# I pit all the morons who continue to engage with Clothahump, and the mods who refuse to ban him **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 30, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452 "2017-07-30T17:50:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/41 "2017-07-30T20:32:11Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > **Clothahump** is a steaming pile of shit, and dumb as a barge pole to boot. > > But that thread is in the Pit, and the standard for “polluting” such a thread should be pretty high (or, i guess, pretty low). **Clothahump** was just being **Clothahump** , i.e., stupid and offensive. If you don’t like it, just ignore him, or return some appropriate insults. And yet another sterling example of what I mentioned earlier. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/42 "2017-07-30T20:32:50Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I set up someone to make a complete ass of himself. He bit on the bait and I hooked him. When I pointed out to him (and others) that he had taken the bait, I got suspended for a month. It was totally unjustified, but there it is. You admitted to lying about your usage of ethnic slurs just to piss me off. I was delighted by the reveal that you were just trying to troll me, but that’s pretty much the definition of trolling. Then, when I asked again about your usage of ethnic slurs you blocked me. You said you only block people who are jerks to you, but I’ve never insulted you – I’ve tried to engage you on an intellectual level (and you’ve ignored such posts), and I’ve challenged you and disagreed with you on things like your usage of ethnic slurs, but I’m pretty sure I’ve never personally insulted you. I’m still open to actual exchange of ideas, with you or anyone. Hopefully you’ll be more open to such as well, in the future. There really are reasonable and intelligent liberals in the world (and on this board), just as there are reasonable and intelligent conservatives. It really is possible for decent people to be honest and smart and come to different conclusions on issues based on their own experiences. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/43 "2017-07-30T20:34:51Z")
Trolling does not requires any reading of content. Just of intent. Content is just used to try and determine intent. If it can be determined in other ways, then it should be. It’s stupid to plug your fingers in your ears and pretend you can’t tell because they didn’t give you enough information here. The point is to stop trolls. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/44 "2017-07-30T20:38:22Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Wow. Another self-proclaimed expert on me who has learned a buzzword and wants to show it off to everyone. > > It would be nice if the majority of posters on this board were capable of arguing a point rationally. Instead, they haul out the good old ad hominem, or whatever the current buzzword is that is supposed to trump everything, and then they get offended when it doesn’t work. > > Now…a challenge for you. This was a non-angry, useful information post. Do you agree? If not, I’d love to hear your reasoning why. If that is what you classify as non-angry and useful, I suppose I am starting to see the disconnect. You start with a sarcastic insult toward the poster. Then you go to a general insult towards the board. You then generalize incorrectly about the nature of debating styles, throw in another insult, and then imagine a negative reaction that doesn’t happen. There was nothing useful or informative in your post, but it was quite chock full of insults. Do you agree? If not, I’d love to hear your reasoning why. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/45 "2017-07-30T20:39:07Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > You admitted to lying about your usage of ethnic slurs just to piss me off. I was delighted by the reveal that you were just trying to troll me, but that’s pretty much the definition of trolling. > > Then, when I asked again about your usage of ethnic slurs you blocked me. You said you only block people who are jerks to you, but I’ve never insulted you – I’ve tried to engage you on an intellectual level (and you’ve ignored such posts), and I’ve challenged you and disagreed with you on things like your usage of ethnic slurs, but I’m pretty sure I’ve never personally insulted you. I don’t use ethnic slurs on a regular basis. You claim that I do. This post is a perfect example. I have used the term “wetback” a couple of times and you nearly shit on yourself about it, and since then, you’ve done nothing but jump up and down yelling “ethnic slur, ethnic slur” constantly. I put you on ignore because you were annoying. But, what the hey. I’ve taken everyone off ignore, so if you want to go back to your jumping and yelling, have at it. Or not. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/46 "2017-07-30T20:41:08Z")
NM. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/47 "2017-07-30T20:41:49Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > mb This is the best post from you I have ever seen. Use it as your model for future contributions. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/48 "2017-07-30T20:44:00Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I don’t use ethnic slurs on a regular basis. You claim that I do. This post is a perfect example. I have used the term “wetback” a couple of times and you nearly shit on yourself about it, and since then, you’ve done nothing but jump up and down yelling “ethnic slur, ethnic slur” constantly. I put you on ignore because you were annoying. > > But, what the hey. I’ve taken everyone off ignore, so if you want to go back to your jumping and yelling, have at it. Or not. I never said you used them on a regular basis (at least, I’m pretty sure I haven’t). I challenged you on a single, or a few, usages. I don’t plan to jump and yell – you’re probably a decent person and I doubt you personally have any hatred in your heart for people of other ethnicities. Nonethless, I think ethnic slurs can be hurtful to people (especially children – I remember each and every time someone called me “kike” as a child, or used some other disparagement of Jews in my presence, usually without realizing my Jewish ancestry), and harmful to our society overall, even if it’s just a tiny tiny bit each time. So I would suggest respectfully that you should stop using ethnic slurs, since there are plenty of insults you can use (asshole, shitheel, etc.) that have no reference to ethnicities, discrimination, or bigotry, and usage of ethnic slurs hurts people and society (again, in a small but real way). I’m still hopeful that you might be interested in actually engaging with people you disagree with, and I’m hopeful that you’ll stop assuming all liberals are stupid, or liars, or similar. There are plenty of patriotic liberals (like me!) who served honorably in our military, for example. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/49 "2017-07-30T20:45:18Z")
Irritating people and trolling are different things. I can irritate you very easily with my tone of voice or by insulting you. But trolling is different. Trolling involves lying and trickery. **Clothahump** has admitted to such. That he admitted it on another board is irrelevant. If umkay had revealed she wasn’t disabled in another forum, do you think that the mods would have thought “Well, it’s on another forum, so our hands are tied?” That’s fucking stupid. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/50 "2017-07-30T20:46:16Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Somebody buy **BPC** a membership so he can put **Clothy** on ignore. **BPC** doesn’t mean he can’t put **Clothy** on his ignore list, he means it’s futile because he can still see it when someone quotes him. Buying a membership isn’t going to fix that. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/51 "2017-07-30T21:00:07Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Wow. Another self-proclaimed expert on me who has learned a buzzword and wants to show it off to everyone. > > It would be nice if the majority of posters on this board were capable of arguing a point rationally. Instead, they haul out the good old ad hominem, or whatever the current buzzword is that is supposed to trump everything, and then they get offended when it doesn’t work. > > Now…a challenge for you. This was a non-angry, useful information post. Do you agree? If not, I’d love to hear your reasoning why. No, because you got all dismissive and accusative and weren’t really informative on anything but claiming you aren’t what you have too often been. And yeah, I took you off Ignore too, just to see if you were going to be anything different. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/52 "2017-07-30T21:02:36Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Irritating people and trolling are different things. A distinction for which you should be profoundly grateful. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/53 "2017-07-30T21:25:11Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I think it’s pretty sad to ask the mods to ban someone. Weak shit. I think I love you. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/54 "2017-07-30T21:34:08Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Clothahump is a very angry, very stupid man who is convinced that he’s a lot smarter than he is. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him post a non-angry useful information post. It is all partisan nonsense and straight out ignorance with a strong Dunning-Kruger anger running through every word. > > It would be different if he posted useful information once in a while or was capable of arguing a point rationally without calling everyone idiots. > [@Clothahump](#): > > Wow. Another self-proclaimed expert on me who has learned a buzzword and wants to show it off to everyone. > > It would be nice if the majority of posters on this board were capable of arguing a point rationally. Instead, they haul out the good old ad hominem, or whatever the current buzzword is that is supposed to trump everything, and then they get offended when it doesn’t work. > > Now…a challenge for you. This was a non-angry, useful information post. Do you agree? If not, I’d love to hear your reasoning why. Better challenge: Try to figure out which of **Chimera** ’s words was so esoteric\* that **Clothahump** decided it was a buzzword. [ol] [li]Angry[/li][li]Stupid[/li][li]convinced[/li][li]smarter[/li][li]useful[/li][li]information[/li][li]partisan[/li][li]Dunning-Kruger[/li][li]capable[/li][/ol] \*“esoteric” means “of special, rare, or unusual interest” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/55 "2017-07-30T21:38:51Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Somebody buy **BPC** a membership so he can put **Clothy** on ignore. > [@cochrane](#): > > **BPC** doesn’t mean he can’t put **Clothy** on his ignore list, he means it’s futile because he can still see it when someone quotes him. Buying a membership isn’t going to fix that. [You may have a point…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20380264&postcount=27) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/56 "2017-07-30T21:41:08Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Irritating people and trolling are different things. > [@mhendo](#): > > A distinction for which you should be profoundly grateful. Ooh. That’s gonna leave a mark… ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/57 "2017-07-30T22:05:25Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > BPC, you are so wrong about me that you’re not even in the same zip code with being correct. Yet you never say _why_ it’s wrong. The phrase “methinks he doth protest too much” comes to mind. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/58 "2017-07-30T22:19:09Z")
Well, this is going smashingly. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/59 "2017-07-30T22:56:11Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > I think I love you. 😛 If you think you love, you probably don’t. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/60 "2017-07-30T23:02:59Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > The [militia](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=831068) is out in full force today. Awww…is the flounce over so quickly? And what are you trying to say about the militia being out in force _today_, when that thread hasn’t had any activity for a few days now? Feeling left out, what with the Clothahump pitting? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452.md?page=4)