# I pit all the morons who continue to engage with Clothahump, and the mods who refuse to ban him **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 30, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452 "2017-07-30T17:50:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/61 "2017-07-30T23:22:34Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > And yet another sterling example of what I mentioned earlier. One more time, assuming you have yet to read post #47 in the ATMB thread about you: if you don’t like the way you are treated in the Pit, simply _don’t [post in the Pit_. It’s a sideshow. If you have a rational, non-angry, non-insulting political point to make, you should be able to make it in GD or Elections without trouble, and no one can insult you there without them getting in dutch with the mods. So, why is it you refuse to take this simple step, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/62 "2017-07-31T01:06:27Z")
As someone who called out Cloth and even went so far as to label him a troll, I’ll say this also: I’m not a fan of cyber mobs. The solution is simple: let the mods deal with him or anyone who’s trolling through progressive discipline. Troll once, you get a warning. Troll twice, you get a little time out. Troll thrice…you get a longer time out. Troll four times, maybe a temporary ban and then writing a letter to the mods explaining how you’re a changed userhandle is in order. Violate that, and then IP ban. I’m not so much ‘defending’ the poster in question as much as I am principle, which should be applied evenly regardless of political leanings. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/63 "2017-07-31T01:33:04Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Clothahump is a very angry, very stupid man who is convinced that he’s a lot smarter than he is. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him post a non-angry useful information post. It is all partisan nonsense and straight out ignorance with a strong Dunning-Kruger anger running through every word. > > It would be different if he posted useful information once in a while or was capable of arguing a point rationally without calling everyone idiots. I would be just fine, with the Clot getting the fuck out, personally. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/64 "2017-07-31T01:41:04Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > If you think you love, you probably don’t. …and another **elucidator** one-liner disolves in a puddle of flop-sweat… ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/65 "2017-07-31T01:43:48Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > As someone who called out Cloth and even went so far as to label him a troll, I’ll say this also: I’m not a fan of cyber mobs. One person’s cyber mob is another person’s group of people who just happen to have a similar opinion about someone. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/66 "2017-07-31T02:24:47Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Clothahump is a very angry, very stupid man He really isn’t though. I’ve met him in real life on several occasions and I’ve always enjoyed his company. In real life, he’s a great guy to hang out with. We disagree on a lot of issues but it’s never been a problem. That said, the Clothahump I see on this board is different from the person I’ve met in real life. I don’t know he’s chosen to present himself here in the way he has. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/67 "2017-07-31T02:26:47Z")
And I’ve met Shodan at a dopefest and had a pleasant time. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/68 "2017-07-31T02:28:23Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > He really isn’t though. I’ve met him in real life on several occasions and I’ve always enjoyed his company. In real life, he’s a great guy to hang out with. We disagree on a lot of issues but it’s never been a problem. > > That said, the Clothahump I see on this board is different from the person I’ve met in real life. I don’t know he’s chosen to present himself here in the way he has. And thanks for sharing that and for humanizing Clothahump. I think we forget that we’re human – we all are ya know. And I guess that’s why I posted that I don’t like this cyber-mob shit. Maybe Clotha hump got rubbed the wrong way and his postings are just his way of stirring the pot because he’s rebelling against the SDMB culture. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/69 "2017-07-31T02:30:14Z")
**Clothahump** enjoys the stories of M.R. James, so I can’t excoriate him completely. I’d be happy to sit with him before a roaring fire on Christmas Eve and read him spooky ghost stories while we both sipped a fine Armagnac and slowly smoked our Havanas. As long as politics didn’t come up and he kept his pants on. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/70 "2017-07-31T02:34:59Z")
We could sip good Kentucky Bourbon and smoke Camel straights if he’s “American made only.” I never noticed that affinity in his posts, though. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/71 "2017-07-31T02:39:35Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Wow - I take everyone off my ignore list and this is the first post I see. WHEE!! To **Clothahump** , if I may (and with apologies to **BPC** ): What prompted you to take us all off your ignore list? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/72 "2017-07-31T02:44:14Z")
> [@Not\_Carlson](#): > > To **Clothahump** , if I may (and with apologies to **BPC** ): > > What prompted you to take us all off your ignore list? Because of all the pushback he was getting for putting everyone on it. > [@Clothahump and his Ignore List](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clothahump-and-his-ignore-list/792363/80): > > Of course. > > And I must admit, I am astonished at how many people I upset because I _dared_ to use the ignore list. So, I’ll tell you what - I’ll go clear everyone off. > > I apologize for any inconvenience that I caused anyone. Now you all can go back to insulting me directly instead of having to beg others to quote your snark so that I will see it. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20380306&postcount=80](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20380306&postcount=80) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/73 "2017-07-31T02:46:47Z")
ETA: Ninja’d by **Cochrane**. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/74 "2017-07-31T02:52:00Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > **BPC** doesn’t mean he can’t put **Clothy** on his ignore list, he means it’s futile because he can still see it when someone quotes him. Buying a membership isn’t going to fix that. Pretty much the same reason I cleared my list. It really didn’t work the way it was supposed to. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/75 "2017-07-31T02:52:19Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That said, the Clothahump I see on this board is different from the person I’ve met in real life. I don’t know he’s chosen to present himself here in the way he has. Presumably because acting the same way in real life could get his ass kicked. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/76 "2017-07-31T02:52:33Z")
OP, I don’t think your call to ignore \*\*Clothahump \*\*is working. This is the Internet. We WANT the drama. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/77 "2017-07-31T02:56:38Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > If that is what you classify as non-angry and useful, I suppose I am starting to see the disconnect. > > You start with a sarcastic insult toward the poster. Then you go to a general insult towards the board. You then generalize incorrectly about the nature of debating styles, throw in another insult, and then imagine a negative reaction that doesn’t happen. > > There was nothing useful or informative in your post, but it was quite chock full of insults. Do you agree? If not, I’d love to hear your reasoning why. Here’s your fundamental disconnect: there were no insults in my post. There were statements of facts. Let’s review. Chimera said: [QUOTE=Chimera] Clothahump is a very angry, very stupid man who is convinced that he’s a lot smarter than he is. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him post a non-angry useful information post. It is all partisan nonsense and straight out ignorance with a strong Dunning-Kruger anger running through every word. It would be different if he posted useful information once in a while or was capable of arguing a point rationally without calling everyone idiots. [/QUOTE] My response was: [QUOTE=Me] Wow. Another self-proclaimed expert on me who has learned a buzzword and wants to show it off to everyone. [/QUOTE] Now, I could have come out and called him a fucking liar, because his statement was totally wrong. I could have made the assumption that he knew it was wrong, but said it anyway. I chose, however, to simply use sarcasm to point out that he was wrong. No insults, just statement of fact. But because I stated that fact, you’re claiming I was insulting. And this is what I have to put up with on a daily basis/ ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/78 "2017-07-31T03:03:24Z")
And I forgot to ask: you claim I am insulting. BPC called you a moron in the OP. Why aren’t you raising hell with him about insulting you? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/79 "2017-07-31T03:11:08Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > But because I stated that fact, you’re claiming I was insulting. And this is what I have to put up with on a daily basis/ And you had said “Another self-proclaimed expert on me who has learned a buzzword and wants to show it off to everyone.” Would you be thinking this was an insult if aimed at you? I’m thinking you would. Maybe you should dial back the snide statements that make you come across as a jerk. And seriously, you’re not alone in putting up with insults and the like on a daily basis. Its part of life, especially when the subjects of Religion and Politics are involved. The rest of us just don’t go around crying to everyone about how put upon we are. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452/80 "2017-07-31T03:12:47Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > And what are you trying to say about the militia being out in force _today_, when that thread hasn’t had any activity for a few days now? Feeling left out, what with the Clothahump pitting? Perhaps the relevance of this request - to ban a poster who hasn’t broken the rules but who posts ideas outside of the general purview of the board - is lost on you. I think if you yell “Troll” a few hundred more times your wish might come true. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-morons-who-continue-to-engage-with-clothahump-and-the-mods-who-refuse-to-ban-him/792452.md?page=5)