# "i". Oy. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975 "2003-01-26T04:13:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/1 "2003-01-26T04:13:45Z")
WARNING: Grammar Rant Ahead. Fuck fuck fuck goatnoodle Pepsi! Look, you simpletons, when saying something like “i wuz l33t, d00d!”, capitalize the fucking “i”, OK? For the love of Cthulhu, it’s “I wuz l33t, d00d!” See how much better that looks? Remember, it’s “I”, not “i”, got that? I know that your factory-standard brain may had a faulty valve or something, but how fucking lazy is it not to hit the fucking ‘Shift’ key when typing out “I wuz l33t, d00d!” It raises your outward IQ by about 3 points, which puts you well into the mid-50s. Fuck! ---
**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/2 "2003-01-26T04:17:56Z")
Anyone who thinks that leetspeak is a worthy mode of communication surely cannot be persuaded of the benefits of using the Shift key. It’s a lost cause, Mr. Ellis. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/3 "2003-01-26T04:18:46Z")
I like lost causes. ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/4 "2003-01-26T04:35:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \* > \*\*I like lost causes. \*\* Isnt’ there a patron saint of lost causes, perhaps he/she can help. Or maybe I just saw that in a movie, or read it in a dimestore novel. ---
**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/5 "2003-01-26T04:42:58Z")
**RexDart** , to answer your question, I found this through Google: [Patron Saint Index](http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/pst00440.htm). Looks like there are four names that answer to the calling of Patron Saint of Lost Causes. Take your pick. ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/6 "2003-01-26T04:45:00Z")
Hey **Atreyu** thanks for the link, I think that’s gettin’ bookmarked for just such occasions as this 🙂 BTW, could you remind me where your username comes from, it’s bugging the hell out of me not remembering, but I’m sure it’s a reference to something I’m familiar with, it’s just frustrating. ---
**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/7 "2003-01-26T04:47:42Z")
**RexDart** , I took the username from the name of a character in a book that I’ve loved since childhood: The Neverending Story, by Michael Ende. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/8 "2003-01-26T05:40:25Z")
i’m sorry, i will strive to do better next time i post. 1337 (room across the hall from where i work. it is a storage closet) ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/9 "2003-01-26T06:10:05Z")
Grr… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/10 "2003-01-26T06:30:58Z")
What gets me is that those morons have stolen a perfectly good word: hacker. Back to the 1950s, a hacker was someone who could code with proficiency and imagination. A hacker played with computers at a high level, seeking knowledge above all and pursuing through a near-obsession with one or more technical fields (some of the best hackers at MIT in the early days were model train freaks, in fact). Being a hacker implies something near-mystical about your attachment to technology and technical knowledge. (Something now diagnosed, in fact (Asperger’s Syndrome), not that any hacker really cares what the medial world thinks is `wrong’ with him.) I am a hacker in the that sense of the word, the true sense of the word. Those idiots, beginning with the low-end micro copyright protection crackers in the 1970s, started to call themselves `hackers' when the most they cared about was warez and downloading crap from dialup networks. The hacker community, the real one, struck back, applying the old term cracker, as used by Shakespeare in the sense of `an annoying person or fool,’ to those morons. Of course, the media hopped on the Internet Bandwagon like a bunch of fucking hyenas jumping on a slow wildebeest. They ignored the voice of reason (something _not_ invented by FAUX News, BTW) and glorified a moron thief and vandal named Kevin Mitnick. Now the editors and reporters, in their infinite wisdom fed daily by Microsoft (aka Big Brother, Inc.), completely ignore the real hackers and apply that glorious word to the guttersnipes and mangy dogs of the computer world. It’s analogous to the problem witches face: They are _not_ Satanists (just like I’m not a vandal or a housebreaker), despite what the Jack Chick crowd (Microsoft and CNN) tries to say to maintain religious intolerance (keep up sales of a crappy OS or keep up viewership of a crappy `news’ program). ---
**Author:** ![PeppermintPatty85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PeppermintPatty85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeppermintPatty85)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/11 "2003-01-26T06:34:40Z")
huh? i don’t get it ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/12 "2003-01-26T07:19:49Z")
Thnx, **Atreyu** , I must have recognized it from the film version. I watched that movie so many times my mom got sick of it when I was young, and mothers have an inborn tolerance for repetitive filmviewing amongst youngsters. s Of course, that was strained when I was 8 or 9 and developed an affectation for the quintessential 80’s flick _Midnight Madness_…luckily my memory of childhood is poor, so I can only imagine my mom’s reaction to repeatedly hearing such banal lines as “look between the giant melons.” ---
**Author:** ![MachineHead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@MachineHead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MachineHead)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/13 "2003-01-26T07:33:52Z")
Everyone! Use ‘i’ 's for the rest of the thread, to annoy the OP! And then use :D&R because that justifies it! Oh Yeah! ---
**Author:** ![d\_redguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@d\_redguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d_redguy)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/14 "2003-01-26T07:36:45Z")
[hijack]Saint Jude is the patron saint of hopeless cases. **I** am Catholic School educated, and friars have asked for his intervention on my behalf! 😛 [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Nanoda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Nanoda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanoda)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/15 "2003-01-26T07:52:16Z")
what if i’m a p o e t? or i happen to be kd lang? On an unrelated note, Kevin Mitnick, and anyone who thinks “hacking” is using Linux and running l33t hax0ring scripts they don’t understand are, as **Derleth** says, idjits. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/16 "2003-01-26T08:33:28Z")
> [@](#): > > It raises your outward IQ by about 3 points… Don’t you mean “iQ”? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/17 "2003-01-26T08:46:08Z")
i like my body when it is with your body. It is so quite new a thing. Muscles better and nerves more. i like your body. i like what it does, i like its hows. i like to feel the spine of your body and its bones, and the trembling -firm-smooth ness and which i will again and again and again kiss, i like kissing this and that of you, i like, slowly stroking the, shocking fuzz of your electric furr, and what-is-it comes over parting flesh…And eyes big love-crumbs, and possibly i like the thrill of under me you so quite new - 3.3. CU////\1NG5, OR1G1N4| |33+ h@xx0r d00d. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/18 "2003-01-26T09:18:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Nanoda \* > \*\*what if i’m a > p > o > e > t? or i happen to be kd lang? It’s still no excuse. And E.E. is terribly over-rated. He wasn’t a poet, he was a typesetter. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/19 "2003-01-26T10:24:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RexDart \* > \*\*Hey **Atreyu** thanks for the link, I think that’s gettin’ bookmarked for just such occasions as this 🙂 > > BTW, could you remind me where your username comes from, it’s bugging the hell out of me not remembering, but I’m sure it’s a reference to something I’m familiar with, it’s just frustrating. \*\* That reminded me of an Ellen DeGeneres skit. Someone is talking to her, but she can’t remember the woman’s name. Her mind is distracted with trying to think of how she can pull out the name without appearing like she’s forgotten it altogether. Suddenly, her face glows with inspiration as she smiles broadly and says, “Now, how is it that you pronounce your name again?” “Kathy”. ---
**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2003, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975/20 "2003-01-28T12:57:52Z")
yOU KNOW, i CAN BE REALLY ANNOYING IF I TRY. sEE? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-oy/150975.md?page=2)