# I pit all the phucking phonies who post shit and then "apologize" for it **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 2, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095 "2014-12-02T02:21:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/1 "2014-12-02T02:21:45Z")
Elizabeth Lauten is the latest one. It just burns my bacon that these people think nothing of posting any abusive thought that pops into their little pea brains, and then think that “apologizing” makes everything OK. Risking putting myself in the same boat, maybe it’s a Religious thing? Sin, and then ask for forgiveness, and it’s like it never happened? Well, I wish that they would either have the eggs to leave their crap on-line without apology, or not post it in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/2 "2014-12-02T02:26:35Z")
She probably thinks a little more of it, now that its cost her job. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/3 "2014-12-02T04:10:25Z")
I pit the word “phucking.” ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/4 "2014-12-02T04:12:42Z")
She’s still getting grief over her “apology” as noted on Rachel Maddow and at [Forbes](http://www.forbes.com/sites/elisadoucette/2014/11/30/the-art-of-apologies-and-why-elizabeth-lauten-failed-miserably-at-hers/2/). She apologized for saying the stupid stuff, but didn’t actually apologize to the two people whom she actually insulted. Essentially it was a non-apology, just apologizing because she got caught. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/5 "2014-12-02T04:26:58Z")
Al Gore should ban her from the internet. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/6 "2014-12-02T04:42:07Z")
> [@JohnGalt](#): > > She’s still getting grief over her “apology” as noted on Rachel Maddow and at [Forbes](http://www.forbes.com/sites/elisadoucette/2014/11/30/the-art-of-apologies-and-why-elizabeth-lauten-failed-miserably-at-hers/2/). She apologized for saying the stupid stuff, but didn’t actually apologize to the two people whom she actually insulted. Essentially it was a non-apology, just apologizing because she got caught. Indeed. One might almost think that it was all planned\* - post outrageous, offensive garbage, and then "apologize’ for it once it starts to get smeared around the internet. Phony. \*perhaps not the whole “losing my job” thing, but, who knows. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/7 "2014-12-02T04:44:42Z")
Apparently, the only qualification needed to be a communication expert for the Republicans is an AOL account. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/8 "2014-12-02T04:49:30Z")
In the SRIofTD thread, **mhendo** found something. > [@Stupid Republican idea of the day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/18020): > > And just to top off the whole thing, this woman who lost her job for criticizing the behavior of a pair of teenaged girls turns out to have been [arrested for shoplifting when she was 17](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/Elizabeth-Lauten-arrest-786543). I guess she knows all about badly behaving teens. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/9 "2014-12-02T20:25:23Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > Apparently, the only qualification needed to be a communication expert for the Republicans is an AOL account. You’re a partisan fucktard. :rolleyes: > [@running\_coach](#): > > In the SRIofTD thread, **mhendo** found something. > > I guess she knows all about badly behaving teens. Yes, because one person behaving badly completely excuses everyone elses bad behavior. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/10 "2014-12-02T20:31:42Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > You’re a partisan fucktard. :rolleyes: So, against all odds, both sides are equal? How fortunate for people that support the GOP. > [@](#): > > Yes, because one person behaving badly completely excuses everyone elses bad behavior. :rolleyes: I don’t think this communicates your idea effectively. She was the one with bad behavior. How would \*her \*previous bad behavior be an excuse for her current bad behavior? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/11 "2014-12-02T20:35:36Z")
There was a time when you had to put in _effort_ to engage in vapid libel, by printing out pamphlets and such. It’s too easy nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/12 "2014-12-02T20:47:04Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t think this communicates your idea effectively. > > She was the one with bad behavior. How would her previous bad behavior be an excuse for her current bad behavior? nicely put - so polite! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/13 "2014-12-02T20:54:00Z")
The strange thing is not the rude comment to the Obama daughters, but the shit she said about the President and First Lady: > [@](#): > > Then again your mother and father don’t respect their positions very much, or the nation for that matter, so I’m guessing you’re coming up a little short in the ‘good role model’ department. Where the Hell does that kind of thought come from? I can see a Republican not agreeing with Obama’s policy or agenda, that’s expected. But you have to be Cruz-crazy to say they don’t respect the country. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/14 "2014-12-02T20:56:27Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > She was the one with bad behavior. How would \*her \*previous bad behavior be an excuse for her current bad behavior? I believe he’s attempting to humorously apply the attitude espoused by Bricker et. al in iiandyiii’s pit thread. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/15 "2014-12-02T21:43:35Z")
So she lost her job for telling the Presidential daughters to dress better and show more respect during a turkey pardon. Which makes no sense - the turkey pardon is too stupid an occasion to show respect, and the only appropriate costume would be a clown suit. Do people really worry about stuff like this? It may have been inappropriate, but it is a fairly mild criticism of a markedly silly occasion. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/16 "2014-12-02T22:06:11Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Do people really worry about stuff like this? It may have been inappropriate, but it is a fairly mild criticism of a markedly silly occasion. Heck, ask Fox News how much mileage they get out of mock outrage over stupidities, be it flag pins, umbrellas held by Marines or Obama saluting while holding a coffee cup… whether or not people actually worry about petty shit, there’s a whole pseudo-industry built on _assuming_ they worry about petty shit. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/17 "2014-12-02T22:54:56Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Do people really worry about stuff like this? It may have been inappropriate, but it is a fairly mild criticism of a markedly silly occasion. It was pretty harsh criticism of a couple of teenage girls who didn’t do anything wrong. If you’re talking about Lauten paying attention to the turkey ceremony, then I agree - it’s not news. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/18 "2014-12-03T01:13:51Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Do people really worry about stuff like this? It may have been inappropriate, but it is a fairly mild criticism of a markedly silly occasion. She used the man’s teenage daughters as a political tool. What’s more, she did so in such a way that was grossly insulting to them, and acted as though their father was some deadbeat dad who had no respect for anything, rather than, yanno, _POTUS_. Sometimes, things are a bit off-limits. This should, within all reason, be one of those moments. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/19 "2014-12-03T03:02:50Z")
Just imagine if the nation’s teenagers became rebellious tramps like Obama’s kids. And this is the thanks Miss Lauten gets. A patriot’s job is never done. I’m still not really sure what she’s talking about. I guess the one on the left is showing too much leg? Maybe I’m just another victim of America’s cultural decline. They seem uncomfortable in the same way you would be if your dad was acting like an awkward nerd telling horrible jokes on national TV and you were forced to stand by him. It’s funny when PR managers and communication directors say stupid shit, you’d think they’d be good at not doing that. The RO over this non-sense is funny in general. There just always has to be something, doesn’t there? ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/20 "2014-12-03T03:13:14Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Heck, ask Fox News how much mileage they get out of mock outrage over stupidities, be it flag pins, umbrellas held by Marines or Obama saluting while holding a coffee cup… whether or not people actually worry about petty shit, there’s a whole pseudo-industry built on _assuming_ they worry about petty shit. Alternatively, ask ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN how much time they devote to stupid things some random congressional staffer versus, say a key Obamacare architecht repeatedly admitting they lied on camera to sell the thing, and undercutting the administration’s legal arguments in a case currently before the supreme court. That story was out there for a week before they deigned to even mention it on-air. GOP unknown snarks on Malia … THAT’s a story worth leading with for three days? :dubious: [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095.md?page=2)