# i pit a certain fac\[e\]book womens group and thier "awareness campaign"..... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 9, 2010, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243 "2010-01-09T03:20:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/41 "2010-01-09T20:29:48Z")
“But it’s raising awareness of breast cancer!!” Yeah, right. It’s reaching all those people that haven’t seen and heard all the public awareness ads, heard about and/or participated in all the races, and/or seen all the pink ribbons. Of course, all those ask for time, money or effort, and facebooking is _sooo_ much easier. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/42 "2010-01-09T20:30:14Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And there are rules and a goal to this game? Besides letting people believe that they can do something about a very real problem without any cost in time, money or effort on their part, that is? Are you being intentionally obtuse or are you really not understanding? I admit I rolled my eyes a bit at the supposed breast cancer awareness stance of the forward, but frankly, I think the main point of it was just a silly game- not one with winners or losers (this isn’t the esteemed World of Warcraft or D&D), but just a silly pastime (which is another perfectly acceptable definition of “game”) > [@Xan](#): > > Stuff like this trivializes breast cancer. Breast cancer, hell cancer in general, IS a serious life or death matter. Yup, you can’t be silly about things. We must only bow our heads and show the greatest of reverence for serious matters. God knows, I’ve never heard a woman with breast cancer crack a joke about her situation. In fact, I just see them screaming and crying about all those silly, unserious walks for cancer awareness- because really, what the fuck is walking and wearing pink going to do? > [@torie](#): > > People are talking about it, aren’t they? Exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/43 "2010-01-09T20:32:47Z")
Some of us a pissed off because they are linking their silly little game to a very real problem in a dispicable effort to make their silly little game popular. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/44 "2010-01-09T20:34:00Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > In fact, I just see them screaming and crying about all those silly, unserious walks for cancer awareness- because really, what the fuck is walking and wearing pink going to do? Raise funds for this problem. ---
**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/45 "2010-01-09T20:36:05Z")
Lighten up, Francis! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/46 "2010-01-09T20:36:34Z")
> [@MoodIndigo1](#): > > So, what colour is your jockstrap, guys? I’d venture to guess that yellow and brown would be popular color choices to post among men. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/47 "2010-01-09T20:40:13Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Some of us a pissed off because they are linking their silly little game to a very real problem in a dispicable effort to make their silly little game popular. Oh dear. Well, on behalf of Facebook, I extend our sincerest apologies. Better? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/48 "2010-01-09T20:44:50Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Oh dear. Well, on behalf of Facebook, I extend our sincerest apologies. Better? The sincerity is just dripping here. I have a very real problem with jerks that try to tie their products to popular charitable causes without donating anything of worth to those causes. Nobody here is upset about the stupid game-they are angry that this stupid game is trying to increase hits through deceptive means. ---
**Author:** ![mischievous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mischievous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mischievous)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/49 "2010-01-09T20:49:18Z")
> [@enigmatic](#): > > Well.. I did some project work at one point at the CRC research labs in Birmingham and was left with the impression that I shouldn’t donate to cancer research. > > The people there were awesome and highly skilled and doing exceptional work. However looking at the literature around my project and in the areas that the group was looking at there seemed to be a lot of overlap in research and the funding was exceptionally good by the standards of everything I’ve seen since. > > I’m not going to say that they were over-funded, cause I’m pretty sure that there is no such thing in scientific research :D, I was just left with the impression that any money I could donate would go further and help more people in a different field or even just on research into more common or less funded cancer types. > > Obviously a couple of months is a pretty short time to form an impression like that, I’d be genuinely interested in hearing the views of anyone with more experience in the field Well, I work at the National Cancer Institute and I’m inclined to agree. If I were looking to spend my cancer-prevention dollars, I’d fund a campaign to get the whole damn nation, men included, vaccinated for HPV. ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/50 "2010-01-09T20:54:54Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Game does not necessarily mean an event with a winner- a game can also just be a fun pastime. > > Sometimes people act silly just for fun. Not everything is a serious, life or death or intellectual matter. That is clearly hard for some of you to believe, but I promise it’s really nothing serious. And no one was trying to hurt anyones widdle feelers by leaving them out- it was just a silly game. I agree. But I believe that cancer is in fact a serious, life or death matter. If you want to do something worthwhile, advocate for more funding for research, or organize hair drives for wigs, or knit comfy sweaters, or do one of those fundraising walks, or anything like that - great. The implication that changing your Facebook status has any significance whatsoever on a very real problem is almost offensively stupid, and leads to a very harmful attitude (“I’d love to do something to help, so I’ll change my Facebook status and we’re good.”) ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/51 "2010-01-09T20:56:11Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > The sincerity is just dripping here. > I have a very real problem with jerks that try to tie their products to popular charitable causes without donating anything of worth to those causes. Nobody here is upset about the stupid game-they are angry that this stupid game is trying to increase hits through deceptive means. The game is not a thing it’s a suggestion for an action that can’t get “hits.” There isn’t any product, link, or minigame to participate in. People just post one phrase on their facebook status. That’s all. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/52 "2010-01-09T21:09:06Z")
> [@NinjaChick](#): > > (“I’d love to do something to help, so I’ll change my Facebook status and we’re good.”) But why is it the default assumption that this is the case? Looking at my friends feed, I’d say a solid 75% of the girls that posted their bra color have donated either time or money to BCA- and these are just the ones that I’ve personally been witness to. Sure, my dumb as shit 13 year old cousin posted, “POLKA DOTS!!! ;););)” and I can say with a fairly high degree of certainty that she hasn’t given any money to a charity, but hey- she at least heard a little something about breast cancer and now it can be in the back of her mind. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/53 "2010-01-09T21:21:56Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Really? > So how do you win this “game”? By changing your status to “N/A since my mastectomy, you fucking ASSHOLES.” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/54 "2010-01-09T21:27:31Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Sure, my dumb as shit 13 year old cousin posted, “POLKA DOTS!!! ;););)” and I can say with a fairly high degree of certainty that she hasn’t given any money to a charity, but hey- she at least heard a little something about breast cancer and now it can be in the back of her mind. All the public service ads, races and pink ribbons slipped by her without notice, but suddenly this “game” has raised her awareness? This is truely an amazing world we live in. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/55 "2010-01-09T21:35:06Z")
You’re being silly, **Czarcasm**. I’m not prepared to say that this whole thing has done much to advance the state of women’s health, but which would you pay more attention to, something that said “Pay attention to this” or something that was a game that your friends were playing, and that you had to get initiated, sort of, to participate in? Which would more easily get past your who fucking cares filters? It’s viral marketing. There are valid criticisms to be made about some of the particulars here, as others have mentioned, but it’s stupid to say that a young girl wouldn’t be more likely to tune in to this thing than to a PSA or a ribbon. And you’re a liar if you’re saying that you genuinely believe that the color thing hasn’t made breast cancer an active thought in more people’s minds than a ribbon, no matter what you think the effect will be. ---
**Author:** ![torie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@torie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/torie)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/56 "2010-01-09T21:59:19Z")
Several of my friends used the game as a jumping off point to post links to several resources where you could sign up to donate money or time. I’m willing to bet they weren’t the only ones. ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/57 "2010-01-09T22:14:04Z")
> [@torie](#): > > Several of my friends used the game as a jumping off point to post links to several resources where you could sign up to donate money or time. I’m willing to bet they weren’t the only ones. One of my friends reported that his friends transformed it into posting one’s favorite sexual position. They seemed to have missed the point. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/58 "2010-01-09T22:16:47Z")
> [@KSO](#): > > One of my friends reported that his friends transformed it into posting one’s favorite sexual position. They seemed to have missed the point. I apologize for saying this game didn’t serve a worthy purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/59 "2010-01-09T22:17:04Z")
> [@NinjaChick](#): > > I agree. But I believe that cancer is in fact a serious, life or death matter. If you want to do something worthwhile, advocate for more funding for research, or organize hair drives for wigs, or knit comfy sweaters, or do one of those fundraising walks, or anything like that - great. The implication that changing your Facebook status has any significance whatsoever on a very real problem is almost offensively stupid, and leads to a very harmful attitude (“I’d love to do something to help, so I’ll change my Facebook status and we’re good.”) On the other hand, this is a really effective way to remind women to touch their tits. Some study recently showed BSEs aren’t necessarily any more effective than a woman who just regularly touches herself and gets familiar with her breasts. I didn’t donate any money as a result of this. I did remember to do a quick check. Maybe one person did a quick check and then made an appointment - and caught a lump at stage I or II rather than stage IV. ---
**Author:** ![torie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@torie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/torie)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243/60 "2010-01-09T22:24:12Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I apologize for saying this game didn’t serve a worthy purpose. You’re conveniently ignoring a instance of when it did. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-a-certain-fac-e-book-womens-group-and-thier-awareness-campaign/524243.md?page=4)