# I pit all the phucking phonies who post shit and then "apologize" for it **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 2, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095 "2014-12-02T02:21:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/21 "2014-12-03T03:34:23Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > So she lost her job for telling the Presidential daughters to dress better and show more respect during a turkey pardon. Which makes no sense - the turkey pardon is too stupid an occasion to show respect, and the only appropriate costume would be a clown suit. > > Do people really worry about stuff like this? It may have been inappropriate, but it is a fairly mild criticism of a markedly silly occasion. > > Regards, > Shodan You’re right. It’s not at all like when GWB’s two daughters got caught underage drinking and flashing their lady parts. Why, I remember as clear as bell Democratic staffers calling Bush unpatriotic because his daughters were acting like…_gasp_…teenagers! Thank Og for the 22nd Amendment or I would have had to move to Canada for the shame of it all! ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/22 "2014-12-03T17:03:57Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > …I would have had to move to Canada for the shame of it all! Fine, but you’d have to spell your name with a Zed, none of this liberal Zee business. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/23 "2014-12-03T17:10:50Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > You’re a partisan fucktard. :rolleyes: Said another partisan fucktard. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/24 "2014-12-03T17:15:42Z")
Politics has precious few rules of engagement at this point, and it’s a terrible thing. One of the few remaining rules is that you don’t attack the minor children of your political opponents: you leave them out of the game. It’s a good rule. Some jerks broke it with the Bush girls, and those jerks were the worst. Now Lauten has broken it. The price she’s paying is appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/25 "2014-12-03T17:21:28Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > You’re a partisan fucktard. :rolleyes: > > Yes, because one person behaving badly completely excuses everyone elses bad behavior. :rolleyes: > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I believe he’s attempting to humorously apply the attitude espoused by Bricker et. al in iiandyiii’s pit thread. Well, I pit coming into THIS thread and being a fucktard yourself just to prove a point/score a point/ whatever the fuck in another thread that readers here may or may not have read. Who’s the fucktard now? ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/26 "2014-12-03T17:30:41Z")
_dupe post_ ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/27 "2014-12-03T17:32:55Z")
> [@susan](#): > > I pit the word “phucking.” It looks like a word for Vietnamese sex. Which I could get into, if it doesn’t involve lots of cilantro. > [@Procrustus](#): > > The strange thing is not the rude comment to the Obama daughters, but the shit she said about the President and First Lady: > > > [@](#): > > > > Then again your mother and father don’t respect their positions very much, or the nation for that matter, so I’m guessing you’re coming up a little short in the ‘good role model’ department. > > Where the Hell does that kind of thought come from? I can see a Republican not agreeing with Obama’s policy or agenda, that’s expected. But you have to be Cruz-crazy to say they don’t respect the country. Oh, you’re allowed to do that. I said the same shit about Bush 43. The difference is I was right, but still, she’s allowed to say Obama doesn’t respect the nation. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/28 "2014-12-03T17:35:25Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It was pretty harsh criticism of a couple of teenage girls who didn’t do anything wrong. Telling them they should dress better and not make faces during the turkey ceremony strikes you as “pretty harsh”? Well, OK, but I don’t see it. Because the notion that they should be acting respectful during a ceremony where the President pardons a fucking turkey is more than a little dumb. Or get all dressed up for the occasion. I sympathesize with the daughters - I am sure half the times they have to attend ceremonies would bore any normal person to tears, let alone a teenager. And the turkey pardon tradition goes beyond meaningless into stupid. It’s a turkey - you are supposed to eat it, not let it live out its golden years with Old MacDonald. But firing someone for Facebook comments where she tells teenagers not to act like teenagers seems a little extreme. YMMV. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/29 "2014-12-03T17:43:35Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Telling them they should dress better and not make faces during the turkey ceremony strikes you as “pretty harsh”? Well, OK, but I don’t see it. > > Regards, > Shodan It was the part about “looking for a spot at the bar” that put it over the top. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/30 "2014-12-03T18:33:20Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Telling them they should dress better and not make faces during the turkey ceremony strikes you as “pretty harsh”? Well, OK, but I don’t see it. That would be a rather generous precis of [her remarks](http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/29/politics/fincher-staffer-obama-daughters/). [QUOTE=Elizabeth Lauten] “Dear Sasha and Malia: I get you’re both in those awful teen years, but you’re a part of the First Family, try showing a little class. At least respect the part you play,” Lauten wrote in the post. … Lauten, however, had some advice for the First Daughters, imploring them in the Facebook post to “stretch yourself…rise to the occasion” and “act like being in the White House matters to you.” “Dress like you deserve respect, not a spot at a bar. And certainly don’t make faces during televised, public events,” she concluded. [/QUOTE] Accusing a 13 year old of showing a lack of class and dressing “for a bar” is pretty harsh, yes. Especially considering there was [nothing wrong with what they were wearing](http://stmedia.startribune.com/images/10016141+OBAMA+TURKEY+PARDON+4.JPG). > [@](#): > > …firing someone for Facebook comments where she tells teenagers not to act like teenagers seems a little extreme. YMMV. Again, that is hardly all she did. Anyway, she’s a congressional (or was a) communications director. Not saying stupid shit on Facebook is one of the qualifications for the job. If she was a welder for General Motors, I would agree. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/31 "2014-12-03T19:16:52Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Telling them they should dress better and not make faces during the turkey ceremony strikes you as “pretty harsh”? Well, OK, but I don’t see it. It’s clearly more than that, 'dan. The whole point of addressing the girls was to set up the ‘Barack & Michelle are crummy role models’ line. As **BudgePlayerCadet** pointed out, she was just using the kids as a flog to beat their parents with. That’s psycho cold. If one of the girls was a fatty, would it have been ok to deliver, “Lose some weight for God’s sake! But judging from the looks of your well-fed mamma’s booty you probably don’t even know what fresh vegetables are.” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/32 "2014-12-03T19:56:15Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Alternatively, ask ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN how much time they devote to stupid things some random congressional staffer versus, say a key Obamacare architecht repeatedly admitting they lied on camera to sell the thing, and undercutting the administration’s legal arguments in a case currently before the supreme court. That story was out there for a week before they deigned to even mention it on-air. > > GOP unknown snarks on Malia … THAT’s a story worth leading with for three days? :dubious: Yeah, yeah… everybody’s equally guilty, lamestream media, etc. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/33 "2014-12-03T20:11:21Z")
> [@furt](#): > > GOP unknown snarks on Malia … THAT’s a story worth leading with for three days? :dubious: IOW, DNFTT Which would probably make us all a little better off. Moron of insignificance rants imperiously about nothing, wfc? Let them shout into the void, let the void swallow their cries with indifference. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/34 "2014-12-03T22:35:31Z")
I don’t see why everybody is getting their underwear in a bunch. She didn’t like the kids manners, she groused about it…hardly a war crime. I say that everybody who had a problem about her is a piece of shit. A woman pisses and moans, and she loses her job?? Fuck everybody who complains about her. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/35 "2014-12-03T23:10:44Z")
She lost her job _in politics_ because she demonstrated one of the worst political senses seen around Washington in years. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/36 "2014-12-03T23:26:09Z")
> [@The Great Sun Jester](#): > > It’s clearly more than that, 'dan. The whole point of addressing the girls was to set up the ‘Barack & Michelle are crummy role models’ line. As **BudgePlayerCadet** pointed out, she was just using the kids as a flog to beat their parents with. Exactly. There is an agreement in the Washington political world that you do NOT do that with the minor children of officials, if you are one or work for one. You leave that to Talk Radio blowhards and partisan hacks _outside_. Improper to do it using Sasha/Malia, using Trig or Bristol, using Babs/Jenna, using Chelsea or Amy. The Bush twins were considered by some people a fair target because technically they were not minors, although \*below \*the drinking age, when they partied a little too hearty. But it still was entirely unfair. Teenagers are teenagers and pretending that if you’re President you must be able to de-teenagize them is silly. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/37 "2014-12-03T23:26:39Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > She lost her job _in politics_ because she demonstrated one of the worst political senses seen around Washington in years. I dunno about that - what she did is about as petty and stupid as numerous other comments about Obama and his family. She went, at most, a teeny tiny bit further. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/38 "2014-12-04T01:56:59Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > I don’t see why everybody is getting their underwear in a bunch. She didn’t like the kids manners, she groused about it…hardly a war crime. > > I say that everybody who had a problem about her is a piece of shit. A woman pisses and moans, and she loses her job?? Fuck everybody who complains about her. you are wrong and unpleasant ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/39 "2014-12-04T02:04:02Z")
[del]grendell was right![/del] [del]Down with the geatts![/del] Sorry, don’t know what came over me. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095/40 "2014-12-04T02:13:53Z")
I’d heard there was some snit going on, but had no idea what this tempest in a teakettle was about. Pleated miniskirts? That’s the issue?\* Oy vey.\* Yeah, I can see why she thought she could get away with that bit, but fashion/body policing of young women is a trigger for some people. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-all-the-phucking-phonies-who-post-shit-and-then-apologize-for-it/706095.md?page=3)