# I pit America **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 6, 2024, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759 "2024-11-06T05:57:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/224 "2024-11-08T15:07:08Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > I for one welcome our new Orange Shitbag worshipping overlords! I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/225 "2024-11-08T17:13:44Z")
They don’t have to cancel all of the elections, just enough to take power. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/226 "2024-11-08T17:15:35Z")
Or just declare that they won the vote by 95%. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/227 "2024-11-08T20:19:02Z")
# Open Letter: America, We’re breaking up with you. [The Chaser](https://chaser.com.au/opinion/letter-america-were-breaking-up-with-you/) _We are so sorry to do this but you have had one too many chances,_ _We know you’re trying your best but we’ve been very clear about our concerns and boundaries and with this latest presidential election we just don’t think we can see each other anymore._ _We understand your reasons for the choice you made and we know you think that you’re doing the right thing but it feels like you really haven’t listened to us. We told you Trump made us uncomfortable and we were really concerned that he kept ending up in court for fraud, for trying to cheat the courts and he did visit Epstein’s island seven different times!_ _We know you work hard to bring a lot to this relationship, we love Netflix and Hollywood and we promise to be really fair during California’s custody hearing. But we can’t keep going like this, no matter how hard it is. Your larger than life outrageous personality has just gotten a bit too much going from ‘loveable’ to ‘terrifying’._ _You spy on all of us, you never pay your debts, whenever you have an idea about something you just expect us to go along with it no matter what. It’s always just take, take, take; especially when it comes to oil._ _You are constantly trying to force your way in to meddle with other countries’ problems but you never look intrinsically at your own._ _We thought we could change you but we were just lying to ourselves because you make it seem like you might be redeemable whenever you want something. It’s such a toxic cycle and you have this self indulgent meltdown every four years. You have more guns than people, that’s really weird!_ _We’ll miss you, we really will but we don’t like you you’re becoming. The social media tantrums, the school shootings, giving money and weapons to your friends who are doing the wrong thing, and you still haven’t apologised for the last time you elected trump. Whenever we try to call you out on anything you just say it’s a conspiracy against you and it’s “Fake news”._ _Now with Trump it just feels like you hit a point of no return. We get your education system is bad but also it’s clear you just don’t learn._ _Goodbye. (Please don’t assassinate us for saying this)._ _Sincerely,_ _ **The Rest of the World** _ ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/228 "2024-11-08T20:23:48Z")
Fine. But we’re keeping the fucking dog. 😉 [Truth hurts. That’s pretty well written…] ---
**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/229 "2024-11-08T21:02:24Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > I just don’t know how any self-respecting person of Hispanic descent could vote for trump after that rally at MSG. Oh, _you_ may differentiate between “us” legal immigrants and “them” not legal immigrants, but I will assure you that the trumpists make no such distinctions. My advice to you is to make copies of your paperwork and carry one with you and keep the others with family and a trusted party, an attorney perhaps Otherwise, you may find yourself starring in your own personal remake of “Born in East LA”. Or sharing the fate of hundreds of thousand American citizens in another real-life [Mexican Repatriation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation). ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/230 "2024-11-08T21:08:33Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Oh, _you_ may differentiate between “us” legal immigrants and “them” not legal immigrants, but I will assure you that the trumpists make no such distinctions. My advice to you is to make copies of your paperwork and carry one with you and keep the others with family and a trusted party, an attorney perhaps The Trumpists are already talking about a “turbocharged denaturalization process”, so those papers likely won’t help once they are stripped of their citizenship for being brown. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/231 "2024-11-08T21:11:48Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The Trumpists are already talking about a “turbocharged denaturalization process”, They’re gonna have to appoint a couple thousand new judges to clear the backlog in the immigration courts. Or is this one of those nebulous scenarios where Trump declares “I’m the president and I can do whatever I want” and the entire legal system and bureaucracy just shrugs and goes along with it? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/232 "2024-11-08T21:13:20Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > They’re gonna have to appoint a couple thousand new judges to clear the backlog in the immigration courts. No, they can just throw anyone they decide is an immigrant over the border, or shoot them on the spot. No need for judges, just bullets. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/233 "2024-11-08T21:14:41Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > No, they can just throw anyone they decide is an immigrant over the border And when a judge orders them to stay all deportation proceedings until the defendants have had due process? Then what? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/234 "2024-11-08T21:20:11Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > And when a judge orders them to stay all deportation proceedings until the defendants have had due process? Then what? They’ll be overridden by one of Trump’s judges, or just ignored. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/235 "2024-11-08T21:21:36Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > They’ll be overridden by one of Trump’s judges And when it gets to the Supreme Court and they rule against Trump just like they did before? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/236 "2024-11-08T21:22:06Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > And when it gets to the Supreme Court and they rule against Trump just like they did before? They won’t, the race war is important to them. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/237 "2024-11-08T21:29:13Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > They won’t, the race war is important to them. Then explain these. [https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-rejects-republican-bid-defend-trump-immigration-rule-2023-01-09/](https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-rejects-republican-bid-defend-trump-immigration-rule-2023-01-09/) > **[Supreme Court rules Biden administration properly ended Trump-era 'Remain in...](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/supreme-court-rules-biden-administration-properly-ended-trump-era-remain-in-mexico-program)** > > The Supreme Court has ruled that the Biden administration properly ended a Trump-era policy forcing some U.S. asylum-seekers to wait in Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/238 "2024-11-08T21:30:51Z")
What does that matter? Biden was in office. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/239 "2024-11-08T21:33:05Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > What does that matter? What does it matter that I just showed that the Supreme Court would and has done the exact opposite of what your doomsday fantasy says? You tell me. > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Biden was in office. > **[Post-election lawsuits related to the 2020 U.S. presidential election](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_U.S._presidential_election)** > > After the 2020 United States presidential election, the campaign for incumbent President Donald Trump and others filed 62 lawsuits contesting election processes, vote counting, and the vote certification process in 9 states (including Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin) and the District of Columbia. > Nearly all the suits were dismissed or dropped for lack of evidence or lack of standing, including 30 lawsuits that were dismissed by the judge after a hearing on th... ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/240 "2024-11-08T21:46:39Z")
But what exactly would it look like to “take power” over elections, when the states control elections? California (for example) will hold elections on schedule. How will Dump cancel California’s elections without sending in armed troops? If that starts, it’s the end of the United States. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/241 "2024-11-08T21:50:40Z")
Then a question that I always wonder in these situations: If I asked you how to live the rest of my life based on this knowledge, and you “knew” that I’d do exactly whatever you said (my Trumpian god), what would you tell me to do? Assume I won’t take any evasion as an answer and that you truly had my best interests at heart. > [@penultima\_thule](#): > > you still haven’t apologised for the last time you elected trump. (Quoting The Chaser) This annoys me more than I thought it should. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/242 "2024-11-09T13:11:51Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > and Both can go Fuck Right Off. What’d I do? Other than tell that 88 guy to fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/243 "2024-11-09T13:23:44Z")
Okay. I totally LOL’d at that one. Using a weighted moving average on a chart of 'Fascist Statements, Policies, Tendencies, and Actions During Trump I" would cause a chart-breaking upward spike in the trend line somewhere in the first part of January 2021. Full stop. IMHO, the idea that the trend line is smooth and not alarmingly steep from Jan 2017 through the end of Jan 2021 seems … um … to ignore the insurrectionist elephant in the room. And to pick a random date … the coup plot began in November of 2020. It was anything but spontaneous and desperate. It was the very definition of _malice aforethought_. [I’m getting worse about mixing metaphors. I can’t help it] Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how _did_ you like the play? The past (Trump I) should _not_ be viewed as prologue. That’s sane, rational, conventional world thinking. It no longer applies. I really don’t have any idea what Trump II will look like, but – from The Who’s “Tommy” (“1921”), "I [have] no reason to be over optimistic.] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759.md?page=13)