcount=24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17578641&postcount=24) > and > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17579858&postcount=53](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17579858&postcount=53) > > At least I don’t swear - unless I’m quoting someone else… … the fuck does swearing have to do with it? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/174 "2014-07-28T12:41:13Z")
In **JC** ’s defense, in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=729484) he made [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17582714&postcount=8), effectively winning the thread. That buys him a bit in my book (kindle edition). ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/175 "2014-07-28T12:42:35Z")
[Welp, looks like he has a kindred spirit now…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=729636) ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965/176 "2014-07-28T18:38:42Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > [Welp, looks like he has a kindred spirit now…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=729636) > [@Hemorrhoids are fucking little ass demons.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hemorrhoids-are-fucking-little-ass-demons/694226/1): > > It turns out I have a hemorrhoid on my butthole and the fiery little hell demon Bastard is killing me. What can I do to make this horrible little cocksucker fuck off and go back to hell where it came from > > > [@Hemorrhoids are fucking little ass demons.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hemorrhoids-are-fucking-little-ass-demons/694226/12): > > > > You can always just [push it back in](http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/understanding-hemorrhoids-basics): > > > > _They usually recede into the rectum on their own; if they don’t, they can be gently pushed back into place._ > > > > :eek: How convenient. **JohnClay** could even push it back in for him. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-johnclays-very-existence-and-everything-he-stands-for/693965.md?page=8)