# I pit Android so hard **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 9, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297 "2016-12-09T18:59:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297/21 "2016-12-12T20:38:17Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Also, why don’t you get an unlimited plan? According to Sprint Paul (who used to be Verizon Paul), Verizon doesn’t have unlimited data plans. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297/22 "2016-12-12T20:45:08Z")
> [@Karen\_Lingel](#): > > Thank you, SeaDragon, for the helpful advice. Alas, the only thing I get for Settings -\> System Update is “Install now” or “Install later”. > > (Oh gawd it’s trying to install Marshmallow now…) > [@cochrane](#): > > That’s all I have on my LG phone. I WISH it would install Marshmallow, but unfortunately LG has apparently decided my budget model isn’t worthy of Marshmallow and I have to settle for Lollipop instead. My LG doesn’t even have the ‘Install Now’ or ‘Install Later’ options. And I also am apparently stuck with Lollipop as it says there aren’t any updates for my phone. Mine’s an LG G Vista (VS880PP2). ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297/23 "2016-12-13T00:43:03Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > According to Sprint Paul (who used to be Verizon Paul), Verizon doesn’t have unlimited data plans. I don’t mean from Verizon, necessarily. There are providers such as Straight Talk and Metro PCS that will let you keep your phone and your number. And they use the same networks as Verizon and AT&T. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297/24 "2016-12-13T15:26:23Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > My LG doesn’t even have the ‘Install Now’ or ‘Install Later’ options. And I also am apparently stuck with Lollipop as it says there aren’t any updates for my phone. Mine’s an LG G Vista (VS880PP2). Updates are carrier dependent. If you have an older or less premium model phone, carriers will often stop supporting the software after they’ve had the phone in their coffers for a year or more. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297/25 "2016-12-13T15:36:08Z")
> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > Updates are carrier dependent. If you have an older or less premium model phone, carriers will often stop supporting the software after they’ve had the phone in their coffers for a year or more. Sometime the phone’s hardware is incapable of handling the updates. Been there, done that, with a Google Nexus phone, no less. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297/26 "2016-12-13T17:05:09Z")
> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > Updates are carrier dependent. If you have an older or less premium model phone, carriers will often stop supporting the software after they’ve had the phone in their coffers for a year or more. It’s Verizon no-contract and the above may explain why my last update was last December. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297/27 "2016-12-13T17:05:20Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I don’t mean from Verizon, necessarily. There are providers such as Straight Talk and Metro PCS that will let you keep your phone and your number. And they use the same networks as Verizon and AT&T. I’m betting from context that it’s a plan phone, not an outright purchase. So switching networks is probably not an alternative. V’s data is pretty reasonably priced, though. Sounds like the OP is on a minimum plan; bump it up a notch for $10. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297/28 "2016-12-13T17:09:23Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > I’m betting from context that it’s a plan phone, not an outright purchase. So switching networks is probably not an alternative. > > V’s data is pretty reasonably priced, though. Sounds like the OP is on a minimum plan; bump it up a notch for $10. Once her contact is up, she’s free to switch. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297/29 "2016-12-14T13:26:12Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > \ Damn! You’re right! Don’t do that! You could hurt your back when you bend over to put your shoe back on. ::cough cough:: Zipper. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297/30 "2016-12-14T17:07:06Z")
Last night my phone said it was ‘Updating Offline Areas’. WTF does that mean? All I could see by a search was that it has something to do with Google Maps but it didn’t really explain what an ‘offline area’ is. ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297/31 "2016-12-14T18:55:37Z")
Google Maps can have Offline Areas set up where it will save a copy of an area of Google Maps to your phone so you don’t have to be connected to the internet to use the navigation features. It will update the area once a month or so. In order to fully take advantage of the data savings you also have to have your Google Maps set to Wi-Fi only. I believe that is the default if you have Offline Areas turned on. You can tell by seeing if there is a big Wi-Fi Only in the blue bar above the map. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297/32 "2016-12-14T19:20:14Z")
I must have accidentally hit something then as I didn’t deliberately set up any offline areas, probably because, as evidenced above, I didn’t know what they were. Can I get rid of it? ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297/33 "2016-12-14T19:24:55Z")
Click on the three bars in the upper left hand corner, which brings up the drop down menu. Offline Areas can be selected there and then from there you can select update options. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297/34 "2016-12-14T19:26:10Z")
OK, got it. I don’t know how it got there, but I got rid of it. Thanks!! ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297/35 "2016-12-19T02:38:27Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > That’s all I have on my LG phone. I WISH it would install Marshmallow, but unfortunately LG has apparently decided my budget model isn’t worthy of Marshmallow and I have to settle for Lollipop instead. If you have a budget level handset you really don’t want Marshmallow, at least assuming that your phone didn’t come with a 32G or better internal SD card. Even Lollipop is doubtful. My Galaxy S5 – which is nearly ready to be replaced – came with only 16G internal storage. That includes ROM, OS, apps, space for caches, etc.–in short anything that isn’t a media file. And beginning particularly with 5.0, Android really locks down your ability to move apps to the external card. More or less, only media files may be put there. I have Lollipop myself, but it’s only because my handset is rooted and I partitioned the external card to provide more space for apps, that I can get away with it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-android-so-hard/774297.md?page=1)