# I pit America

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 6, 2024, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759 "2024-11-06T05:57:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/244 "2024-11-09T15:21:50Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> What’d I do? Other than tell that 88 guy to fuck off.

I initially meant to the “88” post, but somehow your quote was in the qute box.  
W/i the time limit, I corrected the mistake but somehow you were still credited.  
It was an error which I thought I had fixed.

Please accept my apology for confusing you with “Herr Kettenkrad”.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/245 "2024-11-09T15:27:28Z")

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No worries. I piss off a lot of people here and in my life, it’s hard for me to remember who I’ve offended. Thanks for the quick response.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/246 "2024-11-09T16:09:51Z")

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Oh god. I came across this today, and between the ascendance of the crazy right and the acceleration of the climate crisis, it was a gut punch.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-b0HSW3CN9E/maxresdefault.jpg "I SEE FIRE - The Hobbit | Low Bass Singer Cover | Geoff Castellucci") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b0HSW3CN9E)

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/247 "2024-11-09T23:17:38Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> the coup plot began in November of 2020. It was anything but spontaneous and desperate. It was the very definition of _malice aforethought_.

And the slow moving coup worked. They had four years to convince people that the election was stolen from Trump and he should be put back in office. I’m actually surprised that he hasn’t said that winning this election absolutely proves he won the last one.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/248 "2024-11-09T23:19:24Z")

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… _Yet._

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/249 "2024-11-09T23:25:08Z")

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_Yet_ is to _things Trump hasn’t done_ as _in bed_ is to _fortune cookies_.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/250 "2024-11-10T00:56:56Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> I’m actually surprised that he hasn’t said that winning this election absolutely proves he won the last one.

[Does this count?](https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/trump-tells-supporters-he-shouldnt-have-left-the-white-house) (The link goes to _The Straits Times_.)

> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> _Yet_ is to _things Trump hasn’t done_ as _in bed_ is to _fortune cookies_.

You’re a fucking genius! That’s an awesome comparison. But, of course, the sad thing is it’s true.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/251 "2024-11-10T01:19:58Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> > [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> > I’m actually surprised that he hasn’t said that winning this election absolutely proves he won the last one.
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> [Does this count?](https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/trump-tells-supporters-he-shouldnt-have-left-the-white-house) (The link goes to _The Straits Times_.)

Nah, that was before he won. He’s probably saving it for his inaugural address of his grievances.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/252 "2024-11-10T03:22:55Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> Nah, that was before he won. He’s probably saving it for his inaugural address of his grievances.

Good grief. I really am not looking forward to that.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/253 "2024-11-10T15:15:00Z")

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I plan to spend 20 January 2025 under my covers.

Apologies if it’s been mentioned before and I missed it, but I really need to include the media — not just Faux _et.al._ — in the pitting. I know that bad news sells papers and gets viewers/clicks, but MHO the incessant focus on inflation, crime and other “calamities” created a miasma of fear (I saw one study that said the US population as a whole were more fearful than they’d been in decades). It’s been shown time and again that frightened people make bad decisions, and the US — not just “simple farmers, people of the land …” — have made one that will do the country, and the world, incalcuable harm in the years to come.

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**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/254 "2024-11-10T15:21:43Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> I plan to spend 20 January 2025 under my covers.
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> Apologies if it’s been mentioned before and I missed it, but I really need to include the media — not just Faux _et.al._ — in the pitting. I know that bad news sells papers and gets viewers/clicks, but MHO the incessant focus on inflation, crime and other “calamities” created a miasma of fear (I saw one study that said the US population as a whole were more fearful than they’d been in decades). It’s been shown time and again that frightened people make bad decisions, and the US — not just “simple farmers, people of the land …” - have made one that will do the country, and the world, incalculable harm in the years to come.

This times 1000. Fear is their sustenance.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/255 "2024-11-10T16:30:35Z")

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No idea wherelse to post this - probably posted elsewhere, hopefully not Cafe Society (too political, no?)

SNL cast thinks Trump’s ok now

> **['Saturday Night Live' to Trump: 'We've been with you all along'](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/saturday-night-live-trump-weve-053008220.html)**
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> The first “Saturday Night Live" since Donald Trump's election victory began with the most somber of tones as a group of plainly dressed cast members, primarily women and minorities, described their new reality.

yikes - a caving in I’d rather not see.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/256 "2024-11-10T16:46:38Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> yikes - a caving in I’d rather not see.

[Or is it satire?](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/snl-cast-praises-trump-sarcastic-050000442.html) (The link goes to Yahoo.)

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/257 "2024-11-10T16:53:27Z")

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Ha! Well, there’s some egg on my face.  
Ultimately, though, an _ok_ egg on my face. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/258 "2024-11-10T18:55:23Z")

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Even as satire, it made me a little sick.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/259 "2024-11-10T19:41:43Z")

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Probably from thinking about the number of people for whom it’s not satire.

The sheer quantity of people who know that Trump is abjectly unfit to be president but who supported him regaining the office because (they think) it would benefit him is what turns my stomach.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/260 "2024-11-11T09:50:52Z")

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And they are not worried about the deportations, they are just going to put black people in as slaves. Or more like forced labor after being imprisoned.

Thats why they want to give the police immunity, they want to either kill black people or imprison us into forced labor.

That’s why they are not talking about deporting black people, but they hate latinos as well and want to deport all of them.

The want to put black people back in their place in their view and have us be their slaves again. This shit goes really deep.

And lots of black people voted for Trump or just did not vote.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/261 "2024-11-11T12:18:47Z")

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Don’t waste eggs. Haven’t you heard how much they cost? /s

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/262 "2024-11-11T13:39:10Z")

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Hm.

I have long figured that “MAGA” meant a return to the 1950’s – to the era of Jim Crow and before the Civil Rights Act.

Silly me.

They want to take the US back to the **18** 50’s – to the era before Emancipation.

@split_p_j I stand corrected.

[That’s only about 46% tongue-in-cheek, sadly]

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/263 "2024-11-11T15:07:46Z")

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MAGA is full of defenders of the Confederacy, and regularly makes noises about how slavery was good and even wanting to reinstitute it. So I think it’s a perfectly defensible position to take that they are pro-slavery.

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