# I Pit Amazing Grace Baptist Church **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 23, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908 "2009-10-23T22:34:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/21 "2009-10-24T04:04:49Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Well good for you. You still aren’t any better than the group you linked to in the OP. > > Oh and btw, what human wrote that passage in Corinthians? I am completely free to think what is sin and what is not. Also while it was a human (Paul) who wrote the Corinthians he certainly was inspired by God and not superseded unlike Mosaic Law. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/22 "2009-10-24T04:07:58Z")
> [@Curtis LeMay](#): > > I am completely free to think what is sin and what is not. Did I say otherwise? People are free to believe whatever crazy shit they want, it makes no never mind to me. I just thought it was funny that you were acting as if you were oh so higher and mightier than the OP group. You’re not. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/23 "2009-10-24T04:08:22Z")
Isn’t \*\*Curtis \*\*in 8th grade? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/24 "2009-10-24T04:09:07Z")
Is he? Maybe he’ll grow out of it then. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/25 "2009-10-24T04:10:41Z")
> [@Curtis LeMay](#): > > I am completely free to think what is sin and what is not. > > Also while it was a human (Paul) who wrote the Corinthians he certainly was inspired by God and not superseded unlike Mosaic Law. Lemme guess, you’re like what, twelve or so and still make sure to sleep with your hands outside the covers, right? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/26 "2009-10-24T04:28:07Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The commonly used Greek term for homosexuals was _paiderasste_, but instead the Greek text uses the term _arsenokoitai_, which is unknown to modern scholars and may have nothing at all to do with sexuality. It doesn’t. It means Major League Baseball Designated Hitter. Explains a lot, doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/27 "2009-10-24T04:39:39Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > …the Greek text uses the term _arsenokoitai_, which is unknown to modern scholars and may have nothing at all to do with sexuality. Or, perhaps, the term refers to a specific, unfathomably perverted sexual position which has since been lost to the mists of time. Kinda like Greek Fire. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/28 "2009-10-24T04:43:33Z")
> [@](#): > > It doesn’t. It means Major League Baseball Designated Hitter. > > Explains a lot, doesn’t it? I \*\*KNEW \*\*it! ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/29 "2009-10-24T04:56:34Z")
> [@Talon\_Karrde](#): > > I love the first sentence on the Dolly Parton page: “Dolly’s new album called Backwoods Barbie contains the song “Jesus and Gravity”, along with songs about adultery, drinking, carousing, breaking your martial vows and more of the like. She also got her bellybutton pierced.” Missed this somehow earlier. Gotta love Dolly, partially because of those exact reasons! She’s a sweetie and a hoot! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/30 "2009-10-24T07:35:15Z")
Asked about her wardrobe expenses, she says “Honey, you have no idea how much money it costs to look this cheap!” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/31 "2009-10-24T12:13:16Z")
**Curtis** : If you really want to have some fun with them, you can point out that they’re probably not using the original KJV themselves! [Check the wiki for an explanation. 😃](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version) ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/32 "2009-10-24T12:32:49Z")
> [@SmartAleq](#): > > Lemme guess, you’re like what, twelve or so and still make sure to sleep with your hands outside the covers, right? Thirteen I believe. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/33 "2009-10-24T13:02:15Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Thirteen I believe. Yip. He voted in the age poll, and voted 13 or under. He felt the need to specify that he was following the rules, as the board doesn’t allow you to post if you are under 13. So It’s gonna be hard for me to forget that this guy as the youngest Doper. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/34 "2009-10-24T13:20:40Z")
I’ll give him some slack. Lots of kids go through a Jesus freak stage (I didn’t, but my brother did, which is why I turned out to be atheist…he and his crazy “rules” made me start questioning something I’d never questioned before). ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/35 "2009-10-24T15:03:44Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > I’ll give him some slack. Lots of kids go through a Jesus freak stage (I didn’t, but my brother did, which is why I turned out to be atheist…he and his crazy “rules” made me start questioning something I’d never questioned before). I am not a Jesus Freak! I am just a Christian who’s trying to follow what I believe is truth and you know what, the vast majority of conservative and Evangelical Christians agree with the idea that homosexuality is a sin. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/36 "2009-10-24T15:06:12Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Did I say otherwise? People are free to believe whatever crazy shit they want, it makes no never mind to me. I just thought it was funny that you were acting as if you were oh so higher and mightier than the OP group. You’re not. Let’s see some things that are different: 1. I do not think the Roman Catholic Church is the “Whore of Babylon” and I don’t think all Catholics are automatically damned, I think there are many, many Catholics who are saved. 2. As noted above I am not as puritanical as this church and approve of among other things (mildly) revealing clothing, movies, television, alcohol, and tobacco use. 3. I do not think Christians are automatically wrong or damned because of their denomination; it all depends on their PERSONAL belief. 4. This church if given the chance will establish a theocracy in the USA with only Christian theology taught in public schools, all alcohol banned (even for religious use!),a nd so on. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/37 "2009-10-24T16:25:15Z")
> [@Curtis LeMay](#): > > I’m not saying you shouldn’t do any good works, but you must have faith first and foremost. Also homosexuality is condemned in the New Testament So is eating pork and shrimp, mixing fibers, having a glass of milk with your pastrami sandwich, and working and playing from Friday dusk to Saturday dusk. Somehow it’s OK to sell pork hot dogs at Friday night football games while wearing cotton and polyester shirts and handle a ball made of pig skin. I think hating fags makes it all OK though. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/38 "2009-10-24T16:30:57Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > So is eating pork and shrimp, mixing fibers, having a glass of milk with your pastrami sandwich, and working and playing from Friday dusk to Saturday dusk. Somehow it’s OK to sell pork hot dogs at Friday night football games while wearing cotton and polyester shirts and handle a ball made of pig skin. I think hating fags makes it all OK though. No, those are all in the Old Testament (Leviticus). Again, though, the argument that there’s anything about homosexuality in the NT is on very shaky ground, as noted above. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/39 "2009-10-24T16:31:00Z")
> [@Curtis LeMay](#): > > Also while it was a human (Paul) who wrote the Corinthians he certainly was inspired by God and not superseded unlike Mosaic Law. Certainly, no doubt about it, he said so himself. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908/40 "2009-10-24T16:41:53Z")
> [@Curtis LeMay](#): > > I’m not saying you shouldn’t do any good works, but you must have faith first and foremost. Also homosexuality is condemned in the New Testament: > > 1 Corinithians 6:9-10 (NIV); > > This does not mean however that I hate homosexuals, I merely believe it to be a sin. Jebus hates drunks and swindlers? I’m fucked then. > [@BigT](#): > > Yip. He voted in the age poll, and voted 13 or under. He felt the need to specify that he was following the rules, as the board doesn’t allow you to post if you are under 13. > > So It’s gonna be hard for me to forget that this guy as the youngest Doper. Right, I always think of him as the kiddo. I’m not saying I’m going to dismiss everything he says summarily because he’s an 8th grader, but I do like to keep in mind that all of my ideas were not fully fleshed out when I was in junior high school, and neither were yours. And by “yours,” I’m referring to everyone. Hell, I’m working on them now. Now then, **Curtis** , I’m still trying to figure out how your interpretation of what Christianity should be is any better than theirs. You’re against homosexuality, and for women wearing pants. They’re for ladies wearing skirts, and against improper music. They don’t agree with you, you don’t agree with them. Why’s your side better? Yes, you can use notes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-amazing-grace-baptist-church/514908.md?page=3)