# I object to the way this thread was closed, i.e. the contents of the final post **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [July 17, 2025, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994 "2025-07-17T21:45:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/21 "2025-07-18T02:15:50Z")
I think my point has been missed. I was never arguing about the particular poster in question. I object to the manner of that particular communication by a moderator. I thought it was trashy and undignified, and I still do. It doesn’t matter to that discussion that the poster is a sock or whatever else. All I’m seeing is excuses for poor judgment. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/22 "2025-07-18T02:21:25Z")
OK, I acknowledge poor communication. Did so earlier in fact. But trolling thread needed closing. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/23 "2025-07-18T03:19:41Z")
I thought that the thread had degenerated to the pit, should have been moved to the pit, and, in retrospect, should have been started in the pit. Characterizing the degenerate gambler as a troll, is just trolling, unless it’s something worse: Let’s all be more inclusive at the SDMB, by excluding people. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/24 "2025-07-18T04:23:20Z")
If sock, kill it with extreme prejudice. If not sock, it’s irritating but entertaining. And ultimately not mean spirited towards fellow posters unlike most of our trolls / socks. We shall see … ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/25 "2025-07-18T04:29:58Z")
Just to make sure the air is clear, @Roderick_Femm objected to @What_Exit’s poor communication, which W\_E has admitted to (twice). The poster in question has been banned with (multiple TBH) cause. I don’t believe that the OP had any other specific objections. For other concerns, I don’t blame many posters for having doubts or hesitation, especially those who haven’t gone back and looked through the volume of said poster’s work recently. And compared to some of our more obvious trolls/trocks, this one was quite understated - which let them coast for quiet a while. With all that said, I think the topic is pretty much resolved, no? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/26 "2025-07-18T08:23:50Z")
By the OP’s logic, when a mod issues any warning for trolling, they shouldn’t call it that in their warning post. Ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/27 "2025-07-18T08:26:16Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > We’ve had an eye on this one almost from the beginning. A year was too long, then. You guys give too much rope, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/28 "2025-07-18T12:09:52Z")
I will say, I was enjoying the debate over whether it was reasonable to take the matter into one’s own hands or not. And I was quite surprised at some of the positions taken. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/29 "2025-07-18T13:45:59Z")
So now he’s been “[Banned for trolling, misogyny and as a sock](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mw-degen-gamblr-banned-for-trolling-misogyny-and-as-a-sock/1021029)” And I’m confused. If he’s known to be a sock, why wasn’t he immediately banned for that? Why all the evidence making the case for him being a troll? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/30 "2025-07-18T13:48:16Z")
Because as investigating the trolling, determined to be sock also, which we already suspected. Also noticed the modnotes on misogyny and was brought up in the Modloop. As to the trolling, it is explained in the announcement. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/31 "2025-07-18T14:38:37Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > By the OP’s logic, when a mod issues any warning for trolling, they shouldn’t call it that in their warning post. Ridiculous. The quoted statement was not a warning, it was an announcement of the thread being closed, and of further discussion of the poster’s privileges being done by the mods. Your extrapolation of the import of my post is inaccurate. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/32 "2025-07-18T14:40:26Z")
I was preparing to ban the poster in question, a sock and a troll. I suspended them immediately, which is generally more than a warning. So how about some constructive criticism, how should I have phrased? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/33 "2025-07-18T14:43:04Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > The quoted statement was not a warning No, it was a thread closure and a suspension, which is _worse_ than a warning. Are you saying that it’s cool for mods to call people trolls in _lesser_ offenses like warnings (or even notes that someone is getting close to trolling) but not _more_ serious ones ? That’s a bit backwards. > [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Your extrapolation of the import of my post is inaccurate. No, it’s spot on, unless you really did mean the above.. ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/34 "2025-07-18T15:04:40Z")
I believe they could appeal to the moles in place at the troll farm out there in that Savannah to give up their socks. But that would dim the entertainment we provide them when the well runs dry. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/35 "2025-07-18T15:07:57Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > So how about some constructive criticism, how should I have phrased? I have no dog in this fight whatsoever, but based on this OP I imagine Roderick Femm would have preferred something more neutral like: “Thread locked and USERNAME suspended for 1 day pending modloop discussion of potential trolling.” ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/36 "2025-07-18T15:10:24Z")
I concur. Or the announcement of the thread being locked and the user being looked at for possible violation of board rules. Leave it ambiguous until official. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/37 "2025-07-18T15:10:54Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > something more neutral like: “Thread locked and USERNAME suspended for 1 day pending modloop discussion of potential trolling.” This seems to be the way it usually works. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/38 "2025-07-18T16:50:11Z")
I do appreciate it when the mods announce a suspension/banning and link to the [problematic posts.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mw-degen-gamblr-banned-for-trolling-misogyny-and-as-a-sock/1021029) It reinforces the assumption that this is a fairly-run board. And if nothing else, it’s a cautionary tale (“See this? This is what you should never think, let alone do.”)… ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/39 "2025-07-18T22:32:12Z")
Thanks to @ShadowFacts, @Saint_Cad, and @Thudlow_Boink for filling in for me better than I might have done for myself, while I was perforce away from the board for a few hours. Those posts express what I was trying to say. With that, I have said my say about this particular thread closing. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994/40 "2025-07-19T03:53:33Z")
Sock of Who??? We wanna know! > [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > even if it harelipped everybody on Bear Creek. Just about my favorite movie quote ever. I have an obsession with collecting signs that say “Bear Creek”. Hard to come by, but Oh, so worth it! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-object-to-the-way-this-thread-was-closed-i-e-the-contents-of-the-final-post/1020994.md?page=3)